"Cremation of Care" ritual at Bohemian Grove, page 4
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reply posted on 16-4-2005 @ 08:48 PM by sebatwerk
Originally posted by nukunuku
we both know that there is no "evidence", that is why its a CONSPIRACY....i and othershave merely pointed to some facts that are known and documented and photographed and videotaped and in my PERSONAL opinion this kind of crap going on stinks....THATS ALL


But you made VERY SPECIFIC claims, AS FACT, that you have not yet proven. In a previous post you said that very important government and economic decisions are made at the grove:


This close-knit group determines whether prices rise or fall (by their control of the banking system, money supply, and markets), and they make money whichever way markets fluctuate. They determine what our rights are and which laws have effect, by appointing judges. They decide who our highest officials shall be by consensus among themselves, and then selling candidates to us via the media which they own. Important issues and facts are omitted from discussion in the press, or slanted to suit their goals, but they are discussed frankly at the Grove.


In another post, you again claimed that a lot of important stuff gets decided there, and that they arer also performing "freaky" rituals:


EXACTLY! They are not an official organ of government, yet a lot of evidence points to the conclusion, that a lot of really important stuff gets decided there and that these people are actually very different from what theyre selling to the public. I have nothing against them taking a breather from their "hard" and "demanding" lives to do some fishing, but again, evidence points in the way of a lot of freaky stuff going on here.


So what we are asking for is evidence of these veryu specific claims you stated as fact. Have you a transcript of what was said there? What was discussed? Or were you simply assuming and going off of heresay? This is all I am trying to show you... you can't claim something as being a fact if you do not indeed have proof for your claims.

I have nothing personal against you, I just think we should be a little more demanding of evidence in a forum where we strive to "Deny Ignorance".



reply posted on 16-4-2005 @ 09:54 PM by muzzleflash
you are a very poor disinformation agent (in case you are actually a disinfo)
you should be fired and i should be HIRED by your Employer as a replacement! lol

i could totally have convinced him that all this was hogwash; but you obviously cannot convince him. i can certainly lie better than you can anyday lol

he obviously made an interesting hypothesis; with few logical inconsistancys
hes/shes an intelligent person and he showed your inconsistancy as a disinformation agent plainly (if your not a disinfo agent than ignore this )

its hilarious
you should certainly be Fired (if your a disinfo, which u probably are)

first of all
you were suppost to debunk this "the world leaders went to this ritual"
you didnt debunk it
in fact you appear to almost accept it at face value
thats nuts dude

you should have said the ritual was faked and photoshopped ect...

you either are a bad disinfo agent or you are just blindly following the "pro-elitist " agenda
either way
the cats outta the bag

and um; being rich actually is a sin
according to the bible and jesus
and id wager that buddhist muslim hebrew hindu and all other major religious philosophys have statements to the similar
that "money is the Root of all Evil"
and that those who Lust for $$$ and Lust for Profits are Great Sinners

in fact if you wanna argue i WILL go and find you hundreds of passages devoted to this here subject
Materialism and its Detrimental Effects

since i have them on hand already; ill go ahead and hit you with a Bible verse and a parable ; im not religious myself , but all those Elitists publicly claim to be Christians
the Presidents all of them
and that Ritual isnt allowed in mainstream Christianity
ask any Catholic Baptist Methodist Luthern or any other group for that matter
they will scoff at that ritual there
they will call it "satanic"

when they say "satanic" they dont mean "Of the Church of Satan"
they mean it in a loosely term way
like "its bad natured" "its offensive" "if Satan existed; he participates in that Ritual also"
they say satanic as meaning very ugly, vile or negative

heres a Bible quote for you
"It's easier for a camel to pass
through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven"

also dont you remember that story from another part ; the scholars around will know which verse im speaking of

the Rich man came to jesus and asked 'how do i get into heaven' and jesus replyed 'give away all of your riches' ...
and basically the Rich man got sad and DIDNT give away his riches
he Chose Hell

hey its just religious texts; i am not a member of any religion but these types of religious things are echo'd in all major religions
they are teaching good vs evil
religion is about ethics

and they clearly define Lust for Riches and Desire to Profit as Negative or Sinful or Hurtful to Others


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