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Originally posted by lost_shaman
If I can make a magnet on a roller roll across the room with only a fraction of the energy it should take , then we are at least talking about using permanent magnets as energy storage devises.
There could be unlimited uses for a device like this in maglev for instance, even if you are losing energy at some point you are saving tons at the same time if you can use PM's to work towards linear motion as I have done.
[edit on 15-12-2005 by lost_shaman]
Originally posted by lost_shaman
If I can make a magnet on a roller roll across the room with only a fraction of the energy it should take , then we are at least talking about using permanent magnets as energy storage devises.
If I start the refrigerator magnet off at an offset angle it will flip causing it to roll forward past all the 4 larger magnets, when they are correctly positioned.
There could be unlimited uses for a device like this in maglev for instance, even if you are losing energy at some point you are saving tons at the same time if you can use PM's to work towards linear motion as I have done.
Originally posted by lost_shaman
If I can make a magnet on a roller roll across the room with only a fraction of the energy it should take , then we are at least talking about using permanent magnets as energy storage devises.
There could be unlimited uses for a device like this in maglev for instance, even if you are losing energy at some point you are saving tons at the same time if you can use PM's to work towards linear motion as I have done.
[edit on 15-12-2005 by lost_shaman]
Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
One question: if this is as easy as you say it is, how come people like the ones who designed and built the maglev haven't thought of it? These are very smart engineers and designers who spend decades working with eletromagnetism, motors and motion. They will have studied the subject in enormous depth, and spend 1000s of hours pouring over designs, prototypes, computer models and real life trains. How come not one of them has ever gone "hey guys look: we only have to line the magnets up right and the train will keep running for ever with no power supply". Two distinct possibilities spring to mind:
1 They are all very dumb and you are very smart
2 It is physically impossible
Hmm.....
Originally posted by postings
First of all, what in sam-hill does "puz" mean? I know I am exposing my ignorance, but I guess that was a trend that passed me by.
Anyway, to answer your fair question, I have a few of my own. What would happen if a doctor all of a sudden started making the claim that flue shots are bad for you? How do you think that would affect her relationship with her close colegues? Do you think they'd want to associate themselves with her after that?
So lets assume that the good doctor cared what her colegues thought of her. Don't you think she'd have second thoughts about it? Not even that though, wouldn't you think she has enough things to do on a daily basis than have to chase down concepts that people would look down on her for anyway?
Isn't there incentive for the establishment to propetuate a culture of anti-quackery in order to maintain it's legitimacy? What I am getting at here is that those engineers aren't just sitting around like we are wondering about stuff. They are working on their tasks at hand. When they get home at night I am not seeing them let their mind wander to idle thoughts about the nature of magnetism because they have been thinking in engineer mode all day. Especially not when the establishment has bashed it's concept about the nature of magnetism into this engineer's head for him. To this engineer, all of this has been tested.
I read about an experiment a while back, and it basically goes like this: Researchers put fish into a fish tank, then took a sheet of glass and separated the two sides with it. The fish were kept to one side. At first the fish would bump up against it, then eventually got used to it. Then after a long while (I don't remember the actual length of time) the researchers removed the glass. The fish still never ventured over to the other side though! That isn't just fish nature, that is human nature too. The glass sheet is the barriers that we have gotten used to, and simply don't exist. You see people who are supposedly debunking this stuff do so without actually building the device they are debunking, yet they still have some sort of credibility.
Okay I have to back up a little now. All of the above COULD be going on. I haven't, and refuse to spend any time on it though since the task at hand is to come up with a working design for a magnet motor. If it doesn't work, obviously I'll eat my words (just as you have said) but if it does, I'll probably be supressed somehow. Here's hoping that isn't the case.
-P
Originally posted by postings
Anyway, to answer your fair question, I have a few of my own. What would happen if a doctor all of a sudden started making the claim that flue shots are bad for you?
What I am getting at here is that those engineers aren't just sitting around like we are wondering about stuff.
I read about an experiment a while back, and it basically goes like this: Researchers put fish into a fish tank, then took a sheet of glass and separated the two sides with it. The fish were kept to one side. At first the fish would bump up against it, then eventually got used to it. Then after a long while (I don't remember the actual length of time) the researchers removed the glass. The fish still never ventured over to the other side though! That isn't just fish nature, that is human nature too.
Originally posted by cmdrpaddy
firstly puz is a smiley, it should have appeared as an image.
The example of the goldfish bowl is nice, the only problem is that the goldfish live inside the bowl, you can't remove the bowl and have the fish still survive, its the same for humans and physical laws.
Originally posted by postings
Assuming there was such a thing as magnetic monopoles (again humor me) would you -- skeptic or not -- be able to design a working magnetic motor (magnet motor in the sense we have been discussing that can run until the magnetic field dies out).
-P
Instead of searching for magnetic monopoles in real space, Yoshinori Tokura of the National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST) in Tsukuba and co-workers turned to momentum space - the mathematical space in which condensed matter physicists construct Fermi surfaces, Brillouin zones and so on. The team was motivated by recent theoretical work which suggested that the behaviour of magnetic monopoles in momentum space is closely related to the anomalous Hall effect.
Originally posted by lost_shaman
FatherLukeDuke,
I was trying to agree with you. A magnet will not create a positive net gain.
[edit on 16-12-2005 by lost_shaman]
Originally posted by doorbell
New to scene...
To me it seems that magnets are a form of natural antennas collecting external power (forces) might be scalar/cosmic/ect.
Originally posted by The Block
Originally posted by doorbell
New to scene...
To me it seems that magnets are a form of natural antennas collecting external power (forces) might be scalar/cosmic/ect.
And these "forces" are? Scalar? Your magnet is an antenna for "single nubers"! Dont quite understand that one. Perhaps you meant solar. Which cosmic force or power is atrracted to a magnet? Which etc. force do you mean? What evidence do you have to support your statement that magnets are "Cosmic" antennas?
What does this have to do with building an un-buildable machine?
Originally posted by doorbell
In other words... photosynthisis for metals.
The process in green plants and certain other organisms by which carbohydrates are synthesized from carbon dioxide and water using light as an energy source. Most forms of photosynthesis release oxygen as a byproduct.
using whatever it might be solar/ scalar(google Tom Beardon's recearch)/ cosmic.
There is some outside force or fuel powering a magnet as it does not burn itself up (loose weight) to create magnatism. I do not know the exact energy transfer here and the someone with the proper physics degree could say the exact term for the power.
improbable, unlikely but NEVER impposible. That to me is why we are here to share data. A magnet itself is a free energy machine just like the sun,
I'm sure the first person who heard that building a photovoltaic cell thought it was a pipe dream.
[edit on 21-12-2005 by doorbell]
What does this have to do with building an un-buildable machine?
Originally posted by Frosty
I know that electric spark into gasoline produces fire, but does that necessarily mean I can build an internal combustion engine based just upon that?
I would like to think not. There is more that goes into building an IC, and I would like to think the same is true with a magnet motor.
You say it is free will and individuality, I will call it lack of education.