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Los Angeles Mexico?!?!?

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posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 04:20 PM
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There are new billboards in L.A. advertising a Spanish-language newscast that are causing quite a fuss. They refer to "Los Angeles, Mexico". Governer Schwarzenneger has asked that these be removed because they are offensive and he believes they are encouraging illigal immigration.

I'm not sure how to post a photo so here is a link to the billboard:

michellemalkin.com...

An article appeared in the L.A. times a few days ago but you must register to view it. I have cut and pasted part of the story:
www.latimes.com...




New billboards advertising a Spanish-language newscast on KRCA-TV Channel 62 were intended as an attention-grabber for its core audience, but instead have struck a nerve with activists seeking to curb illegal immigration.

The billboards show two cable newscasters sitting in front of the downtown skyline, with "Los Angeles, CA" printed above. The "CA" is crossed out, and "Mexico" is stamped alongside in bright red letters. Underneath are the Spanish words, "Tu ciudad. Tu equipo." — Your city. Your team.

"This is almost a poster-board for illegal immigration," said Peter Amundson, a volunteer with the California Republican Assembly. "This is America. We're a land of immigrants — legal immigrants. This is not Mexico. This is the United States."

Amundson, who first saw one of the billboards last week near Irwindale, said that crossing out California and replacing it with Mexico was "a slap in the face to Californians and a pretty blatant one."

The station's owners said the billboards were not intended to provoke controversy but were simply a way to reach out to the region's Spanish-language viewers and tell them there was a place where they could get news and information relevant to their lives.

"All we are saying is, 'It's your city, your town, your team,' " said Andrew Mars, vice president for sales for Liberman Broadcasting. "We are a team that's educating and informing the Spanish-language marketplace."

Executive Vice President Lenard Liberman said Noticias 62 was a popular news program in Los Angeles and noted that people of Mexican descent made up a large portion of the city.

"We tell the story behind L.A.., and we tell the story behind Mexico," he said. "If they find that offensive, I'm sorry. But you just have to drive around L.A. to know that this is a Hispanic city."

Stuart Fischoff, who teaches media psychology at Cal State L.A., said the billboard was like "sticking a finger in your eye" to immigration reformers. "The joke here is, 'We're taking back California,' " Fischoff said. "Underneath the joke is part of the truth."



I believe that this billboard crosses the line. It is highly inappropriate and I think it should be taken down immediatly. As a tax payer in the state of California it sickens me and makes me even more intent on getting the illegals deported ASAP.

Any thoughts?

Jemison




posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
I'm not sure how to post a photo so here is a link to the billboard:

michellemalkin.com...



Hit quote to see BB Code used to paste pictures.

Edit: I believe Michelle Malkin's bandwidth is getting blasted right now (sounds dirty doesn't it?), so I'm hosting a copy for this discussion.

[edit on 30-4-2005 by RANT]



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 04:41 PM
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I felt upset after seeing that



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 04:44 PM
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Thank you for posting the photo of the billboard.

It seriously makes my blood boil every time I see it.


I wonder if Florida will soon have "Miami, Cuba" billboards all over.

Jemison



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 04:47 PM
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Of all the tasteless advertising that seems to be more and more pervasive these days, this is what people get upset about? *shrug*


edit for clarity: I live in Oklahoma.

Steve

[edit on 4/30/0505 by sntx]



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 05:48 PM
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So if you saw a billboard that said "Oklahoma City, Mexico" it wouldn't upset you? I'm sure a "Welcome to Oklahoma City, McVeigh Country" sign in front of a White Supremists doorstep would anger you, and even though I don't live in OK it would certainly make me irate.

I know that it's a different type of 'attack' but California HAS been under attack by illegal immigrants. We are paying BILLIONS of dollars a year to provide medical services to illegals and they are over-crowding our prisons. They sneak across the border to give birth in our hospitals while the tax payers foot the bill for the delivery AND to support the child who is a U.S. citizen but whose parents are not.

Los Angeles happens to be a sanctuary city for illegals which means that police are not allowed to ask them if they are legal citizens or not and they cannot be deported even if they commit a crime. They know this and take advantage of it. They sell social security numbers on the streets and they take advantage of our system.

