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Bigfoot filmed in Manitoba
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hey-- came across this article, seems a couple girls saw another one near Norway House at Paupanekis Point,....they say there are hair samples,
etc....interesting....
www.newswatch50.com...
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www.newswatch50.com...
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Nice little article, I would love to see the pictures they took of the footprints and casts.
My first thought was that perhaps the kids were a little hysterical after the recent news and imagined that they saw something, good to see that there is (apparently) evidence to back the claim.
Any ideas on where to find some pix? The video link near the story is only an unrelated news headlines clip.
My first thought was that perhaps the kids were a little hysterical after the recent news and imagined that they saw something, good to see that there is (apparently) evidence to back the claim.
Any ideas on where to find some pix? The video link near the story is only an unrelated news headlines clip.
That is interesting. I am curious about a couple of things though.
Why did it take 2 weeks for this story to make the press? Or is the physical evidence that was collected unrelated to the childrens sighting?
Also, is the evidence going to be forensically examined?
Perhaps this story was reported elsewhere, and I just haven't seen it.
Oh well, nice article, thanks for sharing that.
Why did it take 2 weeks for this story to make the press? Or is the physical evidence that was collected unrelated to the childrens sighting?
Also, is the evidence going to be forensically examined?
Perhaps this story was reported elsewhere, and I just haven't seen it.
Oh well, nice article, thanks for sharing that.
Originally posted by William One Sac
That is interesting. I am curious about a couple of things though.
Why did it take 2 weeks for this story to make the press? Or is the physical evidence that was collected unrelated to the childrens sighting?
Also, is the evidence going to be forensically examined?
Perhaps this story was reported elsewhere, and I just haven't seen it.
Oh well, nice article, thanks for sharing that.
Pretty interesting read.
To answer your question, probably because it involved children. Perhaps they didnt want to release anything from such a claim.
2- perhaps interest has died down on it.
3-its norway house manitoba, far far away
Heres some information I came across.
Unconfirmed source. Images seem corny to me.
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Track photos.
A second bigfoot sighting has been reported by a young girl, and her play mates in Paupanekis Point, Norway House, Manitoba, which is located on the south end of the same First Nations reserve where ferryman, Bobby Clarke, videotaped a large, dark, bipedal creature walking along the bank of the Nelsen River.
The girls were close to a residential area, which borders the woods, at around 7:30-8:00 pm on May 20, when the encounter occurred. The woods are bordered by knee high grass, which is where the creature was standing in plain view, apparently watching the children play. One of the girls fainted from fright, after seeing "a huge creature." None of the children were hurt, but they are understandably still quite shaken, and afraid to be left alone.
Immediately following the sighting, a search party was assembled to investigate the surrounding area. Footprints were found where the actual sighting occurred, as well as deeper into the woods. Several more expeditions have been conducted since, and have resulted in finding more physical evidence. The size of some of the tracks measure "larger than a man`s size 16 shoe" said one witness, and have a clearly defined outline of the toes. The tracks have been preserved, photographed, and videotaped by Norway House residents.
Hair samples have also been found at several locations, including on the inside edge of one of the footprints, and at another location, clinging to a pine tree where more tracks, and a strong lingering odor was also reported. The odor was described to be a mix between wet dog, and skunk. A witness who has collected some of the hair samples reported, "I thought they would be thick and course and black, but they look kinda longish, half black and half white and (on some) the very bottom looks almost fine and spliced up like a fine razor split the hairs into many on one single strand."
The physical evidence collected following the most recent sighting raises some interesting questions. Where as the Nelson River tracks measured 20 inches in length, with a six foot stride, in Paupanekis Point, tracks measuring 13 inches in length, as well as 20 inches have been found. Also, hair samples given to the ACA`s expedition team were dark in color, according to Cherie Curry, a member of the team, yet the hair samples found after the second sighting are half black, and half white.
Some N.H. residents have theorized that the smaller prints may belong to a juvenile, and that it has possibly wandered away from an adult/parent, which might explain the ongoing incidents surrounding Norway House, including the frequent howls coming from wooded areas close to homes. Bobby Clarke also reported hearing strange howls on several occasions preceding his sighting.
Although details are still sketchy, a third encounter in which the creature is said to have returned to the same area as the second sighting, moving large rocks in it`s path has been reported. I`ll update if/when I learn more. I am also waiting for more photographs of tracks, and hair samples, which I`ll photograph, and post once they arrive.
This rash of sightings is not the first in this area. In 1976, multiple sightings, spread over a length of time, were reported in Poplar River, 76 miles south of Norway House. The following is the report submitted to the Vancouver Lower Mainland Division of the RCMP, following a police investigation.
Norway House RCMP Report
Unconfirmed source. Images seem corny to me.
BEWARE LONG POST !
Track photos.
A second bigfoot sighting has been reported by a young girl, and her play mates in Paupanekis Point, Norway House, Manitoba, which is located on the south end of the same First Nations reserve where ferryman, Bobby Clarke, videotaped a large, dark, bipedal creature walking along the bank of the Nelsen River.
The girls were close to a residential area, which borders the woods, at around 7:30-8:00 pm on May 20, when the encounter occurred. The woods are bordered by knee high grass, which is where the creature was standing in plain view, apparently watching the children play. One of the girls fainted from fright, after seeing "a huge creature." None of the children were hurt, but they are understandably still quite shaken, and afraid to be left alone.
Immediately following the sighting, a search party was assembled to investigate the surrounding area. Footprints were found where the actual sighting occurred, as well as deeper into the woods. Several more expeditions have been conducted since, and have resulted in finding more physical evidence. The size of some of the tracks measure "larger than a man`s size 16 shoe" said one witness, and have a clearly defined outline of the toes. The tracks have been preserved, photographed, and videotaped by Norway House residents.
Hair samples have also been found at several locations, including on the inside edge of one of the footprints, and at another location, clinging to a pine tree where more tracks, and a strong lingering odor was also reported. The odor was described to be a mix between wet dog, and skunk. A witness who has collected some of the hair samples reported, "I thought they would be thick and course and black, but they look kinda longish, half black and half white and (on some) the very bottom looks almost fine and spliced up like a fine razor split the hairs into many on one single strand."
The physical evidence collected following the most recent sighting raises some interesting questions. Where as the Nelson River tracks measured 20 inches in length, with a six foot stride, in Paupanekis Point, tracks measuring 13 inches in length, as well as 20 inches have been found. Also, hair samples given to the ACA`s expedition team were dark in color, according to Cherie Curry, a member of the team, yet the hair samples found after the second sighting are half black, and half white.
Some N.H. residents have theorized that the smaller prints may belong to a juvenile, and that it has possibly wandered away from an adult/parent, which might explain the ongoing incidents surrounding Norway House, including the frequent howls coming from wooded areas close to homes. Bobby Clarke also reported hearing strange howls on several occasions preceding his sighting.
Although details are still sketchy, a third encounter in which the creature is said to have returned to the same area as the second sighting, moving large rocks in it`s path has been reported. I`ll update if/when I learn more. I am also waiting for more photographs of tracks, and hair samples, which I`ll photograph, and post once they arrive.
This rash of sightings is not the first in this area. In 1976, multiple sightings, spread over a length of time, were reported in Poplar River, 76 miles south of Norway House. The following is the report submitted to the Vancouver Lower Mainland Division of the RCMP, following a police investigation.
Norway House RCMP Report
"Norway House to Vancouver Lower Mainland Division, attention Sergeant Doane.
It was reported to our office on the 26 July 76 by the chief of the Poplar River Indian Band that many of his people have sighted on the reserve many times a large hairy animal that walks on two legs. Poplar River is located approx. 76 miles to the south of Norway House. An investigation was conducted and the results are as follows:Several people were interviewed and they all stated that the animal was approximately seven to eight feet tall and was very broad at the shoulders. It had the general body structure of a man only many times larger. A foot cast was taken of the foot impression that was left behind by the so-called monster and is held at this detachment. It measures 16 inches by five inches, and has only three toes. It's fur is a glossy gray color and it has white hair on it's head. They stated that it was very powerfully built and one man reported that he saw it swimming. To date there have been no further reports of sightings in our area. It should be noted that this so-called monster seemed very inquisitive towards the people and would come around the houses on the settlement and look in doors and windows."- Excerpt from the 1976 RCMP Report, posted on the BFRO website.
The May 20,05 Paupanekis Point sighting follows a report, and video footage, taken of a large dark creature walking along the Nelson River, in Norway House, Manitoba on April 16, 05 by ferryman, Bobby Clarke. After the videotape was aired on A Current Affair on May 4,05, ACA sent an expedition led by Dr.Franklin Ruehl, to Norway House to look for evidence. Also on the expedition team was ACA producer Brett Hudson, and artist, singer, author Cherie Curry.
