Supplying Ukraine with weapons is only making things worse.... we need diplomatic solutions.

a reply to: Gothmog

To be fair, it started in 1991/92 with the dissolution of the USSR and the constant shift between pro Russian and Pro American governments since.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Strange how the media declares this situation started in 2022 .
The situation started in 2014-2015 with multiple calls for diplomatic talks between the two involved parties . One rejected all offers mostly fueled by a certain major Western country .

Maybe that was how the "Big Guy" was earning his 10%?

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: Gothmog
Strange how the media declares this situation started in 2022 .
The situation started in 2014-2015 with multiple calls for diplomatic talks between the two involved parties . One rejected all offers mostly fueled by a certain major Western country .

Maybe that was how the "Big Guy" was earning his 10%?

Good question .

originally posted by: GAOTU789
a reply to: Gothmog

To be fair, it started in 1991/92 with the dissolution of the USSR and the constant shift between pro Russian and Pro American governments since.

But that was a rather diplomatic time .

a reply to: ISeekTruth101

I hope we didn't give Ukraine anything that could strike Russia. It would seem in a "war" both sides hit each other.

a reply to: ISeekTruth101
It's better that before any politician sworn into the presidentcy they get a peer reviewed psychological evaluation than this wouldn't have happened

originally posted by: VariableConstant
a reply to: nugget1

It's painfully clear that- once again -the US wants war at any cost, not peace.

We've had every opportunity to step fully in to this war. We have not done so, showing incredible restraint.

If we wanted a war, we'd already be in it.

So the only remaining question is: what in the hell are you even talking about?

A certain western country has had its hand in practically all conflicts in the last 70 years. This one is no different.

Serbia fans mock US military interventions

War is good and profitable.

Hate to break it to you but things are going to get worse regardless of what action, or inaction we take because the fact is that the money changers and world slave masters are vying for power.

The only outcome is going to be world War because that's what they have planned. We don't matter to them no more than a bug that hits a windshield. We are pawns for their plans, plain and simple and we better start standing up against all the world leaders because none of them are good.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

I hope we didn't give Ukraine anything that could strike Russia. It would seem in a "war" both sides hit each other.

Wish it were true for some other nations out there, hitting each other. There is one galavanting around doing all sorts

Globalist do not want a diplomatic solution. They want war, they want any leader that believes in Nationalism (putting their country first) out. They want their stooges in the highest places.
This is the ONLY way to bring about the 'Great Reset' and begin to "Build Back Better".

Think about it.....

Do you believe Donald Trump was a terrible President, that he harmed America in such a way as the media and many life long politicians, on both sides, painted the picture of him doing?

It wasn't Trump they hated personally, it was the Idea of MAGA that scared them witless.

I didn't see it to begin with and didn't vote for him in 2016. I did in 2020.

When it can be shown that the media/Hollywood were weaponized, lied, edited video/audio, and ran him through the mud everyday for 4.5 years and when career politicians, on both side of the isle, were scared of him because he was "not one of them" and impeach (and try to impeach, multiple times) then maybe.......Just maybe, Trump wasn't the problem, Globalist were.
Killery was supposed to win in 2016. They suffered a 4 year setback and they are now kicking their plan into overdrive to catch up.

originally posted by: VariableConstant
a reply to: nugget1

It's painfully clear that- once again -the US wants war at any cost, not peace.

We've had every opportunity to step fully in to this war. We have not done so, showing incredible restraint.

If we wanted a war, we'd already be in it.

So the only remaining question is: what in the hell are you even talking about?

If you weren't swallowing the MSM version of everything that's happening you'd know exactly what I was talking about. Since you want only facts that are filtered through the 'official' narrative, I won't bore you with any information you'd most likely instantly poo-poo.
The information is out there and if you sincerely wish to know, and it's easy to find.

a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Where were you for the past eight years when Russia was supplying separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk with troops and weapons?

Without Putin's intervention there, the Ukrainian civil war would have ended by now and Putin would have had to come up with another excuse to invade Ukraine.

originally posted by: nugget1
Everybody says Putin is a crazy madman. Our POTUS calling him a cold-blooded killer at the start of this doesn't seem like the most diplomatic way to deal with a madman.
It's painfully clear that- once again -the US wants war at any cost, not peace.

Yes, as we've known for many years, the Military Industrial Complex controls the federal government.

a reply to: Gothmog

Much more so than today that's for sure.

Indeed. Not this war criminal nonsense.

www.nytimes.com...

They should look back to WW2 to see what actual war crimes looked like. And better be careful throwing stones in a glass house, Biden's slaughter of 10 civilians happened. Most were children.

interesting condemnation of 'other-than-Russia'

www.lewrockwell.com...

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Putin already came out with new excuses for the invasion like bio labs, Ukraine corruption, the elite, and Nazis. What's scary is so many on this website ate that crap up.

a reply to: Quadrivium

Well Trump himself said the other day when he called in to Fox, that he would send help or assistance, or planes. I think?

'There’s this discussion about whether we should send jets, MiG jets to help the Ukrainian Air Force. Would you send in that kind of help?' the host asked, lending Trump a helping hand.

But Trump took it a step further, replying: 'Well maybe even more, to be honest with you.'

'Like what, Mr. President, like what?' Varney asked over Trump's interruptions. Let me just explain that Putin is saying things like, "Don’t you dare send anything in." In the meantime he’s killing thousands and thousands of people. So he’s acting like we’re an aggressor if we send in some old 44-year-old plane that probably gets shot at in the sky pretty quickly, and he’s acting like we’re terrible people if we do that. But he’s killing tens of thousands of people, far more than they’re reporting,' Trump answered.

Varney fruitlessly attempted to pin the ex-president down again. But Trump simply continued rambling about 'what we can do without planes' without stating what that might be.

'Well what I would do, is I would -- we would -- we have tremendous military capability. And what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job,' he said.

Link

a reply to: frogs453

So you are using the Daily Mail's interpretation of what Trump said on Fox as a source?

First off the US has no MiGs to send. They may have one or two, but they won't make a difference. Poland offered to give their MiGs to the US for the US to give them to the Ukraine. Biden shot that idea down.

Next the "nuclear submarines off the coast" bit. Those are called "deterrence patrols". The US has done that since the early 1960's. The Russians do it too. The funny thing is that the subs don't have to be "off the coast". Their missiles have enough range to strike from almost anywhere.

Personally If I was going to get involved in this I'd unload a couple of our SSGN's at Russia. 300 Tomahawk missiles would make a statement.