Dominion Voting Systems Suddenly Appears to be Afraid of Something.

Tuesday, February 1, 2022

Seeking guidance from ATS members who understand our (U.S.) legal system.

Dominion Software Company sued Mike Lindell (owner of MyPillow) for $1.3 Billion dollars, because he accused them of helping to perpetrate election fraud that made Joe Biden beat Donald Trump in November 2020.

Dominion Voting Systems asked a federal judge on Monday night to allow the company's defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell to proceed, arguing that the MyPillow CEO's arguments in the case "threaten the rule of law."

"If allowed to proceed, they would impose liability on innumerable parties engaging in ordinary, day-to-day acts of litigation," Dominion's attorneys wrote of Lindell's counterclaims in the case. "They would deter future litigants from bringing their disputes to court in the first place."

Dominion sued Lindell and MyPillow in February of 2021, claiming $1.3 billion in damages and alleging they defamed the election technology company by pushing lies about its role in the 2020 election.

It's part of a spate of lawsuits Dominion filed against election conspiracy theorists and media entities it says platformed them.

Lindell filed a counterclaim in December, alleging Dominion was engaged in an illegal conspiracy to punish him through litigation, and rehashing falsehoods, claiming the company manipulated election results so that then-President Donald Trump would lose the 2020 election.

More at: www.businessinsider.com...

HOW can Mike Lindell's interaction with Dominion Voting Systems within the U.S. legal system, "threaten the rule of law"?

HOW can Dominion legally say Lindell's claims are "falsehoods", if no court has ruled either way?

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While we're on the subject, Dominion Voting Systems said back on January 25th that it "could not settle suits" it brought against pro-Trump attorneys, Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell.

Details here: www.reuters.com...

For a company who trumpeted, and had all the MSM praising it, for suing the daylights out of Trump affiliated lawyers 12 months ago, Dominion sure doesn't seem to be on the offensive any longer. Or is it merely trying a different approach?

-CareWeMust

a reply to: carewemust

My laymans view is that they are trying to weasel out of discovery.

a reply to: carewemust

Easy, The legal system is just as corrupt as our ruling party and most of our judges and lawyers support same ruling party and will do their bidding.

You can't win a witch hunt when the Justice system and Judge has already determined the outcome no matter what evidence there is.

What evidence, not allowed, national security, etc. etc.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: carewemust

My laymans view is that they are trying to weasel out of discovery.

Maybe we're seeing another instance of Democrat legal minds at work. Dominion's lawyers had no idea that suing Lindell for $1.3 Billion dollars would lead to a "Discovery of Evidence" phase.

Brane ded

a reply to: carewemust

Oh they know. Its standard.

If Dominion can find a loophole, theyll use it.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust

Easy, The legal system is just as corrupt as our ruling party and most of our judges and lawyers support same ruling party and will do their bidding.

You can't win a witch hunt when the Justice system and Judge has already determined the outcome no matter what evidence there is.

What evidence, not allowed, national security, etc. etc.

Maybe Dominion's huge cases against Lindell, Powell, and Giuliani ended up before a judge(s) who are not bought and paid for by the Democrat powers of this country? It caught them off guard and now they want out?

a reply to: carewemust

They cannot fairly win that case and they know it. I mean there are so many examples of blatant exploitation of their systems.

(I will use MSM sources so that there is no bullcrap about being fake news)

I mean...ooops, sorry I had the wrong thumb drive (really, I got caught and now the Democrat did not win maybe)

www.wtvr.com...

Oh, surprise, voting machines penetrated confirmed:

www.ajc.com...

Voting machine penetrated
The vulnerability was first alleged in sealed court documents in July by Alex Halderman, a computer science professor at the University of Michigan. As an expert for plaintiffs in the election security lawsuit, Halderman gained access to Georgia voting equipment for 12 weeks and produced a 25,000-word secret report.

Halderman found that malicious software could be installed on voting touchscreens so that votes are changed in QR codes printed on paper ballots, which are then scanned to record votes, according to court documents. QR codes aren’t readable by the human eye, and voters have no way to know whether they match the printed text of their choices.

The vulnerability could be exploited by someone with physical access to a voting touchscreen, such as a voter in a polling place, or by an attacker who used election management system computers,

'Online and vulnerable': Experts find nearly three dozen U.S. voting systems connected to internet

www.nbcnews.com...

We found over 35 [voting systems] had been left online and we’re still continuing to find more,” Kevin Skoglund, a senior technical advisor at the election security advocacy group National Election Defense Coalition, told NBC News.

“We kept hearing from election officials that voting machines were never on the internet,” he said. “And we knew that wasn't true.

The three largest voting manufacturing companies — Election Systems &Software, Dominion Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic — have acknowledged they all put modems in some of their tabulators and scanners. The reason? So that unofficial election results can more quickly be relayed to the public. Those modems connect to cell phone networks, which, in turn, are connected to the internet.

