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reply posted on 31-8-2002 @ 09:59 PM by R. Daneel Olivaw
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Thank you.
Fascinating. There more I see this, and the longer I study such incidents in societal history, the more I learnÖ there is much to learn.
Human society can be exceptionally predictable. This current period of uncertainty immediately follows a period of relative prosperity. A cycle that
Iím sure youíve observed is oft repeated. These emergent personalities are not part of the prosperity. For some reason, they miss out on what the rest
of society enjoys, and foster bitter resentment. Racial hatred, such as seen in Brian and Ycon, finds fertile soil in such mental instability.
These two were not part of the previous economic success. They felt betrayed by a society that should have included them in its success. As the
economy cycled into its predictable down-turn, these two found each other and emerged to tell society how terrible it is that it left them out of the
party.
Examine any known historical despot and you will find a similar, if not identical, cause-and-effect.
RDO
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 03:34 AM by Ycon
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Toltec, now I am a wicked witch?
Anyway have fun calling me names, I simply don't care.
Here is link to a page I thought some of you may enjoy reading
www.lightforthelastdays.co.uk...
PRINCE CHARLES & ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 05:13 AM by ultra_phoenix
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Originally posted by R. Daneel Olivaw
Racial hatred, such as seen in Brian and Ycon, finds fertile soil in such mental instability.RDO
See with the Democrat Party. They are worst.
www.frontpagemagazine.com...
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 01:01 PM by Ycon
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Here is what Brian sent me on the Santa case.
www.angelfire.com...
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Australian flag, based on English Union Jack, 1606 April 12 to Australian flag April 14th 1954 = 348 years = Hebrew 348 Jezebel and Greek anakopto to
hold back.
The word Jezebel in Ezekiel 24:24 has been mistranslated, as the name Ezekiel is replaced in Ezekiel 24:24 with Jezabel 348.
The verse reads:-
Thus Ezekiel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
In fact the verse should read:-
Thus Jezebel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
We look for the sign and it is the number 3168 being the Hebrew number for Ezekiel.
The flag itself translates to Edom, and Isaiah 63.
The Lord coming from Australia is what it means. We see that the verse 24:24 is the Greek number for Jesus 2424. while the number in Greek for Lord
is 800, Jesus 888 and Christ 1480 adds up to 3168.
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 03:55 PM by krossfyter
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this is great. funny. Its amazing how some people can be decieved. All they have to do is understand what Jesus said about other coming in his name or
false christs... etc. etc. This brian guy is exactly the kinda type Jesus wanred against.
funny.
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 08:05 PM by Toltec
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Connie in regards to the link attached in your last post you are kidding right?
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 08:22 PM by Ycon
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Toltec, when I asked Brian about the santa case and where it came from, he said he would ask his lawyer friend, but a hour later he sent that.
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reply posted on 1-9-2002 @ 08:39 PM by Toltec
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Connie that link is meant for ammusement, its a joke site.
Did you know that before you posted it?
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 12:14 AM by Byrd
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No, guys, it's not humor/spoof... but it's not real, either
It's a "teen court" case. They try imaginary cases to learn techniques of debate and logic and to learn about justice.
And the "breaking and entering" had nothing at all to do with "proof of Santa Claus"?
And Teen Courts are ONLY in America.
A question to think about: Why would someone's lawyer direct you to a "fictional trial" document for American teenagers -- instead of to
newspaper articles or a link to that case in the Australian law database?
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 01:05 AM by MidnightDStroyer
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This is nothing more than a "mock trial" performed by students (note the "nationalteen" in the URL) for the purpose of education. I did this in
high school as an exercise in judicial procedure as part of class-work & even professional lawyers will occasionally perform such "trials" to
entertain/educate the public in courtroom procedures.
Originally posted by Ycon
Australian flag, based on English Union Jack, 1606 April 12 to Australian flag April 14th 1954 = 348 years = Hebrew 348 Jezebel and Greek anakopto to
hold back.
Anonther example of Brian's shady numerology. Literally *anyone* can use any kind of numbering system to "prove" any kind of point they want. Brian
is no exception & still can't justify his numerology as any kind of proof.
Originally posted by Ycon
The word Jezebel in Ezekiel 24:24 has been mistranslated, as the name Ezekiel is replaced in Ezekiel 24:24 with Jezabel 348.
The verse reads:-
Thus Ezekiel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
In fact the verse should read:-
Thus Jezebel is unto you a sign: according to all that he hath done shall ye do: and when this cometh, ye shall know that I am the Lord
GOD.
So now Brian is re-writing the Bible? It's nice to know that he still hasn't been able to prove himself as worthy enough to do so. For that matter,
I couldn't re-write the Bible myself...But I'm not enough of a conman to convince anyone of my "authorization" to. Does Brian *have* such
authorization? Can he back up that "authorization" with anything more than "his word" that he would be *correct* in re-writing the Bible? The only
knowledge of scriptures that he's (so far) been able to provide has been proven faulty already...So I'm not inclined to take his "word" on any
more such discrepencies without some hard evidence to back up his "authority".
Originally posted by Ycon
We look for the sign and it is the number 3168 being the Hebrew number for Ezekiel.
The flag itself translates to Edom, and Isaiah 63.
