Originally posted by expert999
what is there to prove from the fossil record? just because a human gets burried on top of a hamster does not mean it evolved from a hamster to a
That's not the point of the fossil record at all--at least not the way I've heard it. You're right, one fossil lying on top of another means
absolutely nothing. But if you find a fossil that has some characteristics of a hamster, and some characteristics of a human, then you can make a
half-way logical assumption that there was chain between the two. If you find one a little further down that has more hamster characteristics than
human, and then another with more human characteristics above the first one, then you have more evidence to a chain.
may I point out. the only thing that you can observe froma fossil is that it died. you cant tell if it had any kids that lived.
No, you can't tell if it had any kids that lived. But you can tell that a female has had children--they do that all the time, even in forensic
analysis--and if there's no baby skeleton nearby then the odds are greater that it lived through adulthood.
the the geologic collumn does not exist anywhere in the world, expect for in the textbooks.
So does all proof against evolution. Well, it doesn't exist in a text
book, but still just in a book.
there is not proof that we evolved from anything lower than us, because we are by far the most intelligent beings on this earth. we dont make
intelligent decisions, but we are the most intelligent.
are you going to tell me that by natural selection, humans came to be. if that is true, that means that my great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great grandpa was either a monkey or something else. like a bacteria in the organic soup.
Yeah, I am. Your ancestor, my ancestor, everyone reading this post. Why is that so unimaginable? Are people just that arrogant to think that we
can't be, in any way, shape or form, related to a different species? What makes us so special? Oh, we can make tools. Whoopie. What do we use
these tools for? Destroying every thing around us, killing off our own species, and wasting our own time fighting about whether or not we evolved
from a lower life form.
It doesn't matter what
we came from, we're here as we are now. If you can prove to me that it matters otherwise, then by all means do so.
No God I'd ever believe in would think less of me because I wasn't created out of some magic pixie dust.
and actually, no scientist has ever created life in the lab. they got some amino acids but along with that they got many toxic chemicals like tar and
other stuff. and they dont tell they excluded oxygen, if there was no oxygen on the earth when life formed it would have has to form either under
ground or in the water. becasue water blocks UV light and UV light breaks down living matter.
cells are alive. yes the are comprised of non living material. but you are missing the point here. cells are alive. you cannot make a cell in the lab
from non living material. like I said before, life begets life.
I never said anything about us creating life. But, for arguments sake, let's say that life can only be borne of life--life begets life. So where
did it start? Is God "alive" as we know it? I think that'd be a very arrogant assumption to limit God to our terms. What exactly is your
definition of life? Maybe then we can figure this mess out.
what are these missing links that you are talking about, because half of the things that people think are missing links, are actually hoax or fraud.
they do it on purpose and make things fit together to make this theory sound like its a fact.
Yes, there are a lot of hoaxes and frauds. To my knowledge, no one has come up with a proven missing link for the Homo Sapien tree. I'm not aware
of anyone hoaxing a link to prove evolution; most people who pull hoaxes want money and/or attention. But, what are the other half that you speak of,
that aren't hoaxes or frauds? Please enlighten me.
my information comes from many things that I read and many articles and many seminars. I do not have a list of sites or references, but if you want
for me to name one reference ill give you Dr Kent Hovind.
many people call him a liar, but the fact actually is, ,they cant take that he can prove them wrong and they cant do anything about it but cry about
it and say bad things about him. I mean if they dont like it, they dont have to believe it, but why would they start bulding websites downplaying
I for one have never heard of him, and I don't have time to look him up right now, so I'm not going to say he's fake or not. Give me a link and
I'll check it out, but I'm not going to try and sift through Google or an ATS search right now.
It's easy to "prove" anyone wrong in one's own mind. It's extremely difficult, especially with a subject like this, to change someone else's
opinion. Who are these people that call him a liar, and in what way is he proving them wrong?
they want their theory brought out and sold. because if their theory is correct, there is no purpose to life. and there really is no right and wrong,
and if there theory is right,..... who cares about what other people think I can be my own god and decide what is right and wrong. and that is a bad,
this is a dangerous way to live, if we are all "gods" we would all just determine what is right from wrong and do what we want. what I am sayign is
that there would be no standard.
That's a very poor outlook to have. You need a God to determine what's right and wrong for you? You need a God to give you a purpose in life?
Well, we have that. We have lots of those. "Gods" are a dime a dozen, and the price is dropping with each passing day the internet allows free
The "standard" is what everyone has chosen to believe. There's no reason for anyone
to follow that standard, other than wanting to be able
to get along in society.
Evolution does not make all of us "Gods," and it does not give us reason to think we are. Evolution theory is merely what happened when a bunch of
people who have studied life saw a pattern of some kind. They used that pattern to form some predictions, and those predictions held true. That's
it. The theory does not have anything to do with Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Big Dave of Planet 3CV, whomever your God may be.
It has been proven that humans are capable of holding many beliefs, even those that may seem otherwise contradictory. Look at the Christian church
for example. A lot of the Christian Conservatives have the mindset of "Love thy neighbor, but only if he's straight/white/capitalist/otherwise like
you." Me personally, I follow the Ten Commandments as best as I can, but my perception of God is a lot different than what's in the Bible.
I personally believe in evolution, and while I have created my own opinion of what's right or wrong, I'm pretty sure it's not that different from
the next guy's. I don't think I'm a God of any kind, and I think I have a lot of purpose in my life.
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