There are groups of illegals (and legals) that talk about taking California back and making it part of Mexico again. Billboards like this make me wonder if it isn't just 'talk' but actually something that is already in the works.

Jemison



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
So if you saw a billboard that said "Oklahoma City, Mexico" it wouldn't upset you?


No, it wouldn't bother me any more than any other billboard. It certainly wouldn't anger me. If someone wants to waste their own money to put up a nonsensical billboard more power to them. The main thing that bothers me about billboards is that they are unsightly in general.


I'm sure a "Welcome to Oklahoma City, McVeigh Country" sign in front of a White Supremists doorstep would anger you, and even though I don't live in OK it would certainly make me irate.



That wouldn't anger me either. If anything it would sadden me as ignorance tends to do.



I know that it's a different type of 'attack' but California HAS been under attack by illegal immigrants. We are paying BILLIONS of dollars a year to provide medical services to illegals and they are over-crowding our prisons. They sneak across the border to give birth in our hospitals while the tax payers foot the bill for the delivery AND to support the child who is a U.S. citizen but whose parents are not.

Los Angeles happens to be a sanctuary city for illegals which means that police are not allowed to ask them if they are legal citizens or not and they cannot be deported even if they commit a crime. They know this and take advantage of it. They sell social security numbers on the streets and they take advantage of our system.

There are groups of illegals (and legals) that talk about taking California back and making it part of Mexico again. Billboards like this make me wonder if it isn't just 'talk' but actually something that is already in the works.

Jemison


I completely understand why you feel the way you do about illegal immigrants. I think that immigrants should come into the country by legal means or not at all.

Steve



posted on Apr, 30 2005 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison
So if you saw a billboard that said "Oklahoma City, Mexico" it wouldn't upset you? I'm sure a "Welcome to Oklahoma City, McVeigh Country" sign in front of a White Supremists doorstep would anger you, and even though I don't live in OK it would certainly make me irate.

I know that it's a different type of 'attack' but California HAS been under attack by illegal immigrants. We are paying BILLIONS of dollars a year to provide medical services to illegals and they are over-crowding our prisons. They sneak across the border to give birth in our hospitals while the tax payers foot the bill for the delivery AND to support the child who is a U.S. citizen but whose parents are not.

Los Angeles happens to be a sanctuary city for illegals which means that police are not allowed to ask them if they are legal citizens or not and they cannot be deported even if they commit a crime. They know this and take advantage of it. They sell social security numbers on the streets and they take advantage of our system.

There are groups of illegals (and legals) that talk about taking California back and making it part of Mexico again. Billboards like this make me wonder if it isn't just 'talk' but actually something that is already in the works.

Jemison

immigrants who work with fake socials pay taxes back but 90 percent cannot claim tax that was overpaid pro for the goverment who ends up using about 1/5 of what those immigrants pay in taxes to pay for welfare expenses illegals create thats a hell of a bargain why do you think the goverment in cali as of now the cops cant ask you certain things if ur a immigrant or do certain things you blame the immigrants blame yourself for fronting that your concern about something but do nothing about it. i mention no names if you take it personal because i quote you dont i used your words as a example. i am againts illegals because of the crime some of them cause and other issues. if you gave me 10 bucks and i fed and kept u healthy and gave you it only cost me 2 bucks do you think i would stop doing that ? i may not be making sense but neither does alot of the laws that are in place now.

[edit on 30-4-2005 by bigworm]



posted on May, 1 2005 @ 08:13 AM
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sntx, I'm glad you responded. I misunderstood your original post. It isn't that you don't care about things, you are just a lot more even tempered than people like me who tend to get worked up and have tizzy fits quite frequently.






immigrants who work with fake socials pay taxes back but 90 percent cannot claim tax that was overpaid


Actually it is my understanding that most of those that use the fake social security numbers do not use them to obtain jobs. They use them to get a drivers license, collect welfare, etc. There are many places that illegals can get jobs where no SS card is needed and they are paid under the table.