The Lord coming from Australia is what it means. We see that the verse 24:24 is the Greek number for Jesus 2424. while the number in Greek for Lord
is 800, Jesus 888 and Christ 1480 adds up to 3168.
Someone who uses such shady numerology as such a crutch is bound to be shown up for the conman he *is*. I just hope you wake up to it before you get
dragged down with him as an accomplice, Ycon.
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 01:20 AM by Ycon
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MDS, the bible was translated wrong, not Brian changing it
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 01:31 AM by Byrd
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Are we reading the same versions of the Bible?
Another point of curiosity, given the statement of Brian about Ezekiel 24:24.
You see, in MY Bibles, the entire book of Ezekiel is the words set down by Ezekiel wherein God rants at various things. In Chapter 24, he's ranting
about Babylon picking on Jerusalem.
The point of chapter 24 is that Jehovah is going to whap the heck out of Babylon and *Ezekiel* is the sign that God's gonna lay down the big hammer.
This rant is directed to the Babylonians (the "rebellious house...and Ezekiel says this VERY plainly in the first verse of that chapter), not the
Jews, and is delivered with a parable.
"Jezebel" makes no sense in the context of the chapter or the book. Kings (wherein Jezebel is discussed) was written about 900 BC. Ezekiel comes
from Babylon, in the year 500 BC - at a time when the book of Kings wasn't part of the Bible. Now, while the Jews might have known and found the
mention of Jezebel rather threatening, BABYLON (to whom the warnings and threats are being given) would have *NO Clue* who Jezebel was or why they
should care about Jezebel.
It's like saying "Because Mikey got himself killed driving around on that motorcycle, you will obey my commands to clean the house before I am
satisfied!"
Jezebel's sin (she and her husband had some Jewish prophets killed and Jehovah wanted someone else for king) was MUCH different than the Babylonian
king (land grab and slavery. The Jews were slaves to Babylon because Jehovah was punishing them.)
Unless you've got a version of the Book of Ezekiel wherein Ezekiel is ranting at the Jews and this chapter somehow is relating to the Jews
shunning/stoning/driving away Jehovah's prophets, substituting "Ezekiel" with "Jezebel" just doesn't make a lick of sense.
[Edited on 2-9-2002 by Byrd]
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 02:30 AM by MidnightDStroyer
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Originally posted by Ycon
MDS, the bible was translated wrong, not Brian changing it
Parson my skepticism, but I'd like to see Brian's qualifications for being capable of reading the original Hebrew, Greek & Latin texts before I'll
believe that he's the one qualified to make the judgment of what "mistakes" are in the translations of the Bible. Does he have a complete &
unaltered set of the Dead Sea Scrolls in his possession? I'd like to see proof of that too. It would be an even more unbelievable lie if Brian tried
to tell us that his scrolls are actually *intact* & not suffering from certain portions of them being illegible due to aging.
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 07:07 PM by Ycon
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You all will be happy to know, that Brian search the santa case and saw that url and sent it, he said he didn't look at the page.
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Here laugh it off, hope your speakers are turned up.
www.joecartoon.com...
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 08:00 PM by R. Daneel Olivaw
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Ycon (I assume you are female, judging by the nature of the responses you've received)
This person, as I've mentioned, is nothing more than a fake, and a poor one at that.
It is a sign of stressful times, that people such as this attempt to make themselves known.
Here is a test you should consider trying. Send him a very simple message saying you no longer believe in him, and will not be part of his mission
from this point further. His response will indicate his true sincerity. If he responds by thanking you for your participation up to this point, and
wishing you well, he is at least well intended.
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 08:01 PM by Netchicken
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teen court
connie you didn't do your case any good quoting that page for the santa trial ...
"Teen court" is hardly an authoratative source especially with the pics of aliens and animals on the page
I love Biran, he's a true fruitloop
I feel sorry for Charles, hard enough being laughed at for talking to plants let alone being acused of being the antichrist
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 08:07 PM by William One Sac
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Maybe Brian is citing that particular case as proof of Santa Clause?
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 08:50 PM by Thomas Crowne
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The son of Gawd goes to joecartoon.com? LOL!!
Come on, Olivaw, the nutbag has, what, two, maybe 4 followers? Sociologically speaking, he's pretty harmless - except maybe his poisoned water.
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 09:05 PM by R. Daneel Olivaw
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Indeed Mr. Crowne. This Brian person is decidedly unstable. However, we have certainly seen the effects such a person can achieve in a chain reaction
of responses from weak believers.
My comment was directed at Ycon (Connie?) as a means for her to consider the reality of Brian.
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reply posted on 2-9-2002 @ 09:55 PM by Byrd
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A further search of legal resources didn't turn up any "Santa Claus"/"Santa Clause" cases other than the ones I found.
Proof's in the pudding. If he sent those letters to the media and the senators, both the media and the senators will start checking to see if
there's such a law. If there IS such a case and such a precedence, the media will be hammering on his door shortly and we'll see newspaper stories
about it crop up on Reuters and Yahoo and other major news sites.
If there's no such case, then it will be ignored or laughed at... in either case, no media attention.
BTW, for the conspiracy buffs, there is no way such a law could be "erased." Cases are built on other cases and rulings, and it would have been
cited in other cases. You could TRY to make the original disappear, but the first time a prosecuting attorney found a note to a case that was erased,
the attorney (and their firm) would raise a scream that you could hear from New Zealand to Siberia.
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