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A pregnant woman in Texas told police that her unborn child counted as an additional passenger after being cited for driving alone in a high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lane, offering up a potentially clever defense for motorists navigating the legal landscape following the supreme court’s striking down of nationwide abortion rights last month.
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
“[The officer] starts peeking around. He’s like, ‘Is it just you?’ And I said, ‘No there’s two of us?’” Bottone recounted to NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth. “And he said, ‘Well where’s the other person?’ And I went, ‘Right here,’” pointing to her stomach.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
Good try...
HOV lane is for at least two drivers or bus, not just one other person unless you are suggesting her unborn had a drivers license. Its purpose is to create ridesharing, not a lane for mom and her kids.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
A pregnant woman in Texas told police that her unborn child counted as an additional passenger after being cited for driving alone in a high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lane, offering up a potentially clever defense for motorists navigating the legal landscape following the supreme court’s striking down of nationwide abortion rights last month.
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
“[The officer] starts peeking around. He’s like, ‘Is it just you?’ And I said, ‘No there’s two of us?’” Bottone recounted to NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth. “And he said, ‘Well where’s the other person?’ And I went, ‘Right here,’” pointing to her stomach.
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And so it begins. Anyone with even half a brain could see there would be unintended consequences when states started passing laws that codified life starting at conception. And this is just the start.
It's only a matter of time before cases are brought forward where a pregnant woman tries to declare her unborn child as a dependent, or demands child support, or tries to take out a life insurance policy on the fetus.
So let's see if states like Texas actually believe life starts at conception or if that principle flies out the window the second money is on the line.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It's only a matter of time before cases are brought forward where a pregnant woman tries to declare her unborn child as a dependent, or demands child support, or tries to take out a life insurance policy on the fetus.
So let's see if states like Texas actually believe life starts at conception or if that principle flies out the window the second money is on the line.
originally posted by: carewemust
So the 12 year old riding with you doesn't qualify as person #2?
What if your child is 22 years old and can't get a driver's license? (Disabled)
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
Good try...
HOV lane is for at least two drivers or bus, not just one other person unless you are suggesting her unborn had a drivers license. Its purpose is to create ridesharing, not a lane for mom and her kids.
claiming an unborn fetus as a dependent
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Mantiss2021
claiming an unborn fetus as a dependent
A dependent has to have a birth certificate issued in their name .
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
Good try...
HOV lane is for at least two drivers or bus, not just one other person unless you are suggesting her unborn had a drivers license. Its purpose is to create ridesharing, not a lane for mom and her kids.
originally posted by: Mantiss2021
originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Mantiss2021
claiming an unborn fetus as a dependent
A dependent has to have a birth certificate issued in their name .
Which would presume, therefore, that from a legal standpoint, life, as determined by dependence upon another for its existence, does not begin until birth. As certified by the issuance of a Birth Certificate.
Which, of course, legally undercuts the argument that life begins at conception; which is the core argument against abortion.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Brandy Bottone of Plano, Texas, tried to fight a ticket for driving with only one passenger in an HOV lane – which requires at least two people in the car – by arguing that her unborn baby should count as her second passenger.
Good try...
HOV lane is for at least two drivers or bus, not just one other person unless you are suggesting her unborn had a drivers license. Its purpose is to create ridesharing, not a lane for mom and her kids.