“Once a hacker starts talking to the voting machine through the modem, the hacker cannot just change these unofficial election results, they can hack the software in the voting machine and make it cheat in future elections,” he said.

There are many more. Their defense will be 'well, ok we lied about machines being connected to the internet and hackable but you cannot prove they were hacked because we made sure to wipe the data and interfere with any possible audit.

While the company’s website states that “zero” of its voting tabulators are connected to the internet, ES&S told NBC News 14,000 of their DS200 tabulators with online modems are currently in use around the country.

us.norton.com...

Can Hackers Hack the Election?
At the Black Hat convention this year, Symantec’s Brian Varner demonstrated a security flaw in an electronic voting machine and the smart card a voter would use to place their vote. Using a small device to exploit this flaw a hacker could potentially cast multiple votes, tampering with the system. This is concerning when five states (Georgia, Delaware, Louisiana, South Carolina and New Jersey) use electronic voting machines without a paper ballot verification system to audit the results, according to a CNN report.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust

Easy, The legal system is just as corrupt as our ruling party and most of our judges and lawyers support same ruling party and will do their bidding.

You can't win a witch hunt when the Justice system and Judge has already determined the outcome no matter what evidence there is.

What evidence, not allowed, national security, etc. etc.

Yes, sadly. Lawfare is waged by powerful people too.

As many have said, even without a corrupted legal system, there is a large discrepancy between the ability of most low or middle income people to sustain ongoing legal battles, and the ability of powerful political and corporate entities to do so.

a reply to: Madviking

Theres a saying;

"The process is the punishment."

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, February 1, 2022

Seeking guidance from ATS members who understand our (U.S.) legal system.

Dominion Software Company sued Mike Lindell (owner of MyPillow) for $1.3 Billion dollars, because he accused them of helping to perpetrate election fraud that made Joe Biden beat Donald Trump in November 2020.

Dominion Voting Systems asked a federal judge on Monday night to allow the company's defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell to proceed, arguing that the MyPillow CEO's arguments in the case "threaten the rule of law."

"If allowed to proceed, they would impose liability on innumerable parties engaging in ordinary, day-to-day acts of litigation," Dominion's attorneys wrote of Lindell's counterclaims in the case. "They would deter future litigants from bringing their disputes to court in the first place."

Dominion sued Lindell and MyPillow in February of 2021, claiming $1.3 billion in damages and alleging they defamed the election technology company by pushing lies about its role in the 2020 election.

It's part of a spate of lawsuits Dominion filed against election conspiracy theorists and media entities it says platformed them.

Lindell filed a counterclaim in December, alleging Dominion was engaged in an illegal conspiracy to punish him through litigation, and rehashing falsehoods, claiming the company manipulated election results so that then-President Donald Trump would lose the 2020 election.

More at: www.businessinsider.com...

HOW can Mike Lindell's interaction with Dominion Voting Systems within the U.S. legal system, "threaten the rule of law"?

HOW can Dominion legally say Lindell's claims are "falsehoods", if no court has ruled either way?

---------------

While we're on the subject, Dominion Voting Systems said back on January 25th that it "could not settle suits" it brought against pro-Trump attorneys, Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell.

Details here: www.reuters.com...

For a company who trumpeted, and had all the MSM praising it, for suing the daylights out of Trump affiliated lawyers 12 months ago, Dominion sure doesn't seem to be on the offensive any longer. Or is it merely trying a different approach?

-CareWeMust

You might consider reading the actual filing, and it would answer your question.

Mike Lindell and the MyPillow corporation are claiming that the mere filing of a lawsuit against them is an "abuse of process".

Case law explicitly refutes that claim:

"The mere filing of a lawsuit—i.e., the “mere issuance of process” itself—“is not actionable [as an abuse of process claim], no matter what ulterior motive may have prompted” the lawsuit. Rockwell Cap. Partners, Inc. v. CD Int’l Enterprises, Inc., 311 F. Supp. 3d 52, 55 (D.D.C. 2018) (quoting Morowitz, 423 A.2d at 198). Rather, “the gist of the action li[es] in the improper use [of process] after issuance.” Id. (quoting Morowitz, 423 A.2d at 198 (emphasis in original)); see also Bannum, 383 F. Supp. 2d at 46 (same); Nygard v. City of Orono, 2021 WL 3552251, at *6 (D. Minn. Aug. 11, 2021) (“The act of initiating a lawsuit cannot be the basis for an abuse of process claim.”

Page 8 of the court filing:

storage.courtlistener.com...

If the court allowed Lindell's claim to stand, it would overturn massive amounts of legal precedent thereby threatening established law.

a reply to: carewemust

This is about his suit against them. All it looks like to me is they're arguing he doesn't have sufficient cause to bring the suit and allowing it would set bad legal precedent. Threaten the rule of law is hyperbole.

