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The most fortified area in Donbass and probably in Europe beginning to fall. Wagner back in theatre

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posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 01:03 AM
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Its begun. Russia has recently launched a significant offensive in Avdiika in eastern Ukraine.

Which is a key city and position in the Eastern Ukraine front. And the most fortified area on the front, that’s also touted as probably the most fortified area in Europe.

It’s also reported that fighters from the PMC "Wagner," who have signed a contract with the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation and work for PMC "Redut," are operating as part of the assault groups. The number is unknown.


Reinforced concrete fortresses Avdeevka.

Some people do not clearly understand what the Avdeevsky fortified area is, at best-imagining footage of urban battles, and this is wrong, we are correcting it.

The enemy built this fortification non-stop for 9 years, all important strategic positions were poured into reinforced concrete, and a whole network of fortifications was dug into the ground, a significant part of them are united by passages, trenches, there are underground tunnels, these allow you to survive even heavy shelling, the visible above-ground parts of the dugouts are welded anti-cumulative grilles for protection against anti-tank missiles.

The entire perimeter is covered with CCTV cameras and motion sensors.

This is what our soldiers are now hacking, no one has ever performed such a task in the modern world, and there is no more fortified place on the entire front.


This is after the failed summer Ukrainian offensive, that was largely harped all year courtesy of msm and social media in preparation.





posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 01:13 AM
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I just hope that it all stops. That is my wish.



posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 01:35 AM
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Thankfully there are few civilians in that city. Soldiers fighting soldiers. There's something wholesome about that...in a gruesome, horrifying, infantile way.

That description of the entrenched fortress is eerily similar to the other situation occurring in Gaza. Those tunnels nullify the effectiveness of high impact ordinance. There would need to be constant shelling until all are dead or starved or surrendered in order to take that area.

a reply to: dust2023

It has to stop. one day. all things must pass



posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: BiothermalReactor




Those tunnels nullify the effectiveness of high impact ordinance. There would need to be constant shelling until all are dead or starved or surrendered in order to take that area.


Those TOS-1 thermobaric tracked vehicles are nightmare fuel though.
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posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Imhere

It seems like the time is due for ET the Aliens and God to show up in Ukraine and zap all to hell. First we have mumbles as President aka plausible deniability and second the USA has been pushing the Alien card in Congressional hearings in that "we dont know what they are".

Bullsheep. Robert Lazar filmed them near Area 51 in the desert in 1989. Same stuff as filmed off Cleveland over Lake Erie by Michael Lee Hill and witnessed by me and several others since 2018 over the North Georgia - South Carolina border. So have other OPS on ATSvwho live here.

Good one USA. Now go wipe them Russian commies off the map with HAMAS and Iran next on deck.

Then you need to Alien ET abduct the Michigan Congresswoman and insert several probes to make her into a kindler, gentler human being. Assuming its at all possible.

Blame it all on ET the Alien and GOD.

Live long and Prosper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Imhere

Got a source for your quote, please?



posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 11:12 AM
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It does appear that the Ukraine will fall in a matter of time. There are talks of "peace talks". Coming from the Biden crime family I would assume. God I detest Joe Biden. As I and many others predicted, he will go down as the worse president in history. It was just so obvious he is an idiot. And he always has been.

Interesting read:

simplicius76.substack.com...

Seems like Zelensky's days are not long.
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posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Imhere
Concrete fortress, impregnable, years building the fortifications???? Where have I heard that before? Oh yes, it was called The Maginot line, didn't go too well for that.



posted on Nov, 12 2023 @ 01:45 PM
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38 million vs 143 million the end result was always guaranteed.

but even if a peace deal occurs and russia keeps the annexed territories, this has been an unmitigated disaster for russia, their gear has faced western gear and been found wanting, training has been non-existent, and production capabilities have been exposed.

if their population was remotely equal russia would have no chance, this was the last time frame russia could throw bodies at a problem and the fact they havent changed their tactics since about ww1 does not bode well for future russian conflicts.



posted on Nov, 13 2023 @ 11:13 PM
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....because Russia always deploys their best equipment to the front lines first.



posted on Nov, 21 2023 @ 05:25 AM
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Situation ok
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posted on Nov, 21 2023 @ 04:07 PM
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so a year of being slowly pushed back looking foolish isnt a good enough reason to send your best equipment?

Besides a variety of reports showing the best gear russia has being turned into scrap...



posted on Nov, 21 2023 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: 777Vader

so a year of being slowly pushed back looking foolish isnt a good enough reason to send your best equipment?

Besides a variety of reports showing the best gear russia has being turned into scrap...


Whatever NATO sends to Ukraine is ending up in museums in Russia.

Difference is, Ukraine is getting demilitarized at the end of the day.

Back on topic. Russia continues advancing in Avdiika.

The highways of death (Ukrainian supply lines) have appeared.

Similar to the stages in Bahkmut.



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posted on Nov, 21 2023 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: Imhere

How full of hate for Ukraine can you get? Whilst glorifying Putin's sad little war?



posted on Nov, 21 2023 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
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How full of hate for Ukraine can you get? Whilst glorifying Putin's sad little war?


This is coming from someone who defended Nazi Stephan Bandera. And the regime that celebrates and glorifies it nationally annually.

Even Poland got vocal and warned Zelensky about it and to the blind supporters that walk into it.

Nice try with the 2bit accusation that I hate Ukraine as a whole.

Look at Kiev. It’s practically untouched. Especially compared to what Israel is doing to Gaza.

All the missiles, bombs and daggers that fell, could have went directly on Kiev.

Theres a reason for that. Because it’s not the focus. The focus is on demilitarization and grinding it down.

There’s a fortress line in the east that’s dotted with highly industrialized areas that’s suitable for defensive fortifications that have been set up over the years.

Once that breaks, then it opens up going forward.

My thing is there’s so much disinformation and from MSM etc that’s constantly deflecting from what’s actually going on.

I mentioned Bahkmut months ago how it is one of the key cities in the east that’s going to fall (which it did) And you brushed it off and said it’s “worthless” and just a pyrrhic victory.

You probably wouldn’t even know about Avdiika if it wasn’t mentioned here. And bet you’ll brush that off too once it falls.

I welcome to hear news about significant advances from Ukrainian side as well. When verified. But it’s not going on.

The constant billion dollar packages and bs from MSM isn’t fooling anybody. Look how quickly the attention suddenly shifts like with Gaza.

Remember the pandemic? Then boom msm switched full on Ukraine. Apparently millions of people fleeing in airports etc with no masks huddled in lines and groups. And no outlash at all and it all fizzled out from there.

Not to mention the gem from weeks ago with the Canadian prime minister celebrating a Nazi veteran with Zelensky that left Canada embarrassed and which he had to apologize afterwards.



Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau formally apologized on behalf of Canada’s parliament Wednesday, referring to the “deeply embarrassing” incident last week that saw the chamber applaud a Ukrainian veteran who fought for a Nazi military unit during World War II.

“This was a mistake that has deeply embarrassed parliament and Canada. All of us who were in this House on Friday regret deeply having stood and clapped, even though we did so unaware of the context,” said Trudeau in a media briefing in Ottawa Wednesday.

Trudeau also recognized diplomatic damage done to the visiting Ukrainian delegation in attendance that day, which included Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.







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