Transcript of A Current Affair`s Bigfoot Expedition Press Conference
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BRETT HUDSON: Are we ready? You guys rolling?
QUESTION: Can we get everybody's name?
BRETT HUDSON: You shall. I'm Brett Hudson. I'm a field producer for A
Current Affair.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Dr. Franklin Dr. Franklin R. Ruehl, Ph.D.,
anomalist and host of the show Mysteries From Beyond The Other Dominion.
CHERIE CURRIE: And I'm Cherie Currie. I'm a chainsaw wood carver and a
mom. Ha ha ha!
BRETT HUDSON: So here's basically how it started. I got a call from A
Current Affair to go up to a Bigfoot sighting up in Northern Manitoba. I
screamed and kicked and saying are you out of your mind? But I went up
anyway and in going up there and securing the tape for A Current Affair, an
exclusive tape for A Current Affair, I started to do my own little research
with some of the people in the community up there and I found it to be very
interesting that I went up a nonbeliever and I am back believing that
whatever this is-- you can call it Bigfoot, you can call it Sasquatch--
what we have found on our expedition is quite amazing. So we went back up
with Dr.Ruehl and Cherie Currie, got two Cree Indian guides, Brian and
Elvis, and we went back into the forest about three hours. Hiked back in
where the Bigfoot tape that Bobby Clark shot. well, the area where the
Bigfoot was, which was across the Nelson River. We went back up there,
went back into the forest and found a number of interesting things that I'm
going to pass over to the Doctor, and he will fill you in on.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Yeah, when I said, when I first got the call
at 9:00 am in the morning I told the producer, "No way." I said, "I'll
think about it over breakfast." But he convinced me that this could lead
to fame and fortune and a chance to actually find the creature, so I
relented because I'm an inveterate wimp, unlike my two companions here.
Now, on one broadcast I said it looked barren on the map, but I was really
impressed as we took the shuttle craft from Winnipeg up to Norway House.
To the left, to the right, to the north, to the east, to the south. To
every. in every direction. Nothing but forest land. There was enough room
there for a hundred Bigfoot creatures to be hidden. No doubt about it.
That really impressed me. Then as we got into the brush, we realized how
difficult it would be to track one of these creatures. Every step of the
way. Bramble bushes with thorns. Mud holes. Branches of all sizes. You
could have tripped ten different times going just a couple of feet. So
it's very dangerous, very difficult to pursue a creature if he indeed does
exist there. Now I came up as a believer.
My belief has been strengthened by what we found in just such a short time.
To begin with, here are the photos, stills taken from Bobby Clark's video.
It appears to be some sort of a creature; not a bear, not a man. And some
skeptics say, well it's too blurry to distinguish what that creature could
possibly be. Well, I point out, when you have a video that's too sharp,
they, the skeptics say it's fabricated. This seems to be a legitimate film
footage of a creature that could be Bigfoot. The man who took it, Bobby
Clark, hesitated to come forth with this for several days. He was so
shocked by what he had seen. But I believe he's sincere. I've met him. I
don't believe he's fabricating anything. This is some sort of creature,
most likely evidence of Bigfoot in existence up there. We were truly in
Bigfoot country.
Now, we found one field that we think is a feasting field, where you could
have even a family of Bigfoots. It had dozens of bones and literally
thousands of feathers such as this, what appears to be an eagle's wing with
the bone attached. A femur of a deer. And the same up here. We also found
the skull of a deer. So the idea is that this could be an area where
Bigfoot or his family feast. And importantly, you see that the bone has
the feathers on from the eagle. Normally bears and other predators don't
pluck birds before they eat them. This would indicate we're dealing with
some sort of primate. A more intelligent creature, i.e. a possible Bigfoot
here.
BRETT HUDSON: Bone marrow.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Oh, that's right. And here we have a bone
that was apparently from a deer. The marrow's sucked out. So possibly
this creature enjoys feasting on bone marrow of other creatures. And the
question of course arises, what does Bigfoot eat? Well, he was found here
along the shore. At this time, the fish-- this is early spring-- all
congregate near the shore. So he may be a fish eater. Also while we were
in the field one night, we heard a thousand frogs croaking. In fact I did
not believe they were frogs. They sounded, it sounded like an auto
factory. It was so loud. Then suddenly, silence. An eerie silence, as
though some predator, perhaps, had suddenly appeared in the area. Perhaps
Bigfoot enjoys eating amphibians and the frogs realize that. They later
resumed their noise. But it was an eerie moment for us.
Now, we also have a comparison shot. This was a still taken from the Bobby
Clark video encircled the Bigfoot creature. Here, encircled are, are our
hero here, Brett Hudson, and Cherie Curry. Brett stands about 5'10". This
entity is about three and a half to four feet taller. In other words,
Bigfoot could be 9-1/2, 10 feet tall. We're talking about a humungous
creature. And I believe-- I can't say this for certain-- this is the first
time anyone has every showed a comparison shot like this of the creature
and then human beings in the very same spot. So this isn't absolute proof
he exists, but further evidence that Bigfoot may indeed exist on this
planet.
And we also had provided by us, to us, a hair samples. now into five
segments, by one of the locals.
Now I must say, that up there the Cree people treated us magnificently.
Beginning with Chief Ron Evans. Their kindness really helped our expedition
succeed. In addition, I was impressed because I had several of the locals
bring along, up evidence. And it was done in a very professional manner.
Using digital cameras for footprints. This man carefully preserved a hair
sample he had found. We had another team that videotaped their trip to the
island that is just off of the shoreline where he was, uh, videotaped. They
videotaped their excursion and showed themselves measuring the footprints.
Then they brought us back the footprints. They actually cut them out and
put them in boxes. Everyone dedicated to finding the truth about this
creature up there. Everyone did it in a very professional manner for, for
uh, an amateurs. I was going to say, professionals couldn't have done any
better. Now this hair sample is very fragile. It's in about five
segments. We're going to have it analyzed. But may I point out that I did
receive a call from a local who had a hair sample that he had analyzed at
the RCMP forensic lab by one of the deputies who into, into this.
Unfortunately, we had to leave before he could give me the report but the
report said it was indeterminate. Doesn't prove it's a Bigfoot, but it's
of no known creature. So that again indicates we're dealing with an
unknown being, i.e. Bigfoot who may have existed there for centuries. Now
any questions?
BRETT HUDSON: Good. Okay.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Make a statement about Bigfoot. He may be
an example of divergent evolution. Perhaps this creature originated, say
in the Himalayas where we have legends of the Yeti. Crossed the land
barrier and in various sectors of the Northwest evolved in different ways.
We could have some Bigfoot creatures who are vegetarians and others who are
carnivores and others omnivores. Even in the same area their eating habits
may differ. Also we have such creatures around the word. We have for
example the Mokele Mbembe in Africa, and of course we have El Sisimeti down
in Guatamala. The Yowie down in Australia. The Skunk Ape in Florida and a
host of others. Each may have originated independently in their own
particular ecological niche, and that would account for differences.
They're not all as tall as the Bigfoot here. In fact, the Yowie, for
example, is shorter than a man. Stockier. Moves like an ape. On the
other hand, some are taller. And I'd want to point out it could be an
example of one creature that migrated around the world or several different
creatures that each independently evolved in a particular ecological niche.
And I would want to say this: is it my opinion that if we sent a crew up
there with tranquilizer guns, especially in this area where Bigfoot has
been sighted recently, I think we could catch him. But you'd need a team
perhaps of ten men. I personally would like to see Bigfoot caught alive,
studied for perhaps six months, and then returned to the wild. My two
companions here are totally opposed to that. Brett Hudson, why are you
opposed to that?
BRETT HUDSON: I'm opposed to it for a number of reasons, for the Cree
Indians, the Cree Nation, it's very spiritual to them, whatever this entity
is. And they believe it's good luck. They believe that this came to them
and it's going to bring good luck to their community. I don't think it's
necessary to capture anything. I don't mind shooting it from a distance or
finding evidence that it does exist, but let it live where it lives. It
means something to the Cree Nation and I think it's important that we
preserve that as well. That's why I disagree with the doctor here, but
that's what makes the world go around, isn't it? Disagreement?
