Originally posted by Delirious
I have one simple question. Why did he refer to every event as happening to "us" or "we"? If he was from the future, he was not one of us. Unless
im mistaken, but I do believe he used us and we.
While lumped with the rest of it that argument holds a little bit of water, I don't think it's a case closed argument. In talking about history with
friends, when America comes up I us "we" for actions America did over 200 years ago. An argument could be made that he identifies with us today and
sees us as his ancestors.
Why do I prescribe to the Church of Christ and not the Church of Trek. Believe it or not, I anticipated this question, especially considering your
second point to me
There are a few reasons that I'll mention, on the surface, but I encourage you to start a thread comparing the church of Titor
to the church of Christ, and I'd be happy to weigh in in more depth.
First, click the "JJ's Story" link in my signature. That's a very shortened tale of 4 years of research before accepting Christ as my savior.
Second, I started out just as evangelical as I am now, but like a few members here, I was an evangelical atheist. It may seem irrelevant at first, but
figure I was going after Bible thumpers, and would research and find arguments against Christianity. As such, I know, generally, where the argument
stands against Christianity and its validity. All of those questions had to be addressed before I would throw my lot in with those religious types
believing in this Jesus guy. Finally, when faced with a possible contradiction or question to which I don't have the answer to, I don't hide from
it, I take it head on because...Well, if I'm wrong about my faith, I don't want to waste my time. To date, Christianity has won out. Yep, that's
right, not one question about Christ's validity hasn't been answered through he Bible, science or even psychology (sorry, Deus, I still think of
that as a pseudo-science) that I've addressed in my mind (a small subset can be seen here on ATS).
Titor did not hold up to such scrutiny. As a result, I do not believe Titor to be either a prophet or a man from the future. Nygdan raised a fantastic
point about Titor that I've noticed happens a lot with Alex Jones, too. I have a rudimentary knowledge of quantum and particle physics
because...Well, it kicks butt. Alex Jones would play off of common misconceptions of quantum physics, string theory, and other popularized though
often misunderstood scientific concepts. Titor does it differently. He addresses (as a grunt) areas where little or no question could be drawn from
his scientific explanation, but claims ignorance on all the issues that would either revolutionize quantum theory or show him to be a fraud. That
fraud to me. He has the scientific mumbo jumbo to pass his theories off as scientifically solid, and leaves blanks where someone in the
know could say, "John...Are you serious? Come on..."
It's a fine con job, though, because he still has this defense of ignorance.
EDIT: Sci-Fi story. Yes, you could find sci fi stories that predict elements of the future. The most terrifying book I have ever read is still 1984.
However, almost all
of it? On top of all the other problems with Titor's claims? With all the evidence weighing in against Titor, I'm less
inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt as you have.
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