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Originally posted by xpert11
Croat56 science cant explain where matter comes from yet remember there was a time when science couldnt explain why the moon disapeared from our view from time to time.
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
I am not talking about that kind of complexity. I am talking about all of life's complexity. And it is most definitely an arguement, as philosophers use it today when arguing for a God. However, I could give you more miraculous stories, but what would that accomplish?
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
I am not talking about that kind of complexity. I am talking about all of life's complexity. And it is most definitely an arguement, as philosophers use it today when arguing for a God. However, I could give you more miraculous stories, but what would that accomplish?
Originally posted by Killak420
So I guess since you dont beleive in GOD I can call you a monkey
If there is no GOD then how come you exist?
Originally posted by specialasianX
Originally posted by Killak420
So I guess since you dont beleive in GOD I can call you a monkey
If there is no GOD then how come you exist?
Its called evolution... look into it, coz it makes more sense than creationism...
But xpert... let people believe if they want... i dont, but as long as bible bashers bash their bibles away from me i'm not fussed.
Originally posted by Lysergic
you take what i say out of context not that it matters to me
I say weird as in every religion belives they are right therefore every religion cept 1 is wrong in that thinking, I don't know how I came off nasty but if thats the way you take it, I was just honest.
who said I am atheist?
[edit on 28-4-2005 by Lysergic]
Originally posted by Quake
Suppose I am a layman, or that I am new to English or if you please just plain dumb...
Explain/Define GOD
(Please dont give me a copy paste from wikipedia)
Originally posted by Lysergic
Really why should anyone care what anyone believes? I mean are they pissed off just because of the way I think? You know I really try not to enforce my belief on anyone it's just my ruleset that works for me that keeps me going ya know. Just as everyone else has theirs man.
Really who cares what wierdo religions people are? They're all weird! We can't say we know about the great beyond when we have BARELY explored beyond this tiny rock.
live and let live man
I do see how they can manipulate certain religions but thats just because there are some evil people in this world, well maybe not evil truly just thats what works for them manipulation, so they do it.
no right no wrong just actions which you must respond to
Originally posted by Quake
Originally posted by Quake
Suppose I am a layman, or that I am new to English or if you please just plain dumb...
Explain/Define GOD
(Please dont give me a copy paste from wikipedia)
Continuing from where I left:
I find it hard to believe an entity which even the strongest believers cannot describe.
I do believe miracles happen, but thats because they are just phenomenan we cannot explain...YeT...... Remember the the times when even cures for polio and small pox were considered miracles..
Just for speculation, Maybe a controlling force exists:
Whats so special about it/him/her that I should WORSHIP him?
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Perhaps because it gave you life. It gave you the ability to choose things, to love things, to be free. Thus, you owe it worship. Perhaps it is because it has done nothing but love you ever since existance, even after you have turned your back on it. Perhaps it is because it is pure good.
Did the scientists give you life? And any life the Scientists create will be a result of God creating it, as that scientist would never have been able to create whatever they create without God first creating them. So, no, they shouldn't worship the scientist, as God gave the power to the scientist to create them, and they should worship God because of this.
Perhaps because it gave you life: Scientists have cloned sheeps and horses. They are working on creating single cell organisms and in all probability will be sucessful.. Should I begin worshiping them?
The atrocities of man prove nothing about God. We have the ability to choose to be good or bad, and some choose to be good and then place the label of "In God's name" on it. They don't have an inside track to what God wants in reality, and we both know this.
It gave you the ability to choose things, to love things, to be free
I worked hard to learn to differentiate things, to love things and my forefathers worked to be free. BTW, there are still millions of people in this world who are not free. So I presume they should not believe in GOD. Neither do people who enslave/attack others. But, in my view many of these atrocities have been carried out in the name of GOD. Remember the KKK and the cross, the Nazis, the crusades.. The list goes on and on and on
I think AWE is better than nothing.
Thus, you owe it worship: I may owe it AWE...But I dont owe him WORSHIP
Perhaps it is because it has done nothing but love you ever since existance, even after you have turned your back on it. Perhaps it is because it is pure good: If GOD is so loving and powerful why is there is so much misery on earth. Human fault I guess: But, then If we can attribute all the faults to ourselves we certainly deserve the credit for the good in the world. Lets not start attributing everything good in the world to god and everything bad to humans!!!!!