CHERIE CURRIE: Actually, I mean, I do for a little bit, from you Brett,
because I would really. I didn't believe in this creature really. I didn't
think it existed. But I am truly a believer now. And I would love to be
able to find this creature and study it, but then no, I definitely believe
this creature needs to be in the wild. It's a very intelligent creature
obviously and I think that I kind of like the mystery of it all, too.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: What she just said is quite true. If we do
indeed capture a Bigfoot. either find a carcass or bring them back alive,
that will end the mystique of Bigfoot. The mystery's over. It's just like
if we actually had definitive evidence of who Jack the Ripper was, then all
the intriguing theories that have been advanced will no longer be of
interest. So that's, that's one problem with bringing him back alive. May
I say this: that one question, one problem is that no matter how many
videotapes you have of him, the skeptics will always say they're fabricated
or some other creature. So I personally believe we have to bring him back,
study him; find out, for example, if he has specially thick fur on his legs
to accommodate him as he goes through that rough brush. What his eating
habits are, etc. I also wanted to say this: a question that skeptics often
point out; why haven't we found a Bigfoot carcass? We know that these
animals die if they exist. Well I point out that there's what's called a
natural chain of predation. There's a body lying in the brush. Larger
predators will go after it. Then you have some of the predatory birds that
will finish it up and then at the last level you'll have predatory
microorganisms so that virtually nothing is left. I point out if you walk
down the street you don't see the dead bodies of birds or squirrels
although we know they're out there and that they do die. And so I think
this is one reason we haven't found a carcass. And that's something
skeptics say, how come we haven't found a carcass?
CHERIE CURRIE: Maybe they bury their own.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And that's another point. Excellent, Cherie
Currie. If they're intelligent creatures, perhaps they drag off any dead
relatives, perhaps bury them or hide them in some way so, so outsiders will
not find them.
QUESTION: Doctor, what were your plans if you came across any of the
creatures either laying or on the loose?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well, I'll tell you. We didn't have a
tranquilizer gun, but we had Cherie Currie, who had her chainsaw just in
case we needed to be defended.
BRETT HUDSON: We had two guides. We had two guides with us, we brought two
Cree Indian guides and they were both packing.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well the first, no, first time the guide was
not packing ay weapon, but this is interesting: he was so frightened that
we really were about to encounter Bigfoot that the next day he and his guy,
his friend Elvis, brought along shotguns. I did not like that. I don't
want this creature killed. I want him brought back alive. But for study.
And I want to say something else; that uh, we joked about Cherie Currie and
we kidded around a lot, but she is one gutsy gal. She's willing to take
any chance. Nothing phased her. I was very happy to have her on and she
is a true woodswoman. She knows the woods. I'm a wimp. She's actually
more qualified than yours truly. And then we have Brett Hudson here, who
the word fear is not in this man's vocabulary. He was also willing to take
any chance. So these comrades were just tremendous.
BRETT HUDSON: When we were back in the area, about three hours in, it's
called Ross Island, the island where it was filmed. When we found this
first footprint, wherever it is, uh, that we measured. actually Cherie
found it. This very first footprint. And I'm measuring it there. The
guide was sitting over there and he. this is a guy who grew up in this
area. He trapped with his father and his grandfather. And this, he knows
this area like the back of his hand and he looked at us and said, "I, I'm
uncomfortable. I'm scared." This, and so, you know, if my guide's
scared, what does that leave me and Cherie? I mean, there was something
about it that was kind of eerie, because that footprint, although it didn't
photograph that well was about two and a half inches down. If you know the
terrain there. there, this marsh area, so there's a lot of. there's a lot
of moss growing up over the marsh that you walk on. If you know that
area, to make that deep of. I mean, I jumped up and down to try to make an
impression and it would just float up because of the moss. So whoever made
that footprint is a very, very heavy animal. Very heavy. That unnerved
our own guides.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Yeah. We're talking about perhaps 800
pounds. I mean we can't be sure but something in the nature of 500, 800
pounds. A very heavy creature.
BRETT HUDSON: Look, I know people are going to watch this and think those
three people up here are nuts. I'm not nuts. I went up there thinking, oh
my god, I finally hit the ultimate story. I'm chasing Bigfoot? Please,
give me a break. You can call it what you want, but there's a very large
animal out there that somebody put on tape, that we had the opportunity to
track and found some I think credible evidence that there is a particular
creature up there that is allowing himself or herself to be seen.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And again, I was so impressed that right
away, right off the bat, we're finding footprints. Fresh footprints. So
uh, it really looks like there's something there. And I got a number of
calls from the locals, including one call from a man who knows a woman down
in an area that's intermediate between Winnipeg and uh, Norway House, who
had seen a Bigfoot in her yard. Actually she had awakened him, and he sort
of scurried off. And she, unfortunately we just couldn't go down there to
interview her. We might get to interview later. But seems that possibly
Bigfoot has recently come out of hibernation, and that's why we're getting
these reports of sightings. And I certainly think that if you were to send
a team, a well equipped team in the next few weeks, you could catch him.
CHERIE CURRIE: One other thing that we did find too is that there were
numerous fresh trees about this big around that had been snapped as if
right. the area which Bigfoot had on the video had gone into the forest. I
mean they were literally just snapped like twigs, just in this one area
near the feeding area. And since I work in wood, this was not done by the
wind. This was done by force.
BRETT HUDSON: And also there, you know you can tell there are a lot of
beaver up there and you can tell the ones that the beaver because they have
teeth marks in it. There were three or four that were just snapped at the
base and Cherie's right, they were about that big. We have video of it.
And it was all leaving from where the Bigfoot was seen up to where this
area was where there are all these feathers and carcasses.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And our guide Brian said that this was not
any human who felled that tree. No grizzly bear. So that leaves possibly
Bigfoot.
QUESTION: Cherie Currie, has this expedition inspired you to immortalize
Bigfoot in wood?
CHERIE CURRIE: I'm definitely going to do that. That's the first thing I'm
going to carve when I open my store, which will be very soon. Yes.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And she did. with her chainsaw, she left my
calling card. "Doctor Ruehl was here," and I'll be eternally appreciative
for that. Thank you very much.
CHERIE CURRIE: You're welcome.
QUESTION: Dr. Ruehl, can I have your autograph?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Of course, but that'll be a dollar.
BRETT HUDSON: Uh oh, it's starting. And before we leave, Dr. Ruehl, has to
give his signature.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Are there no more questions regarding
Bigfoot?
BRETT HUDSON: Sign this.
QUESTION: Are there plans to go back?
BRETT HUDSON: I would love to go back. I would love to go back again and
go back into that area. Because there's so much ground to cover. Dr.
Ruehl's right. When you fly up there, everywhere you look there's forest.
Until you hit Norway House, which is an incredible community built by these
Cree Indians and the chief and it's an amazing place to stay but as soon as
you leave this little area, it's nothing, nothing but forest. I would love
to go back with more people. Not that we didn't have good equipment, but
even more sophisticated equipment.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Including tranquilizer guns.
CHERIE CURRIE: I would love to go and, and stay. I mean, stay at least a
couple of three days in that area through the night, and uh.
BRETT HUDSON: Well you go ahead, I'll call you from the hotel.
CHERIE CURRIE: That's okay.
BRETT HUDSON: 'Cause, you know, I would love to go back with more
sophisticated equipment.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Including a tranquilizer gun.
BRETT HUDSON: I'm not going to let you capture it, Dr. Ruehl. I will free
the Bigfoot. You're not going to do it. And go back and do one more, one
more really more extensive search. Because we just, I think we just were
right on the surface where we were. I don't know if there are any plans,
uh, to send us back, but I would love to do it. I'd love to go back and
give it one more shot.
QUESTION: How about further shows for some of the other creatures that are
out there? Would you guys be interested in perhaps say to Australia.
BRETT HUDSON: Well you know, absolutely. As a matter of fact while we
were up in Norway House there was a sighting in Northern California. Um,
not that I want to spend my life chasing Bigfoot, but there is something
about it that's very intriguing now that I have become a believer and saw
what I actually saw with my own two eyes. And talk to some of the elders of
the Cree Nation who actually, you know there are stories that are passed on
and they're all very similar about this particular animal that when it
comes around it's either good luck or bad luck, and they, the spiritual
aspect for them is pretty amazing. But I, I still think there's a shot.
Somebody's going to get it. somebody's going to get a credible video of it
and, and Dr. Franklin R. Ruehl, Ph.D.'s right. If it's too much in focus
and too good people are going to discount the video and say it's a hoax.
Someone's gonna capture it. There are too many people, we carry too many
cameras with us. Someone's going to get a shot of this, and it'll change
everybody's outlook on probably even this press conference. Because
they're probably looking at the three of us and think we're nuts. Well,
we're not.
QUESTION: Dr. Ruehl, what are your qualifications for this kind of stuff?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well I have, of course a Ph.D. in physics,
but I've been studying various anomalies for many years. Writing about
them in my column and covering them on my TV show. And uh, I don't think
anyone is an expert beyond that because no one's caught one. And the first
person to catch one will be number one on the expert's list.
BRETT HUDSON: And that was also one of the things that came to me from uh,
a gentlemen who runs one of the sites. His name is Matthew Moneymaker.