Putting the issue of illegal immigration aside, do you think that referring to Los Angeles as part of Mexico is appropriate?

Jemison



posted on May, 1 2005 @ 09:17 AM
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Good Posting!
How about a boycott of Clearchannel for taking this advertisment in the first place.! Talk about hypocracy!



posted on May, 1 2005 @ 10:15 AM
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How about a boycott of Clearchannel for taking this advertisment in the first place.! Talk about hypocracy!


I went to Clearn Channel's website and read their creed. This is taken directly from that:




We believe we have an obligation for the well-being of the communities in which we live. We further believe the future success of our communities and the industries where we do business is dependent upon the responsibility we feel, the high standards we set and the positive impact our actions have.


I think the billboard is in direct violation of that ... at least if their responsibility is to U.S. citizens.

www.clearchannel.com...

They also have an adobe version of their strict new guidelines for radio broadcast decency. What a joke.

I'm surprised more people aren't angered by this. I think people are at the point where the illegal alien problem is so out of control it seems impossible to do anything to fix it and people are becomming apathetic. Apathy is a dangerous thing.

Jemison



posted on May, 2 2005 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Jemison

I'm surprised more people aren't angered by this. I think people are at the point where the illegal alien problem is so out of control it seems impossible to do anything to fix it and people are becomming apathetic. Apathy is a dangerous thing.
Jemison


Actually I’m very angered by this, just not very surprised. The really sad/scary thing is just imagine if these billboards said something along the lines of “Keep Illegal Mexicans (or anyone for that matter) out of the US” OR “Stop giving up our southern border states while we still can.” What would happen then?

IMO:

1. The ads would be nation wide news by early next day at the latest, organized protests within hours and surely the words ignorant and vigilante would be in the headlines somewhere.
2. By the first few nights most of the billboards would be vandalized if not destroyed completely.
3. Most politicians would choose to be politically correct and be either against the ads or like they have done with the whole boarder issue ignore it completely.
4. The company or persons sponsoring the advertisements would be sued the next day by the ACLU. (This of course is a given)

Sadly in don’t think anything is going to happen anytime soon about the huge illegal immigrant problem the US is having. Not as long as you have over half a million people rushing to vote online for something like American Idol and yet in over a weeks time just a little over 322,000 people have signed the reforms.org petition. I guess something like national security just isn’t as cool as picking the next musical act.



posted on May, 2 2005 @ 10:13 PM
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The statement "Los Angeles is a Hispanic city" is a comment sure to create trouble, and is pretty damn racist if you ask me. Simply because they have a good sized population of Hispanics does not make it a Hispanic city. They seem to forget the large numbers of Koreans, Blacks, Vietnamese, Chinese, Iranian, and Indian people who live there who are also part of the city's make up, who also constitute good sized populations and communities. That would be like calling New York an " Irish City" and making billboards that say "New York, Ireland".

I have seen people lose their careers over off handed remarks regarding blacks, jews, and women, I don't believe these people should be any different. This billboard is an irresponsible advertisement that can only serve to increase distrust and hatred towards the hispanic community, and feed into White Supremecist paranoia propoganda.

If some individuals like Mexico so much, then let em go back there. I certainly do not and would not support it if American troops made a sign that said "Bagdad, USA", and I sure as hell dont appreciate in my country. It would be like Canadians coming over and calling Seattle "Seattle, B.C., Canada, or something like that.

I hope they remove this billboard. Its offensive to anyone of any race who calls America home. Its offensive to the many ethnic communities who are not Hispanic, its offensive to American citizens, and its offensive to Hispanic immigrants who are trying hard to adjust and make America their new home.



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Jemison
There are new billboards in L.A. advertising a Spanish-language newscast that are causing quite a fuss. They refer to "Los Angeles, Mexico". Governer Schwarzenneger has asked that these be removed because they are offensive...


That's interesting. Many of us are asking that he be removed for the same reason.



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 07:00 AM
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they(illuminati) are preparing people for the coming reality............just like the t.v. series survivor,the braindead woman who was starved to death recently and the numerous media/ tv programmings



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 08:31 AM
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That's interesting. Many of us are asking that he be removed for the same reason.


