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reply posted on 15-4-2005 @ 11:35 AM by Paul
Here's a link to another ATS thread on the subject.

There is a phenomenon involving "zombies" and Voodoo witchdoctors, but there is a rational explanation, involving poisoning and trickery. Check the thread out, I outlined it in a bit more detail there.


reply posted on 15-4-2005 @ 11:58 AM by LuDaCrIs
Originally posted by Paul
Here's a link to
another ATS thread on the subject.

There is a phenomenon involving "zombies" and Voodoo witchdoctors, but there is a rational explanation, involving poisoning and trickery. Check the thread out, I outlined it in a bit more detail there.


I am gonna have to agree with Paul here. There is no such thing as zombies or voodoo. Whoever beleives in that stuff, and i am sorry for being so blunt, should try and think a lot smarter. Think critically when it comes to ideas like this and you will see its nothing more than bull crap.

You say ur starting to beleive it???...Well wat exactly are you basing your belief on??...I am just curiuos.


reply posted on 15-4-2005 @ 12:40 PM by bordnlazy
Zora Neale hurston went to Haiti researching folklore and came across and actual live myth(okay maybe not too alive) You could say this is the first documented zombie in the western hemisphere.

Felicia Felix-Mentor was a native of Ennery. In 1907 she suddenly became ill and died and was buried. There were actual records of the event. Her husband and boy moved on with their lives. Her husband remarried and her boy grew into a man.
Then one day in October 1936 a naked woman was found in the road and reported to the Garde d’Haiti. The same woman surfaced again, this time on a farm and said,” This is the farm of my father. I use to live here.” The tenants living there were scared and chased her off the property. Finally they sent for the boss and he recognized her as his sister who had died and been buried twenty-nine years ago. They sent Felicia to the Hospital. Her husband was called to come and identify her but he refused to at first because he was into politics and didn’t want anything to do with this. He eventually was forced to come and see her, and made the identification of the woman as being his former wife.

Just how did this woman come to be alive after twenty-nine years? Nobody really knows and will probably not ever know. The secret could be with some Bocor who is either dead or alive. There is a theory that a missionary will convert a Bocor and he will give up all his paraphernalia to the church and will free his captives. The Zombies are unable to say anything-since they have lost the ability to speak so they are found wandering about. Or a Bocor could die and his widow will refuse their responsibility for various reasons. The Zombies are set free but these theories are not common


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here's a pic of her



While there are a few articles on the net about this. the link above the article was the one that had most on this woman , i don't know if she ever got *better*.
Though it's obvious that the woman went through some sort of extreme abuse , it's highly unlikely that she was Beaten to comply, I didn't see any mention of her having any scars on any of the articles I read. She would just cover her ears as if to block out things she didn't want to hear. Almost as if she was in some sort of permanent mental shock.


reply posted on 15-4-2005 @ 01:47 PM by Nygdan
There is an intersting study, thats also been fictionalized, so take that for what its worth, about zombies.

Apparently the 'zombie dust/potion' used in haiti contains a mish mash of stuff, and one of these things is poison from the puffer fish.
Now, firstly, the problem is that the concentrations of the poison has never been found to be high enough to have the affect alleged.

Anyway, the idea is that the poison, which can cause paralysis and even allow the mind to be 'awake' and do all sorts of things, is what causes the zombie effect, you get it, you are paralyzed, people, including doctors, think you are dead (heart rate, breathing, down to nil) you are buried, you see it all happening, trip out/whatever, wake up, claw your way back, voila, yer a zombie, possibly with brain damage.

One of the peopel who claimed in recent times to be a zombie said that he, and lots of others, were dug up and brought to work in plantations for illegal products or somesuch, but ended up 'escaping' when the operation was raided/destroyed.

However, puffer fish is consumed in Japan, and there are no tales of Zombies in japan, certainly not like in Haiti. When someone gets poisoned by the fish, everyone knows whats up.

So an important part of the idea is that Haiti has this mythos of zombies, and that religion is very powerful in haiti and in the minds of haitians. So when someone has been messed with by these witch doctors and goes thru the expereince, they figure that they are zombies, whereas a japanese citizen would know better.

Deny ignorance, don't become a zombie.

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