He's, you know, said you're not an expert. And my question was, what's an
expert? We all we know is what data you can read on the internet. No
one's captured one. We've had no hair samples except for this that might
be, might be and might not be. So I think as far as being an expert, is
kind of-- well it's kind of bogus. How are you an expert on an animal that
no one has ever captured, no one's ever studied, we've never done an
autopsy. We really don't know its eating habits. We are guessing. It's a
theory. We found these bones, we found them plucked. There were teeth
marks in them. The bone marrow was sucked out, which I've never seen any
animal suck bone marrow out. They'll break the bone and try to get it if
they can. This is a very intelligent creature. We don't know anything
about it. So I guess I'm now an expert. I saw it. I don't know anything
about it other than what I saw. So until we get more information and until
we actually find one, and hopefully not capture it, we we're all kind of
guessing. But what we saw was pretty credible.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Can I just give you a few facts about
Bigfoot? The first westerner or white man to see a Bigfoot was in 1811. A
miner up in Jasper, Alberta. The first written account of a Bigfoot
creature was by none other than Teddy Roosevelt in 1893 in his book The
Wilderness Hunter. Now this is before he was president. He was a well
known outdoorsman. And he interviewed a camper. His part had been killed
by a Bigfoot while they were camping, and he described basically what we
know today about Bigfoot. Humungous footprints, a, a fetid stench. An
eerie howl. A furry creature that stood 7 to 10 feet tall, and one that
would move briskly through the brush. Now he did not use the term Bigfoot
even though he described the footprints as being humungous. That term did
not come about until 1958 with a pseudocryptozoologist (Ray Wallace?) and
uh, has been thus in our vocabulary since that time. We have a couple of
accounts of Bigfoot creatures possibly being hostile. One from the uh
Northwestern Territories. The (Nahani?) Valley Man has reputedly killed a
number of miners over the years. And then of course we have this case
from, from uh, Teddy Roosevelt. We also have some cases from the Yeti.
The first white man to claim he saw a Yeti was in 1832. A British
diplomat. He said it attacked one of his men. And the first book there
was in 1889 describing the Yeti by another British diplomat. That's
basically the history and of course we have to, up to date, we have what we
think is the definitive video.
QUESTION: Did you hear any of the howling?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: No. Unfortunately not. And we didn't smell
any fetid odors. I should add, add this; I joked. I don't know if this was
shown on TV about securing a dropping. A dung sample. And this is
serious, because it is one way anthropologists and paleontologists,
anthropologists with recently dropping, recent dropping, and
paleontologists with copulates, that is fossilized dropping, to learn about
the creature. And we had two different people who were going to, the guys
that went to the island then when they went back they couldn't find the
dropping. Then I have somebody else that contacted me and I'm waiting for,
to hear from him. He did find a, a humungous dropping. He said it had no
odor in contrast to the creatures normal fetidity, and he had wrapped it in
plastic and hopefully we will get that and send it to a lab for analysis
too. But that's a serious way to try to pinpoint the characteristics of
this creature.
QUESTION: Do you think this creature knew that you were looking for it?
CHERIE CURRIE: It's kind of funny, when on the video, he almost seems like
he senses, uh, that he's being videotaped and he turns and, and runs. And
I don't know.
BRETT HUDSON: That's a really good question because that's one of the
things, you know, they obviously have a great sense of smell. Because
they're very elusive. And, and, uh, I didn't get the feeling that it was
watching us. I never felt like we were being watched. But I did have the
feeling that wherever was in that vicinity was no longer there when we were
walking in. That's where I-- this footprint, it's hard to describe. You
kind of. how you get there, i it's an island that goes pretty, pretty far
out. And to get there, you gotta cross the ferry and then walk down this
walk, the line where they have the power lines and then cut into the
forest. Once you hit the forest, it's pretty dense. I mean, we had a hard
time walking through.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: It's terrible.
BRETT HUDSON: With the guides, because it's not like a path. There's no
path back there. You just kind of walk as you go. This footprint looked
rather fresh when we found it. The other ones we found had been there a
while you could tell because they start to rise up. But this one looked
pretty fresh and when the guide sent us, well which way is he going, he
said that way, which was out. I'm trying to give you the idea that it
wasn't in the vicinity anymore because it was heading out towards the
forest, deeper into the forest area. I hope it wasn't watching, that's all
I have to say. Because, you know, there was something about it that was
kind of scary. There was a definite adrenaline rush.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well again, our one guide, the first night he
sensed it was there. He wanted to be armed with a shotgun the next day.
And may I point out how treacherous this area is. On one excursion I did
not go on, everyone fell except Cherie. Including the guides. So that
indicates how treacherous this region is. I'm gonna say, skeptics say for
instance they might say this looks too much like a man. Or not enough like
a man. We don't know what a Bigfoot or an ape/human hybrid would look
like. He might actually walk very much like a human being and just be
covered with fur. Or he may be bent over and walk more ape like. We have,
again, around the world many different descriptions. As I said the Yaweh
down in Australia is actually smaller than a typical man, bent over very
husky. So nothing can be ruled out. No possibility can be ruled out. He
may actually walk, upright like I do. Or he may be hunched over like an
ape. Or he may have different creatures and, walking in different ways.
BRETT HUDSON: There's also something that's interesting on the video,
although it's very difficult to see. I've gone through it for hours, frame
by frame. Dr. Ruehl and I were sitting in the edit bay and there's a
particular frame where this animal has its arm swung back. If you draw a
line from where it's arm is, it's hand goes well below it's knee. Those
are very long arms. And when it's, and the video, it's out of focus so
it's really hard to see, and standing sideways, and when it turns towards
Bobby Clark. because it looked. even Bobby Clark, who is a sweet guy, if he
told a lie his tongue would snap off. When he told me what happened, that
when it turned and looked at him and then turned and walked away, the girth
of this animal is, is incredible. You can kind of see it in that one shot.
Its upper body is, is massive. And then when it turned and walked away. I
grew up in Oregon. I've seen bears on their hind legs. Bears don't walk
like us. Bears kind of waddle when they walk. And they don't stay up on
their hind legs as long as this animal did. So I ruled out a bear as soon
as I saw it walk away. And if you know the area, and know the people that
live in this area, there's no way they could have set this up. There is no
costume shops. There's nothing you can go-- there's no Western Costume.
You can't go get any-- and if you know Bobby Clark, he's an honorable,
honest man. And I believe this to be real, which is. I can't believe I'm
saying it but I do.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And as far as sincerity, all of the people I
interviewed definitely seemed to be absolutely sincere. By the way just a
bit of trivia. Rob Roy, the famous Scotsman actually had extremely long
arms. So long that he didn't have to bend over to tuck in his boots. Had
arms something like Bigfoot described here.
QUESTION: What was Bobby Clark. was he shooting something else that day or
was he up there looking for Bigfoot?
BRETT HUDSON: No. I'll tell you exactly what happened. He, this ferry,
it's a car ferry that takes you across the Nelson River. Uh, and what
happened was he was on the night, the night shift a couple of nights
earlier and he kept hearing this sound on the other side of, of the Nelson
River. He kept hearing this strange sound. So he brought his camera so he
could record the audio that he was hearing these very strange sounds back
in this place called Ross Island when he would take the ferry across. But
when he got, he actually brought his friend along with him when he got
there, and they waited, and they were there all night until six in the
morning. There were no sounds. So he went home, went to bed, left the
camera in his car. Did a day turnaround then he was on he morning shift.
So his camera was in the car trying to capture an audio of whatever this
sound was. There's an outhouse. He took one car over and back. He went to
the outhouse and when he was walking out of the outhouse he said he felt
like something was watching, or somebody was watching him. And he looked
back towards the road and all the way down where you park your cars, which
is just a dirt gravel road that leads to this ferry. He said, and he kept
having, he said I had this very strange feeling, he said and for some
reason, he said I don't know why I turned around and looked across the
river. He said and I saw this extremely large animal standing in, in,
about. it's about three feet of water. Even in the picture where they
compared me to the, to the animal. I'm in about three feet of water. The
water's about up to just below my knee. He ran to his car and got his
camera and shot. The reason it's so out of focus, it was on autofocus and
the little branches in front are in perfect focus, and he couldn't get
through to focus on whatever this creature was. It was a fluke that he
left his camera in his car. That's how he got it.
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BRETT HUDSON: Are we ready? You guys rolling?
QUESTION: Can we get everybody's name?
BRETT HUDSON: You shall. I'm Brett Hudson. I'm a field producer for A
Current Affair.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Dr. Franklin Dr. Franklin R. Ruehl, Ph.D.,
anomalist and host of the show Mysteries From Beyond The Other Dominion.
CHERIE CURRIE: And I'm Cherie Currie. I'm a chainsaw wood carver and a
mom. Ha ha ha!