I hope he isn't removed. I think he will do something about illegal immigration, unlike Grey Davis who did everything he could to help the illegals!




they(illuminati) are preparing people for the coming reality............


Are you saying the illuminati are behind the billboard? I find it hard to believe that the illuminati would want the U.S. to become Mexico!!

Jemison



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 05:18 PM
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Jemison, Schwarze-necker is an illegal immigrant. I am an American Indian and we never gave him permission to come over here. His father was a Waffen SS man and he was raised in a Nazi family. He bought off the Jewish lobby with gifts and smooth talk- and now that he has power he shows his true face, which we Natives (remember when he tried to bury us and our 'evil' casinos that we built with our own money for all you guys to get rich in) tried to warn you all about.

Call me prejudiced- but my uncle was a prisoner of the SS and I know what the SS taught their families: to rule. You and me.

He should be recalled.

Skadi wrote:

The statement "Los Angeles is a Hispanic city" is a comment sure to create trouble, and is pretty damn racist if you ask me. Simply because they have a good sized population of Hispanics does not make it a Hispanic city. They seem to forget the large numbers of Koreans, Blacks, Vietnamese, Chinese, Iranian, and Indian people who live there who are also part of the city's make up, who also constitute good sized populations and communities.


Small clarification here. Hispanic is not a race. In fact, it is just the opposite. Hispanic is a culture that incorporates many races. There are blonde hispanics, asian hispanics, arabic hispanics, and yes- hispanics whose roots lie in India. To be hispanic is to speak Spanish, to enjoy the music and food and dance of many nations, to embrace the concept that persons of different colors and cultures can create one community. The idea of multicultural unity in diversity is American for the same reason Los Angeles is American- because it is Spanish.

One can be born Hispanic, or choose to become Hispanic. It is not a matter of race. It is a matter of culture.

[edit on 3-5-2005 by Chakotay]



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Ruins
Actually I’m very angered by this, just not very surprised. The really sad/scary thing is just imagine if these billboards said something along the lines of “Keep Illegal Mexicans (or anyone for that matter) out of the US” OR “Stop giving up our southern border states while we still can.” What would happen then?

IMO:

1. The ads would be nation wide news by early next day at the latest, organized protests within hours and surely the words ignorant and vigilante would be in the headlines somewhere.
2. By the first few nights most of the billboards would be vandalized if not destroyed completely.
3. Most politicians would choose to be politically correct and be either against the ads or like they have done with the whole boarder issue ignore it completely.
4. The company or persons sponsoring the advertisements would be sued the next day by the ACLU. (This of course is a given)

Sadly in don’t think anything is going to happen anytime soon about the huge illegal immigrant problem the US is having. Not as long as you have over half a million people rushing to vote online for something like American Idol and yet in over a weeks time just a little over 322,000 people have signed the reforms.org petition. I guess something like national security just isn’t as cool as picking the next musical act.


I've got good news! It seems that some (though not yet nearly enough) people are finally waking up to the U.S.-Mexico border problem. I just saw on CNN's Lou Dobbs Report a story about this very billboard, and not only was Dobbs disgusted by it, but he showed protests going on in front of the headquarters of the TV station that put the billboard up.

Even better -- there is now another billboard up nearby that says, "Just To Clarify -- You're in Los Angeles, CA



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 05:36 PM
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Jeez, I'm glad that the MinuteMen are moving over to California now, as they wrap up their Arizona stay.

This board is not only encouraging illegal immigration, but what the hell? Where is the marketing behind that? To encourage alot of Americans to get mad and the few that want Mexico to own the west again inspired to pull some revolution?

I just don't get it. =/

-wD



posted on May, 3 2005 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
This board is not only encouraging illegal immigration, but what the hell? Where is the marketing behind that? To encourage alot of Americans to get mad and the few that want Mexico to own the west again inspired to pull some revolution?

I just don't get it. =/


I see it more as a statement of arrogance -- the first thoughts that come to mind when I see the billboard are "We're taking over, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it," or "Look! Americans are so weak, they can't even defend their own country."

Unfortunately, at this point they seem to be right.



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