Byrd, do you really think Brian would put all the time and money into the miracle water if it didn't work? I'm sure hes spent near 15,000. There are already many taking it and he is getting postive feedback.


Someday in the near future, you may start to hear rumors of a miracle man healing people in australia.

"do you really think Brian would put all the time and money into the miracle water if it didn't work?"

of course it works, if by the term "works" you mean has the ability to dupe dumb yanks out of their hard earned cash by running one of the oldest american cons, that being peddeling miracle cures out the back of a van.

Connie, yes, I believe he'd put that money into the van... and it's not THAT much. He needs transportation. Heck, I just sunk the same amount of money into a used car, myself.

There's a "cause and effect" that's not being met, here. Buying a vehicle only means that he wanted or needed the vehicle.

It doesn't prove that the water works or that he has a license to sell it or that the Aussie Health Department won't come down on his head like a heap of bricks and accuse him of selling "snake oil."

A van will not impress the scientists who will be asked to review the water to see if he can sell it as anything BUT plain old H2O. And the minute it's broadcast that he's selling water as a drug/curative/whatever, you can rest assured that there'll be a lot of fraud-hunters on him. If his water can't pass a James Randi test, it sure won't pass their tests.

(Real cures don't require belief. Pennicillin works whether or not you believe in it. Surgical correction of shattered bones works whether or not you think the cause was evil spirits or a bad fall.)

As to the email, it's not the CIA. Tear open the headers and you'll see it's a prankster (someone who knew you were setting this up... perhaps someone in chat) and that they've just done a VERY elementary hacking trick... in fact, this is one of the first things a hacker learns. It's called "munging headers."

If the CIA wanted you, they'd simply get you. Playing mind games is a stupid waste of time and gets the target nervous. The cops don't call up drug dealers before raids and go "hey, guess what's going to happen to you -- neener-neener!" The FBI doesn't call up suspected spies and breathe heavily into their phones or send strange messages. This corrputs the trail of evidence and leaves the agency open for a charge of harrassment and will destroy their case.

That email's from a twinkie.

Byrd, no no no he didn't spend all that money on the truck, he had the truck and added the printing on the sides. I was talking the money he spent on the building, signs, construction, rent and eguiptment for making the water.

Like I said he is trying to get there attention so he can get in court, he must have something up his sleeve.

I now make a prediction:

Whatever Brian may have "up his sleeve" is not going to be enough & his sleeve will be a regular-issue prison-inmate shirt.

Well, he'll get into court pretty soon, Connie, simply by selling the water and announcing what it cures. You see, the courts and the medical profession are going to demand the same sort of "proof" in Randi's test (which is why I suggested the million dollar challenge). That's called a "double-blind" test and it's the standard in all medical drug approval.

That's how we know that Viagra works for erectile dysfunction -- and that Viagra is NOT a cure for bronchitis.

They aren't going to care who he claims he is. And if he spouts off with some of his well-known inaccuracies (like the date of Rosh Hashana being September 11th and that no Jews were killed in the attack on the WTC (in spite of proof to the contrary) and the laws derived from the movie, "Miracle on 34th Street"), his credibility will be completely destroyed.

The historical Jesus was smart enough and knowledgeable enough about the world that at the age of 6 or 8 he was able to amaze the scholars of the temple. Brian's inaccuracies are quite amazing (his not being able to correctly add the diameter of the earth together with the diameter of the moon was a rather striking example, I thought) -- but so far, scholars have only been amazed that someone living in the 21st century could get simple measurements and science so wrong!

I have a rather hard time trying to imagine him with an AIDS clinic, after seeing him refer to gay people as "homos" and "fags" and other less complementary terms.

I take it he's not planning on offering the water to just anyone?

connie- is it that easy to deceive you? could i too, show you a picture of a van, tell you about some miracle water, and rant some numbers off to you and attatch some meaningless importance to them so you would idolize me as well? think of what you are doing... rationalize here...like i have told you before, i know my stuff when it comes to naturopathic remedies.. this stuff is sold in health food stores.. so, it is very possible that i could start my own business marketing such water without claiming to be anyone of importance.....what brian is doing is believing he is jesus and taking it as far as he can... what does sending pictures and ranting numbers have to do with anything? and seriously, think about what byrd said- for such a "holy" man trying to cure AIDS, why does he go around using such derogotory words such as "fag" and "homo"? if anything, he just seems to be a cruel person.. he is trying to get away with a certain persona and forgetting what goes along with that.. his true colors ring through everytime he writes...he is not peaceful, nor loving...you, on the other hand, are this trusting, naive woman seeing the good in everyone.. maybe you could teach your buddy a thing or two.. but, i think the reason we all continue to these threads with you is because we don't want to see you get sucked in...listen, we are all a little nutty, right? we are members of this board, so we believe a some wierd sh-t that a lot of people don't, but we see that you continue to support this character and endorse him.. and not a single one of us has seen any truth to his story.. and, i have to admit, at first, i was pretty intrigued and thought "who knows?" i gave this little deal the benefit of the doubt as i do with all things, but there is just too much doubt.. way, way too much, girlfriend... step back-

I just want to warn you ycon that by keep posting about
this man and rbinging him up you engage in the misleading and destruction
of souls looking form something to believe.

You """will""" give an account of what your doing.


peace.

Brian sure makes some pretty hilarious assumptions in that email...

Firstly, he is assuming that fake mailing can only be done by government agencies? Its pretty much the oldest trick in the book, in every book. Secondly, his neighbours are 'fed-like' in appearance? And they rang him up to let him know he is being watched? Does it not occur to him that this is really a strange way for a secretive agency to operate? Is it not more likely that its either a creation of his warped mind, or someone messing with him? Hell, I'm starting to think I should give brian a few weird phone calls and see how he reports them to you.

Connie, basically what he is saying in that email is he thinks (for no good reason) that the government is spending time and resources monitoring a con man who makes fake miracle water.

Delusions of grandeur perhaps?

if all is true"miracle water"" then help those poor farmers save their animals from dying of drought stricken land....

Helen, Hello how have you been? Yes the Miracle Water is for real and you will be happy to know that one of Brians biggest orders right now is for the cows that produce Milk. Appearantly they have been using penicillian and now it is becoming ineffective not only for the cows but it is also going into humans through Milk.

Originally posted by Ycon
Helen, Hello how have you been? Yes the Miracle Water is for real and you will be happy to know that one of Brians biggest orders right now is for the cows that produce Milk. Appearantly they have been using penicillian and now it is becoming ineffective not only for the cows but it is also going into humans through Milk.

hi,connie!

That was brilliant Byrd. Absolutely, the way you delivered it was astounding. Your deductive reasoning has led me to question several other popular reasons for using miracle water, and how much it would cost. For example, how much would it cost to water my lawn with miracle water? Wouldnt it be better to have miracle grass in my front and back yards?

Damn Byrd beating me to the punch

Connie, Brian is completely talking out his backdoor if that is what he is telling you. Grow up and analyze what he tells you before stupidly reposting it here and making yourself look like more of an idiot.

Think for yourself for crying out loud.

And yes Willy, I'm currently in the process of ordering my miracle pool, and miracle ice skating rink..

I have discovered that dairy cows are given a virus in an immunization shot, that later deverlops mastisice and requires a daily shot of penacilin.

the milk has to be stored for several days, stored in stainless steel tank to leech out penacillian

but the water molecule remembers the cows dna instruction, and children drinking milk, retain the same molecule information and become allergic to penacillian.

I am sending test kits to New Zealand where the best milk is produced and it is also infected. A lady friend of mine is taking samples to New Zealand next week.

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The order is for 1300 litres of MW a day