BRETT HUDSON: So here's basically how it started. I got a call from A
Current Affair to go up to a Bigfoot sighting up in Northern Manitoba. I
screamed and kicked and saying are you out of your mind? But I went up
anyway and in going up there and securing the tape for A Current Affair, an
exclusive tape for A Current Affair, I started to do my own little research
with some of the people in the community up there and I found it to be very
interesting that I went up a nonbeliever and I am back believing that
whatever this is-- you can call it Bigfoot, you can call it Sasquatch--
what we have found on our expedition is quite amazing. So we went back up
with Dr.Ruehl and Cherie Currie, got two Cree Indian guides, Brian and
Elvis, and we went back into the forest about three hours. Hiked back in
where the Bigfoot tape that Bobby Clark shot. well, the area where the
Bigfoot was, which was across the Nelson River. We went back up there,
went back into the forest and found a number of interesting things that I'm
going to pass over to the Doctor, and he will fill you in on.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Yeah, when I said, when I first got the call
at 9:00 am in the morning I told the producer, "No way." I said, "I'll
think about it over breakfast." But he convinced me that this could lead
to fame and fortune and a chance to actually find the creature, so I
relented because I'm an inveterate wimp, unlike my two companions here.
Now, on one broadcast I said it looked barren on the map, but I was really
impressed as we took the shuttle craft from Winnipeg up to Norway House.
To the left, to the right, to the north, to the east, to the south. To
every. in every direction. Nothing but forest land. There was enough room
there for a hundred Bigfoot creatures to be hidden. No doubt about it.
That really impressed me. Then as we got into the brush, we realized how
difficult it would be to track one of these creatures. Every step of the
way. Bramble bushes with thorns. Mud holes. Branches of all sizes. You
could have tripped ten different times going just a couple of feet. So
it's very dangerous, very difficult to pursue a creature if he indeed does
exist there. Now I came up as a believer.
My belief has been strengthened by what we found in just such a short time.
To begin with, here are the photos, stills taken from Bobby Clark's video.
It appears to be some sort of a creature; not a bear, not a man. And some
skeptics say, well it's too blurry to distinguish what that creature could
possibly be. Well, I point out, when you have a video that's too sharp,
they, the skeptics say it's fabricated. This seems to be a legitimate film
footage of a creature that could be Bigfoot. The man who took it, Bobby
Clark, hesitated to come forth with this for several days. He was so
shocked by what he had seen. But I believe he's sincere. I've met him. I
don't believe he's fabricating anything. This is some sort of creature,
most likely evidence of Bigfoot in existence up there. We were truly in
Bigfoot country.
Now, we found one field that we think is a feasting field, where you could
have even a family of Bigfoots. It had dozens of bones and literally
thousands of feathers such as this, what appears to be an eagle's wing with
the bone attached. A femur of a deer. And the same up here. We also found
the skull of a deer. So the idea is that this could be an area where
Bigfoot or his family feast. And importantly, you see that the bone has
the feathers on from the eagle. Normally bears and other predators don't
pluck birds before they eat them. This would indicate we're dealing with
some sort of primate. A more intelligent creature, i.e. a possible Bigfoot
here.
BRETT HUDSON: Bone marrow.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Oh, that's right. And here we have a bone
that was apparently from a deer. The marrow's sucked out. So possibly
this creature enjoys feasting on bone marrow of other creatures. And the
question of course arises, what does Bigfoot eat? Well, he was found here
along the shore. At this time, the fish-- this is early spring-- all
congregate near the shore. So he may be a fish eater. Also while we were
in the field one night, we heard a thousand frogs croaking. In fact I did
not believe they were frogs. They sounded, it sounded like an auto
factory. It was so loud. Then suddenly, silence. An eerie silence, as
though some predator, perhaps, had suddenly appeared in the area. Perhaps
Bigfoot enjoys eating amphibians and the frogs realize that. They later
resumed their noise. But it was an eerie moment for us.
Now, we also have a comparison shot. This was a still taken from the Bobby
Clark video encircled the Bigfoot creature. Here, encircled are, are our
hero here, Brett Hudson, and Cherie Curry. Brett stands about 5'10". This
entity is about three and a half to four feet taller. In other words,
Bigfoot could be 9-1/2, 10 feet tall. We're talking about a humungous
creature. And I believe-- I can't say this for certain-- this is the first
time anyone has every showed a comparison shot like this of the creature
and then human beings in the very same spot. So this isn't absolute proof
he exists, but further evidence that Bigfoot may indeed exist on this
planet.
And we also had provided by us, to us, a hair samples. now into five
segments, by one of the locals.
Now I must say, that up there the Cree people treated us magnificently.
Beginning with Chief Ron Evans. Their kindness really helped our expedition
succeed. In addition, I was impressed because I had several of the locals
bring along, up evidence. And it was done in a very professional manner.
Using digital cameras for footprints. This man carefully preserved a hair
sample he had found. We had another team that videotaped their trip to the
island that is just off of the shoreline where he was, uh, videotaped. They
videotaped their excursion and showed themselves measuring the footprints.
Then they brought us back the footprints. They actually cut them out and
put them in boxes. Everyone dedicated to finding the truth about this
creature up there. Everyone did it in a very professional manner for, for
uh, an amateurs. I was going to say, professionals couldn't have done any
better. Now this hair sample is very fragile. It's in about five
segments. We're going to have it analyzed. But may I point out that I did
receive a call from a local who had a hair sample that he had analyzed at
the RCMP forensic lab by one of the deputies who into, into this.
Unfortunately, we had to leave before he could give me the report but the
report said it was indeterminate. Doesn't prove it's a Bigfoot, but it's
of no known creature. So that again indicates we're dealing with an
unknown being, i.e. Bigfoot who may have existed there for centuries. Now
any questions?
BRETT HUDSON: Good. Okay.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Make a statement about Bigfoot. He may be
an example of divergent evolution. Perhaps this creature originated, say
in the Himalayas where we have legends of the Yeti. Crossed the land
barrier and in various sectors of the Northwest evolved in different ways.
We could have some Bigfoot creatures who are vegetarians and others who are
carnivores and others omnivores. Even in the same area their eating habits
may differ. Also we have such creatures around the word. We have for
example the Mokele Mbembe in Africa, and of course we have El Sisimeti down
in Guatamala. The Yowie down in Australia. The Skunk Ape in Florida and a
host of others. Each may have originated independently in their own
particular ecological niche, and that would account for differences.
They're not all as tall as the Bigfoot here. In fact, the Yowie, for
example, is shorter than a man. Stockier. Moves like an ape. On the
other hand, some are taller. And I'd want to point out it could be an
example of one creature that migrated around the world or several different
creatures that each independently evolved in a particular ecological niche.
And I would want to say this: is it my opinion that if we sent a crew up
there with tranquilizer guns, especially in this area where Bigfoot has
been sighted recently, I think we could catch him. But you'd need a team
perhaps of ten men. I personally would like to see Bigfoot caught alive,
studied for perhaps six months, and then returned to the wild. My two
companions here are totally opposed to that. Brett Hudson, why are you
opposed to that?
BRETT HUDSON: I'm opposed to it for a number of reasons, for the Cree
Indians, the Cree Nation, it's very spiritual to them, whatever this entity
is. And they believe it's good luck. They believe that this came to them
and it's going to bring good luck to their community. I don't think it's
necessary to capture anything. I don't mind shooting it from a distance or
finding evidence that it does exist, but let it live where it lives. It
means something to the Cree Nation and I think it's important that we
preserve that as well. That's why I disagree with the doctor here, but
that's what makes the world go around, isn't it? Disagreement?
CHERIE CURRIE: Actually, I mean, I do for a little bit, from you Brett,
because I would really. I didn't believe in this creature really. I didn't
think it existed. But I am truly a believer now. And I would love to be
able to find this creature and study it, but then no, I definitely believe
this creature needs to be in the wild. It's a very intelligent creature
obviously and I think that I kind of like the mystery of it all, too.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: What she just said is quite true. If we do
indeed capture a Bigfoot. either find a carcass or bring them back alive,
that will end the mystique of Bigfoot. The mystery's over. It's just like
if we actually had definitive evidence of who Jack the Ripper was, then all
the intriguing theories that have been advanced will no longer be of
interest. So that's, that's one problem with bringing him back alive. May
I say this: that one question, one problem is that no matter how many
videotapes you have of him, the skeptics will always say they're fabricated
or some other creature. So I personally believe we have to bring him back,
study him; find out, for example, if he has specially thick fur on his legs
to accommodate him as he goes through that rough brush. What his eating
habits are, etc. I also wanted to say this: a question that skeptics often
point out; why haven't we found a Bigfoot carcass? We know that these
animals die if they exist. Well I point out that there's what's called a
natural chain of predation. There's a body lying in the brush. Larger
predators will go after it. Then you have some of the predatory birds that
will finish it up and then at the last level you'll have predatory
microorganisms so that virtually nothing is left. I point out if you walk
down the street you don't see the dead bodies of birds or squirrels
although we know they're out there and that they do die. And so I think
this is one reason we haven't found a carcass. And that's something
skeptics say, how come we haven't found a carcass?
