Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

They wouldn't admit it because they let it lose on purpose. It's that simple. If they admit it came from the lab, then more questions will come. You never admit the first question, you never get to the next.

> gain on function loses regulation under Trump admin

> COVID happens

> US spend largest amount in shortest amount of time

> Trump fast tracks vaccine and protects companies from lawsuits. Oh, we also buy more than enough for every citizen with promises for boosters.

It’s all the democrats fault.

Makes sense.

The dems suck too. I don’t vote for them. But this memoirs hole stuff is getting out of control. I was there, no one has high ground on this.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Also, wasn't the pandemic response action plan, developed under the Obama administration, one if the first things "tossed out" under the following administration?

And that occurred just prior to the initial outbreak in China.

I remember commenting on the looming danger to the US back in January 2020 when the illness that would be known as COVID19 was raising discussions on ATS due to reports coming out of China about "drastic measures " taken by Chinese authorities to isolate some kind of (at the time) "unknown virus".

This was right before Chinese New Year, and I had noted the risk associated with a large celebration to take place in San Francisco.

The administration, at that time, downplayed any risk to US citizens, and did little to nothing to ban travel from Asia.


If COVID19 was actually intended, or accidentally released, as a "bioweapon", wouldn't those in power in the government, at the time have known of the risk it posed to the country (especially if the US had had any sort of hand developing it as such), and immediately acted to protect its citizens.

It could have easily been done without disclosing the bio-weapon nature of the virus, and thus mitigating any potential public panic.


But they did not.

a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

If I'm not mistaken this was a US funded venture that was moved to China for reasons xyz.

If they're going to blame it on China, they would do so to further foment tensions when it's already clear to most people that they are moving towards open conflict

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Ksihkehe

There must only be a few (guilt-ridden) people in the Intel community who are aware of what really happened. There's no way a huge secret like this could be kept buried if hundreds of employees know the truth.

This huge secret has been known about for a long while, yet until now you must have been ignorant of it. TPTB don’t share your sense of patriotism, they a globalists.

More than likely, one of the US Intelligence Agency’s funded the research through the Wuhan lab. At some point it was released into the population. Perhaps by accident, perhaps on purpose.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Superb reasoning and possibly true. However.....

I've said from day 1 that it was a bioweapon from China. Even my relatives laughed at me. I should send them all copies of the articles that Congress has found that this is true.

However, I think it is a bioweapon designed mainly to kill the elderly and infirm, the "useless eaters" as the liberals like to refer to them as. Because the declining birth rate, especially in China and developing nations has left an excess of elderly getting promised retirement benefits, costing too much. This was seen as a way to get rid of them without out and out genocide which people would revolt, killing grandma and grandpa and the infirm on purpose. The few young dying were considered acceptable collateral damage by the virus creators. However, the virus seems to be doing something the creators didn't expect and increase overall mortality after infection through what mechanism, we don't know.

I think my reasoning is sound.

Look at the unfettered immigration encouraged by the Biden administration. Basically stealing young people from poor nations to prop up our social security and work menial jobs that citizens don't want to do and require young strong people. Notice the reports that social security is in better shape lately? #1 Help fund a virus to kill mostly those on SS. #2 Then exploit illegals, they get fake SS#'s to work, pay into the system through their jobs, but when elderly or infirm will be unable to use the benefits. Further exploiting this population, on purpose, encouraging them to come, on purpose - to take their money and give none back. Devious, but I think exactly what is happening, and this is known by politicians getting rich off their backs, while taking credit for social security staying solvent (but lying about why).

a reply to: Mantiss2021

The government knew the risks.

Look at their stock trades before it was an “official concern”.

I just can’t extrapolate if they were buying time, trying to keep people calm while they deliberated in the background, or if they were nefarious.

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Superb reasoning and possibly true. However.....

I've said from day 1 that it was a bioweapon from China. Even my relatives laughed at me. I should send them all copies of the articles that Congress has found that this is true.

Could you send them to me. I haven't seen any.

However, I think it is a bioweapon designed mainly to kill the elderly and infirm

It would be a failure as such a targetted bioweapon.

COVID's CFR, even among the elderly with comorbidities, is around 2%. There's pathogens that have been around for more than a century that have a far greater lethality and don't require any money spent on development.

, the "useless eaters" as the liberals like to refer to them as

The Nazi's introduced that term. It is quite specifically a right-wing extremist term, used as a slight, that the right-wing accuse the left of saying.

The left and socialists want to introduce nanny states that care for all of society, regardless of income earning capability - in fact specifically despite income earning capability.