CHERIE CURRIE: Maybe they bury their own.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And that's another point. Excellent, Cherie
Currie. If they're intelligent creatures, perhaps they drag off any dead
relatives, perhaps bury them or hide them in some way so, so outsiders will
not find them.
QUESTION: Doctor, what were your plans if you came across any of the
creatures either laying or on the loose?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well, I'll tell you. We didn't have a
tranquilizer gun, but we had Cherie Currie, who had her chainsaw just in
case we needed to be defended.
BRETT HUDSON: We had two guides. We had two guides with us, we brought two
Cree Indian guides and they were both packing.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well the first, no, first time the guide was
not packing ay weapon, but this is interesting: he was so frightened that
we really were about to encounter Bigfoot that the next day he and his guy,
his friend Elvis, brought along shotguns. I did not like that. I don't
want this creature killed. I want him brought back alive. But for study.
And I want to say something else; that uh, we joked about Cherie Currie and
we kidded around a lot, but she is one gutsy gal. She's willing to take
any chance. Nothing phased her. I was very happy to have her on and she
is a true woodswoman. She knows the woods. I'm a wimp. She's actually
more qualified than yours truly. And then we have Brett Hudson here, who
the word fear is not in this man's vocabulary. He was also willing to take
any chance. So these comrades were just tremendous.
BRETT HUDSON: When we were back in the area, about three hours in, it's
called Ross Island, the island where it was filmed. When we found this
first footprint, wherever it is, uh, that we measured. actually Cherie
found it. This very first footprint. And I'm measuring it there. The
guide was sitting over there and he. this is a guy who grew up in this
area. He trapped with his father and his grandfather. And this, he knows
this area like the back of his hand and he looked at us and said, "I, I'm
uncomfortable. I'm scared." This, and so, you know, if my guide's
scared, what does that leave me and Cherie? I mean, there was something
about it that was kind of eerie, because that footprint, although it didn't
photograph that well was about two and a half inches down. If you know the
terrain there. there, this marsh area, so there's a lot of. there's a lot
of moss growing up over the marsh that you walk on. If you know that
area, to make that deep of. I mean, I jumped up and down to try to make an
impression and it would just float up because of the moss. So whoever made
that footprint is a very, very heavy animal. Very heavy. That unnerved
our own guides.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Yeah. We're talking about perhaps 800
pounds. I mean we can't be sure but something in the nature of 500, 800
pounds. A very heavy creature.
BRETT HUDSON: Look, I know people are going to watch this and think those
three people up here are nuts. I'm not nuts. I went up there thinking, oh
my god, I finally hit the ultimate story. I'm chasing Bigfoot? Please,
give me a break. You can call it what you want, but there's a very large
animal out there that somebody put on tape, that we had the opportunity to
track and found some I think credible evidence that there is a particular
creature up there that is allowing himself or herself to be seen.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And again, I was so impressed that right
away, right off the bat, we're finding footprints. Fresh footprints. So
uh, it really looks like there's something there. And I got a number of
calls from the locals, including one call from a man who knows a woman down
in an area that's intermediate between Winnipeg and uh, Norway House, who
had seen a Bigfoot in her yard. Actually she had awakened him, and he sort
of scurried off. And she, unfortunately we just couldn't go down there to
interview her. We might get to interview later. But seems that possibly
Bigfoot has recently come out of hibernation, and that's why we're getting
these reports of sightings. And I certainly think that if you were to send
a team, a well equipped team in the next few weeks, you could catch him.
CHERIE CURRIE: One other thing that we did find too is that there were
numerous fresh trees about this big around that had been snapped as if
right. the area which Bigfoot had on the video had gone into the forest. I
mean they were literally just snapped like twigs, just in this one area
near the feeding area. And since I work in wood, this was not done by the
wind. This was done by force.
BRETT HUDSON: And also there, you know you can tell there are a lot of
beaver up there and you can tell the ones that the beaver because they have
teeth marks in it. There were three or four that were just snapped at the
base and Cherie's right, they were about that big. We have video of it.
And it was all leaving from where the Bigfoot was seen up to where this
area was where there are all these feathers and carcasses.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And our guide Brian said that this was not
any human who felled that tree. No grizzly bear. So that leaves possibly
Bigfoot.
QUESTION: Cherie Currie, has this expedition inspired you to immortalize
Bigfoot in wood?
CHERIE CURRIE: I'm definitely going to do that. That's the first thing I'm
going to carve when I open my store, which will be very soon. Yes.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And she did. with her chainsaw, she left my
calling card. "Doctor Ruehl was here," and I'll be eternally appreciative
for that. Thank you very much.
CHERIE CURRIE: You're welcome.
QUESTION: Dr. Ruehl, can I have your autograph?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Of course, but that'll be a dollar.
BRETT HUDSON: Uh oh, it's starting. And before we leave, Dr. Ruehl, has to
give his signature.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Are there no more questions regarding
Bigfoot?
BRETT HUDSON: Sign this.
QUESTION: Are there plans to go back?
BRETT HUDSON: I would love to go back. I would love to go back again and
go back into that area. Because there's so much ground to cover. Dr.
Ruehl's right. When you fly up there, everywhere you look there's forest.
Until you hit Norway House, which is an incredible community built by these
Cree Indians and the chief and it's an amazing place to stay but as soon as
you leave this little area, it's nothing, nothing but forest. I would love
to go back with more people. Not that we didn't have good equipment, but
even more sophisticated equipment.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Including tranquilizer guns.
CHERIE CURRIE: I would love to go and, and stay. I mean, stay at least a
couple of three days in that area through the night, and uh.
BRETT HUDSON: Well you go ahead, I'll call you from the hotel.
CHERIE CURRIE: That's okay.
BRETT HUDSON: 'Cause, you know, I would love to go back with more
sophisticated equipment.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Including a tranquilizer gun.
BRETT HUDSON: I'm not going to let you capture it, Dr. Ruehl. I will free
the Bigfoot. You're not going to do it. And go back and do one more, one
more really more extensive search. Because we just, I think we just were
right on the surface where we were. I don't know if there are any plans,
uh, to send us back, but I would love to do it. I'd love to go back and
give it one more shot.
QUESTION: How about further shows for some of the other creatures that are
out there? Would you guys be interested in perhaps say to Australia.
BRETT HUDSON: Well you know, absolutely. As a matter of fact while we
were up in Norway House there was a sighting in Northern California. Um,
not that I want to spend my life chasing Bigfoot, but there is something
about it that's very intriguing now that I have become a believer and saw
what I actually saw with my own two eyes. And talk to some of the elders of
the Cree Nation who actually, you know there are stories that are passed on
and they're all very similar about this particular animal that when it
comes around it's either good luck or bad luck, and they, the spiritual
aspect for them is pretty amazing. But I, I still think there's a shot.
Somebody's going to get it. somebody's going to get a credible video of it
and, and Dr. Franklin R. Ruehl, Ph.D.'s right. If it's too much in focus
and too good people are going to discount the video and say it's a hoax.
Someone's gonna capture it. There are too many people, we carry too many
cameras with us. Someone's going to get a shot of this, and it'll change
everybody's outlook on probably even this press conference. Because
they're probably looking at the three of us and think we're nuts. Well,
we're not.
QUESTION: Dr. Ruehl, what are your qualifications for this kind of stuff?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well I have, of course a Ph.D. in physics,
but I've been studying various anomalies for many years. Writing about
them in my column and covering them on my TV show. And uh, I don't think
anyone is an expert beyond that because no one's caught one. And the first
person to catch one will be number one on the expert's list.
BRETT HUDSON: And that was also one of the things that came to me from uh,
a gentlemen who runs one of the sites. His name is Matthew Moneymaker.