. Because the declining birth rate, especially in China and developing nations has left an excess of elderly getting promised retirement benefits, costing too much. This was seen as a way to get rid of them without out and out genocide which people would revolt, killing grandma and grandpa and the infirm on purpose. The few young dying were considered acceptable collateral damage by the virus creators. However, the virus seems to be doing something the creators didn't expect and increase overall mortality after infection through what mechanism, we don't know.

But even with the deaths we have seen, the percentage of the elderly has not changed significantly in any country. And the governments of most countries have implemented practices and policies that are protective against the disease and are contrary to any attempt to cause significant deaths in the demographic.

I think my reasoning is sound.

You did not originate any of these ideas it is not your reasoning. Lots of right-wing pundits are saying exactly the same thing. These ideas have been all over social media and right-leaning websites for more than a year.

Look at the unfettered immigration encouraged by the Biden administration. Basically stealing young people from poor nations to prop up our social security and work menial jobs that citizens don't want to do and require young strong people.

Ah, the 'replacement' ideology.

Let's say that over the last decade, 11 million people have entered the country over the Southern border that is a rate of 1.1 million per year. There are 330 million people in the US, so that leaves 319 million Americans still to be 'replaced'. At a rate of 1.1 million per year, that would take 290 years, roughly equivalent to 11.6 generations. So much for the 'replacement' nonsense.

However, nearly everyone with money or political power behind them in the USA is an immigrant. There are very few first nation people with significant money and political power. America was made by immigration.

Notice the reports that social security is in better shape lately? #1 Help fund a virus to kill mostly those on SS. #2 Then exploit illegals, they get fake SS#'s to work, pay into the system through their jobs, but when elderly or infirm will be unable to use the benefits. Further exploiting this population, on purpose, encouraging them to come, on purpose - to take their money and give none back. Devious, but I think exactly what is happening, and this is known by politicians getting rich off their backs, while taking credit for social security staying solvent (but lying about why).

It probably is happening. But the thing is, there are probably lots of right-wing extremists trying to game the situation, and who are at cause.

The stated cause of many recent American far-right-wing groups like The Base, Proud Boys, and Boogaloo, are to foment race war and destroy the system, so they can attain power through force of arms and set-up a tyranny of their own. That isn't patriotism.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Technically the SARS program precedes Trump, going back to the Bush administration and continuing through both of Obama's terms. Trump merely inherited it.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Technically the SARS program precedes Trump, going back to the Bush administration and continuing through both of Obama's terms. Trump merely inherited it.

And removed any blocks to its implementation. And did little to stop it, when it finally happened. And pushed the idea of mass vaccinations.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Technically the SARS program precedes Trump, going back to the Bush administration and continuing through both of Obama's terms. Trump merely inherited it.

And removed any blocks to its implementation. And did little to stop it, when it finally happened. And pushed the idea of mass vaccinations.

Just like any President would have . So whats your point ?

What the heck does Trump know about Viruses or Vaccines or any of it ? He was simply doing what the " Experts" told him to do .

The only people who Actually knew what was going on were Anthony Fauci and the NIH and the CDC and other Medical Professionals , They Knew everything and still made Terrible decision after terrible decision .

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Why Would U.S. Intelligence Not Admit Covid-19 Resulted from China Bio-Weapon Experiments.

because they couldn't / can't find a way to pin it on the bad orange man.

Technically the SARS program precedes Trump, going back to the Bush administration and continuing through both of Obama's terms. Trump merely inherited it.

And removed any blocks to its implementation. And did little to stop it, when it finally happened. And pushed the idea of mass vaccinations.

Just like any President would have . So whats your point ?

No, Trump acted contrary to what his advisors were telling him.

What the heck does Trump know about Viruses or Vaccines or any of it ? He was simply doing what the " Experts" told him to do.

He sure made claims for a lot of things that others achieved. I'm fairly sure, however, that he knew less about such topics than the average American.

The only people who Actually knew what was going on were Anthony Fauci and the NIH and the CDC and other Medical Professionals , They Knew everything and still made Terrible decision after terrible decision .

No, lots of people have a rudimentary knowledge of biology and science, sufficient to know what was going on. And, it was all over the news media, and you could talk to any doctor for advice.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: carewemust

WHY is the Democrat House, Democrat Senate, ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN-MSNBC-NYTimes-WaPo-HuffPo-RawStory, and other Democrat/Liberal-owned News Agencies only slightly interested in getting to the bottom of Covid-19's origins?

Isn't it obvious? Because it means they are hypocrites at best and at worst, accessories to terrorism. Blood on their hands and bodies in their basements. And they lied about it for years, not just to us but the whole world.

protecting the CIA
since Dallas 1963.

a reply to: chr0naut

No, Trump acted contrary to what his advisors were telling him.