He's, you know, said you're not an expert. And my question was, what's an
expert? We all we know is what data you can read on the internet. No
one's captured one. We've had no hair samples except for this that might
be, might be and might not be. So I think as far as being an expert, is
kind of-- well it's kind of bogus. How are you an expert on an animal that
no one has ever captured, no one's ever studied, we've never done an
autopsy. We really don't know its eating habits. We are guessing. It's a
theory. We found these bones, we found them plucked. There were teeth
marks in them. The bone marrow was sucked out, which I've never seen any
animal suck bone marrow out. They'll break the bone and try to get it if
they can. This is a very intelligent creature. We don't know anything
about it. So I guess I'm now an expert. I saw it. I don't know anything
about it other than what I saw. So until we get more information and until
we actually find one, and hopefully not capture it, we we're all kind of
guessing. But what we saw was pretty credible.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Can I just give you a few facts about
Bigfoot? The first westerner or white man to see a Bigfoot was in 1811. A
miner up in Jasper, Alberta. The first written account of a Bigfoot
creature was by none other than Teddy Roosevelt in 1893 in his book The
Wilderness Hunter. Now this is before he was president. He was a well
known outdoorsman. And he interviewed a camper. His part had been killed
by a Bigfoot while they were camping, and he described basically what we
know today about Bigfoot. Humungous footprints, a, a fetid stench. An
eerie howl. A furry creature that stood 7 to 10 feet tall, and one that
would move briskly through the brush. Now he did not use the term Bigfoot
even though he described the footprints as being humungous. That term did
not come about until 1958 with a pseudocryptozoologist (Ray Wallace?) and
uh, has been thus in our vocabulary since that time. We have a couple of
accounts of Bigfoot creatures possibly being hostile. One from the uh
Northwestern Territories. The (Nahani?) Valley Man has reputedly killed a
number of miners over the years. And then of course we have this case
from, from uh, Teddy Roosevelt. We also have some cases from the Yeti.
The first white man to claim he saw a Yeti was in 1832. A British
diplomat. He said it attacked one of his men. And the first book there
was in 1889 describing the Yeti by another British diplomat. That's
basically the history and of course we have to, up to date, we have what we
think is the definitive video.
QUESTION: Did you hear any of the howling?
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: No. Unfortunately not. And we didn't smell
any fetid odors. I should add, add this; I joked. I don't know if this was
shown on TV about securing a dropping. A dung sample. And this is
serious, because it is one way anthropologists and paleontologists,
anthropologists with recently dropping, recent dropping, and
paleontologists with copulates, that is fossilized dropping, to learn about
the creature. And we had two different people who were going to, the guys
that went to the island then when they went back they couldn't find the
dropping. Then I have somebody else that contacted me and I'm waiting for,
to hear from him. He did find a, a humungous dropping. He said it had no
odor in contrast to the creatures normal fetidity, and he had wrapped it in
plastic and hopefully we will get that and send it to a lab for analysis
too. But that's a serious way to try to pinpoint the characteristics of
this creature.
QUESTION: Do you think this creature knew that you were looking for it?
CHERIE CURRIE: It's kind of funny, when on the video, he almost seems like
he senses, uh, that he's being videotaped and he turns and, and runs. And
I don't know.
BRETT HUDSON: That's a really good question because that's one of the
things, you know, they obviously have a great sense of smell. Because
they're very elusive. And, and, uh, I didn't get the feeling that it was
watching us. I never felt like we were being watched. But I did have the
feeling that wherever was in that vicinity was no longer there when we were
walking in. That's where I-- this footprint, it's hard to describe. You
kind of. how you get there, i it's an island that goes pretty, pretty far
out. And to get there, you gotta cross the ferry and then walk down this
walk, the line where they have the power lines and then cut into the
forest. Once you hit the forest, it's pretty dense. I mean, we had a hard
time walking through.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: It's terrible.
BRETT HUDSON: With the guides, because it's not like a path. There's no
path back there. You just kind of walk as you go. This footprint looked
rather fresh when we found it. The other ones we found had been there a
while you could tell because they start to rise up. But this one looked
pretty fresh and when the guide sent us, well which way is he going, he
said that way, which was out. I'm trying to give you the idea that it
wasn't in the vicinity anymore because it was heading out towards the
forest, deeper into the forest area. I hope it wasn't watching, that's all
I have to say. Because, you know, there was something about it that was
kind of scary. There was a definite adrenaline rush.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: Well again, our one guide, the first night he
sensed it was there. He wanted to be armed with a shotgun the next day.
And may I point out how treacherous this area is. On one excursion I did
not go on, everyone fell except Cherie. Including the guides. So that
indicates how treacherous this region is. I'm gonna say, skeptics say for
instance they might say this looks too much like a man. Or not enough like
a man. We don't know what a Bigfoot or an ape/human hybrid would look
like. He might actually walk very much like a human being and just be
covered with fur. Or he may be bent over and walk more ape like. We have,
again, around the world many different descriptions. As I said the Yaweh
down in Australia is actually smaller than a typical man, bent over very
husky. So nothing can be ruled out. No possibility can be ruled out. He
may actually walk, upright like I do. Or he may be hunched over like an
ape. Or he may have different creatures and, walking in different ways.
BRETT HUDSON: There's also something that's interesting on the video,
although it's very difficult to see. I've gone through it for hours, frame
by frame. Dr. Ruehl and I were sitting in the edit bay and there's a
particular frame where this animal has its arm swung back. If you draw a
line from where it's arm is, it's hand goes well below it's knee. Those
are very long arms. And when it's, and the video, it's out of focus so
it's really hard to see, and standing sideways, and when it turns towards
Bobby Clark. because it looked. even Bobby Clark, who is a sweet guy, if he
told a lie his tongue would snap off. When he told me what happened, that
when it turned and looked at him and then turned and walked away, the girth
of this animal is, is incredible. You can kind of see it in that one shot.
Its upper body is, is massive. And then when it turned and walked away. I
grew up in Oregon. I've seen bears on their hind legs. Bears don't walk
like us. Bears kind of waddle when they walk. And they don't stay up on
their hind legs as long as this animal did. So I ruled out a bear as soon
as I saw it walk away. And if you know the area, and know the people that
live in this area, there's no way they could have set this up. There is no
costume shops. There's nothing you can go-- there's no Western Costume.
You can't go get any-- and if you know Bobby Clark, he's an honorable,
honest man. And I believe this to be real, which is. I can't believe I'm
saying it but I do.
DR. FRANKLIN R. RUEHL, PH.D.: And as far as sincerity, all of the people I
interviewed definitely seemed to be absolutely sincere. By the way just a
bit of trivia. Rob Roy, the famous Scotsman actually had extremely long
arms. So long that he didn't have to bend over to tuck in his boots. Had
arms something like Bigfoot described here.
QUESTION: What was Bobby Clark. was he shooting something else that day or
was he up there looking for Bigfoot?
BRETT HUDSON: No. I'll tell you exactly what happened. He, this ferry,
it's a car ferry that takes you across the Nelson River. Uh, and what
happened was he was on the night, the night shift a couple of nights
earlier and he kept hearing this sound on the other side of, of the Nelson
River. He kept hearing this strange sound. So he brought his camera so he
could record the audio that he was hearing these very strange sounds back
in this place called Ross Island when he would take the ferry across. But
when he got, he actually brought his friend along with him when he got
there, and they waited, and they were there all night until six in the
morning. There were no sounds. So he went home, went to bed, left the
camera in his car. Did a day turnaround then he was on he morning shift.
So his camera was in the car trying to capture an audio of whatever this
sound was. There's an outhouse. He took one car over and back. He went to
the outhouse and when he was walking out of the outhouse he said he felt
like something was watching, or somebody was watching him. And he looked
back towards the road and all the way down where you park your cars, which
is just a dirt gravel road that leads to this ferry. He said, and he kept
having, he said I had this very strange feeling, he said and for some
reason, he said I don't know why I turned around and looked across the
river. He said and I saw this extremely large animal standing in, in,
about. it's about three feet of water. Even in the picture where they
compared me to the, to the animal. I'm in about three feet of water. The
water's about up to just below my knee. He ran to his car and got his
camera and shot. The reason it's so out of focus, it was on autofocus and
the little branches in front are in perfect focus, and he couldn't get
through to focus on whatever this creature was. It was a fluke that he
left his camera in his car. That's how he got it.
Anyone wishing to persue this area, heres some contact info for you.
www.nhcn.ca...
www.nhcn.ca...
Thats the official page of Norway House Manitoba.
www.nhcn.ca...
www.nhcn.ca...
Thats the official page of Norway House Manitoba.
Look, those are the best pictures available of the footprints, thanks to Sharness' digital camera. I have some too with a tape measure, however the
only cam i had was disposable so u can imagine the quality sucks. I have pictures of the 16.5 footprints, and the hairs with the white roots. There
were 18 inch footprints too but they perished. I have a close up pic of hairs as well. Those pics were takenin my neighbors backyard where the
treeline starts. Ahem, she's still taking meat and fish out there, I don't know i think she wants a big hairy pet.
Although it's been quiet lately, last night it roared. And over on Mission Island the dogs were just going nuts. Men are saying it crossed the co-op road. So it might head over to west island. The co-op has had many break ins this winter, so the fisherman's office (which is just across the from it) had a camera installed in it's offices to videotape it at all times. What do u say they might have it on tape?By the way the head cheese is Langford Saunders' brother (btw he was the one who ended up with 70 percent of Bobby Clarke's moolah) and he went on vacation because of the stress. stress my ass. Think it's Bobby's ass that got stressed on that one.
It was seen in the seventies over there (West Island) and a missing horse was found with his stomach ripped open. I think it's gonna be here for the summer. Because over at Poplar river (link in your story) it was there for the summer. MY dad was an RCMP officer who had been dispatched there. He did castings and handled a lot of reports by the town residents.
By the way the pic u have of the Norway House links is only Rossville it's not the end all be all of Norway House. Y'all should come here for York Boat Days. If only to check the scenes out.
Although it's been quiet lately, last night it roared. And over on Mission Island the dogs were just going nuts. Men are saying it crossed the co-op road. So it might head over to west island. The co-op has had many break ins this winter, so the fisherman's office (which is just across the from it) had a camera installed in it's offices to videotape it at all times. What do u say they might have it on tape?By the way the head cheese is Langford Saunders' brother (btw he was the one who ended up with 70 percent of Bobby Clarke's moolah) and he went on vacation because of the stress. stress my ass. Think it's Bobby's ass that got stressed on that one.
It was seen in the seventies over there (West Island) and a missing horse was found with his stomach ripped open. I think it's gonna be here for the summer. Because over at Poplar river (link in your story) it was there for the summer. MY dad was an RCMP officer who had been dispatched there. He did castings and handled a lot of reports by the town residents.
By the way the pic u have of the Norway House links is only Rossville it's not the end all be all of Norway House. Y'all should come here for York Boat Days. If only to check the scenes out.
Lets hope that it is real because there has been too much fake footage in the past. The native Amercains have seen it and regard it very highly.
Hi scar and all members ,
The juvenile bigfoot is making his appearance known after 2am to people in the dead end of Paupanekis Point by roaring aggressively and cracking branches. Lately tho it seems he's trying to articulate himself, by having guttural verbalizations after his roars.
My sister has gone out several times with different types of recording devices to try and capture the sounds. All times it didn't even capture the dogs freaking out and barking til they were hoarse. What sort of equipment would work best? Please let me know asap, oh and we're nowhere near a walmart...well three hours away . By the way I took a lil drive down the bus loop to look at the area where his sound offs are coming from, and a lot of trees look cracked off from the 8-10ft. height. One tree looks completely pulled out of the ground, and it's got a large trunk.
On the news of other activity, in the north end of Norway House by the Playgreen Development Corporation, another sasquatch howl was heard six times. That's where I always felt like I was being watched as I waited for a certain someone to arrive home from a long journey
U know I had to replace my lock as someone had broken in and destroyed my doorknob and the frame, and I was not really surprised to find almost all locks are sold out. Some people would rather not hear of any sasquatch at all, well sorry they do exist. Burying ones' head won't do. Some fear is good, to give respect. But total fear? I think not.
The juvenile bigfoot is making his appearance known after 2am to people in the dead end of Paupanekis Point by roaring aggressively and cracking branches. Lately tho it seems he's trying to articulate himself, by having guttural verbalizations after his roars.
My sister has gone out several times with different types of recording devices to try and capture the sounds. All times it didn't even capture the dogs freaking out and barking til they were hoarse. What sort of equipment would work best? Please let me know asap, oh and we're nowhere near a walmart...well three hours away . By the way I took a lil drive down the bus loop to look at the area where his sound offs are coming from, and a lot of trees look cracked off from the 8-10ft. height. One tree looks completely pulled out of the ground, and it's got a large trunk.
On the news of other activity, in the north end of Norway House by the Playgreen Development Corporation, another sasquatch howl was heard six times. That's where I always felt like I was being watched as I waited for a certain someone to arrive home from a long journey
U know I had to replace my lock as someone had broken in and destroyed my doorknob and the frame, and I was not really surprised to find almost all locks are sold out. Some people would rather not hear of any sasquatch at all, well sorry they do exist. Burying ones' head won't do. Some fear is good, to give respect. But total fear? I think not.
This looks like a fake to me. Why would a ferry operator be carrying a video camera? Why would he be so useless as to not get a clear view of the
creature? It could be anything, even usama bin laden. All you have to do is turn the camera on and record, it will be in focus already. You really
need to try hard to get it out of focus so i am calling this one pathetic hoax.
Last night about near 1:45am my son went out of the house to go wait for his friend to arrive on the road, he was coming to sleep over. U know what I
was thinking, what the hell he's out of school anyway by now. Anyway...as he's standing on the road he clearly heard the sasquatch roar but it
sounded very far away for two times. Yup I think the adult is back in my area again as I had the windows open and that unmistakable scent came thru
the window. I had to close it, it was so bad.
When they're in an area do they stay there for long? as in a whole summer or is like they're here for good? Can anyone answer this?
When they're in an area do they stay there for long? as in a whole summer or is like they're here for good? Can anyone answer this?
Hi answer_1s_0ut_th3r3
Thanks for keeping the net informed on whats going on up there.
The branches and trees that are broken or uprooted are signs of marking territory, some say, but I was wondering if its looking for food? Like bending down an apple tree branch to get an apple, ( I realize there is no apples up there) Just a thought. And Bigfoot is also thought to be migratory, so you might have him/her/them for the summer.
Superd
Thanks for keeping the net informed on whats going on up there.
The branches and trees that are broken or uprooted are signs of marking territory, some say, but I was wondering if its looking for food? Like bending down an apple tree branch to get an apple, ( I realize there is no apples up there) Just a thought. And Bigfoot is also thought to be migratory, so you might have him/her/them for the summer.
Superd
Hi all
My sister who lives on the near end of Paupanekis Point, as in the photo showing the south end (deepest south and dead end of Norway HOuse) told me, last night she went outside and heard a lot of splashing coming from the river, as if someone was swimming. She also noticed some people from Mission Island were shining high powered spotlights towards the bush on Paupanekis point. The Howls were back in full force again.
www.nhcn.ca/aerial_20.html.
Also, if someone could answer on what type of equipment is suitable to record the howls & and other sounds the Sasquatch is making that'd be really great. Like i mentioned 2 or 3 posts ago, the recorders she uses won't even pick up the dogs going nuts around her. She's so brave
My sister who lives on the near end of Paupanekis Point, as in the photo showing the south end (deepest south and dead end of Norway HOuse) told me, last night she went outside and heard a lot of splashing coming from the river, as if someone was swimming. She also noticed some people from Mission Island were shining high powered spotlights towards the bush on Paupanekis point. The Howls were back in full force again.
www.nhcn.ca/aerial_20.html.
Also, if someone could answer on what type of equipment is suitable to record the howls & and other sounds the Sasquatch is making that'd be really great. Like i mentioned 2 or 3 posts ago, the recorders she uses won't even pick up the dogs going nuts around her. She's so brave
Originally posted by answer_1s_0ut_th3r3
Hi all
My sister who lives on the near end of Paupanekis Point, as in the photo showing the south end (deepest south and dead end of Norway HOuse) told me, last night she went outside and heard a lot of splashing coming from the river, as if someone was swimming. She also noticed some people from Mission Island were shining high powered spotlights towards the bush on Paupanekis point. The Howls were back in full force again.
www.nhcn.ca/aerial_20.html.
Also, if someone could answer on what type of equipment is suitable to record the howls & and other sounds the Sasquatch is making that'd be really great. Like i mentioned 2 or 3 posts ago, the recorders she uses won't even pick up the dogs going nuts around her. She's so brave
Thats interesting. Thanks for the update. As for the audio question, im not sure as im no audio expert myself. Perhaps someone else could provide some information. The mods may be of help as well.
Keep us up to date.
OK Guys ! I will quit F_ _ _ Around !
Tonight- I take the Bigfoot Outfit off and burn it ! I Promise.
Well- Wait ! One more time tonight and then I will burn it !
Tonight- I take the Bigfoot Outfit off and burn it ! I Promise.
Well- Wait ! One more time tonight and then I will burn it !
Hi answer_1s_0ut_th3r3
I found a tape recorder that I used to record conference speckers.
It has a sensitvity setting that you can increase. I'll send it to you.
I just need a contact person, I also have a friend going to Thompson on July 11 who said would take it up. Complete with blank tapes.
I found a tape recorder that I used to record conference speckers.
It has a sensitvity setting that you can increase. I'll send it to you.
I just need a contact person, I also have a friend going to Thompson on July 11 who said would take it up. Complete with blank tapes.
The question of how to handle an encounter with bigfoot , has interested me. Plus why capture one if you could study one in the wilds.
I came across this story, and loved it.
ENJOY
www.bigfootencounters.com...
I came across this story, and loved it.
ENJOY
www.bigfootencounters.com...
Originally posted by Shadow88
WHERE IS THE GOD DAMN VIDEO!!!! SHOW ME THE VIDEO!!!!!!
Are you referring to the video that this thread is based upon?? If so there's nothing to see except a blur. The video has been altered to the point of being laughable.
Peace
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