Did he ? I'm pretty sure he and the Media did every little thing Anthony Fauci said.

No, lots of people have a rudimentary knowledge of biology and science, sufficient to know what was going on. And, it was all over the news media, and you could talk to any doctor for advice.

Bull Sh*t and you know it . Any Doctor really ? I recall many many doctors being black balled for speaking out and not following the narrative .

Carefully worded narratives from the CDC and NIH were all over the news mate .

originally posted by: Dogo22
They wouldn't admit it because they let it lose on purpose. It's that simple. If they admit it came from the lab, then more questions will come. You never admit the first question, you never get to the next.

We will see how determined the new Congress is to learn what the Intelligence Community knows. The GOP wrote the report referenced in the Opening Post.

The GOP Report: republicans-intelligence.house.gov...

Republicans/GOP will be in charge of the investigations and the Intel Community's 2023/2024 budget. The I.C. had better play ball, or face a potential budget cut. (Fewer jets, parties, spy gadgets, etc..)

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BY THE WAY...DEMOCRATS in the U.S. House issued a report/findings on Covid-19's origins this week too.

As you can imagine, Democrats say "Covid-19 is Trump's fault!": www.cnn.com...

But thanks to WISE Americans removing them from power in the U.S. House of Representatives, the whiny Democrat's findings will be mostly ignored by the Republican majority.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

No, Trump acted contrary to what his advisors were telling him.

Did he ? I'm pretty sure he and the Media did every little thing Anthony Fauci said.

When did Fauci tell him to tell others to take HCQ and Ivermectin? Or kill the virus by "putting a light under the skin", or they should use disinfectant and sunlight to treat patients...

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

LOL.

No, lots of people have a rudimentary knowledge of biology and science, sufficient to know what was going on. And, it was all over the news media, and you could talk to any doctor for advice.

Bull Sh*t and you know it . Any Doctor really ? I recall many many doctors being black balled for speaking out and not following the narrative .

Carefully worded narratives from the CDC and NIH were all over the news mate .

Yeah, if you wanted to get carelessly worded stuff, you had to rely on social media and political 'spin' sites. But there was a lot more of that going on than any 'official' content on any media.

Except for Faux News. They had Hannity and Tucker - two of Trumps most trusted advisors!

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: chr0naut

No, Trump acted contrary to what his advisors were telling him.

Did he ? I'm pretty sure he and the Media did every little thing Anthony Fauci said.

No, lots of people have a rudimentary knowledge of biology and science, sufficient to know what was going on. And, it was all over the news media, and you could talk to any doctor for advice.

Bull Sh*t and you know it . Any Doctor really ? I recall many many doctors being black balled for speaking out and not following the narrative .

Carefully worded narratives from the CDC and NIH were all over the news mate .

Anthony Fauci even praised Trump, when the President was doing what Fauci advised him to do.

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originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: CriticalStinker

This was right before Chinese New Year, and I had noted the risk associated with a large celebration to take place in San Francisco.

The administration, at that time, downplayed any risk to US citizens, and did little to nothing to ban travel from Asia.


If COVID19 was actually intended, or accidentally released, as a "bioweapon", wouldn't those in power in the government, at the time have known of the risk it posed to the country (especially if the US had had any sort of hand developing it as such), and immediately acted to protect its citizens.

It could have easily been done without disclosing the bio-weapon nature of the virus, and thus mitigating any potential public panic.

But they did not.

NEW YORK officials ignored Covid-19 warnings out of the Trump administration on 1/31/2020, and told Chinese people to go out and celebrate the New Year, as usual. The Trump Admin was blowing things out of proportion.

ATS Thread on the subject: www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is also an ATS thread describing how Nancy Pelosi put out a communique in San Francisco telling the Chinese community to party as normal, because the Trump Administration was overblowing the seriousness of Covid-19.

(BTW...evidence will be presented showing Pelosi as an intentional spreader of Covid-19....in order to damage the economy, thereby damaging Trump's biggest domestic achievement. Evil whore.)

a reply to: chr0naut

When did Fauci tell him to tell others to take HCQ and Ivermectin? Or kill the virus by "putting a light under the skin", or they should use disinfectant and sunlight to treat patients...

LoL I knew you would bring that Light thing up ' so predictable you are mate '

You do realize the CDC and NIH are now officially supporting the use of Ivermectin to treat Covid-19 , mate you are operating off of old narratives .

you need to visit the Left meeting room and update yourself.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...