I see this all the time in court reporting. They print stories about filings that likely happen in every civil case. Most cases are drawn out with filings at every step in the process. They want to first prevent the case from getting in the court, then they want to keep items out of discovery, then they want to exclude witnesses, and whatever else they can.

This is a nothingburger. The real fight will be when he requests records from them during discovery on the case against him. I don't think the judge will grant that if he asks, but I have very little knowledge of civil procedure.

a reply to: infolurker

Wow. That's a LOT of evidence of potential for fraud, and potential fraud you provided!

What single entity can say, "It looks like there was significant election errors in the swing states", and stop all the MSM from saying the claims that Trump possibly won, "are false, traitorous, lies from conspiracy theorists!"

originally posted by: Madviking

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust

Easy, The legal system is just as corrupt as our ruling party and most of our judges and lawyers support same ruling party and will do their bidding.

You can't win a witch hunt when the Justice system and Judge has already determined the outcome no matter what evidence there is.

What evidence, not allowed, national security, etc. etc.

Yes, sadly. Lawfare is waged by powerful people too.

As many have said, even without a corrupted legal system, there is a large discrepancy between the ability of most low or middle income people to sustain ongoing legal battles, and the ability of powerful political and corporate entities to do so.

It bugs me that lawsuits can be brought just because someone gets their feelings hurt. That seems to be why Dominion went after Mike Lindell for $1.3 Billion. Isn't our court system plugged up enough already?

a reply to: 1947boomer

Thank-you for providing a quick-response summary of what would have taken me hours to figure out....maybe days!

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, February 1, 2022

Seeking guidance from ATS members who understand our (U.S.) legal system.

Dominion Software Company sued Mike Lindell (owner of MyPillow) for $1.3 Billion dollars, because he accused them of helping to perpetrate election fraud that made Joe Biden beat Donald Trump in November 2020.

Dominion Voting Systems asked a federal judge on Monday night to allow the company's defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell to proceed, arguing that the MyPillow CEO's arguments in the case "threaten the rule of law."

"If allowed to proceed, they would impose liability on innumerable parties engaging in ordinary, day-to-day acts of litigation," Dominion's attorneys wrote of Lindell's counterclaims in the case. "They would deter future litigants from bringing their disputes to court in the first place."

Dominion sued Lindell and MyPillow in February of 2021, claiming $1.3 billion in damages and alleging they defamed the election technology company by pushing lies about its role in the 2020 election.

It's part of a spate of lawsuits Dominion filed against election conspiracy theorists and media entities it says platformed them.

Lindell filed a counterclaim in December, alleging Dominion was engaged in an illegal conspiracy to punish him through litigation, and rehashing falsehoods, claiming the company manipulated election results so that then-President Donald Trump would lose the 2020 election.

More at: www.businessinsider.com...

HOW can Mike Lindell's interaction with Dominion Voting Systems within the U.S. legal system, "threaten the rule of law"?

HOW can Dominion legally say Lindell's claims are "falsehoods", if no court has ruled either way?

---------------

While we're on the subject, Dominion Voting Systems said back on January 25th that it "could not settle suits" it brought against pro-Trump attorneys, Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell.

Details here: www.reuters.com...

For a company who trumpeted, and had all the MSM praising it, for suing the daylights out of Trump affiliated lawyers 12 months ago, Dominion sure doesn't seem to be on the offensive any longer. Or is it merely trying a different approach?

-CareWeMust

I didn’t/don’t have time to watch any of Lindell’s symposium. But if you’re smart, you make it look weak so you do get sued. Bring the good stuff later. How do you get evidence in court legally? And whatnot. Dominions response is just typical narcissistic deflection to hope they look not guilty.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: carewemust

This is about his suit against them. All it looks like to me is they're arguing he doesn't have sufficient cause to bring the suit and allowing it would set bad legal precedent. Threaten the rule of law is hyperbole.

I see this all the time in court reporting. They print stories about filings that likely happen in every civil case. Most cases are drawn out with filings at every step in the process. They want to first prevent the case from getting in the court, then they want to keep items out of discovery, then they want to exclude witnesses, and whatever else they can.

This is a nothingburger. The real fight will be when he requests records from them during discovery on the case against him. I don't think the judge will grant that if he asks, but I have very little knowledge of civil procedure.

Thankyou. So this is just overhyped showmanship at the moment, to be followed at some point by the REAL trial?

You certainly have to be a special personality to be an attorney who argues cases. Sharp and patient.

originally posted by: Kaiju666

originally posted by: carewemust
Tuesday, February 1, 2022

Seeking guidance from ATS members who understand our (U.S.) legal system.

Dominion Software Company sued Mike Lindell (owner of MyPillow) for $1.3 Billion dollars, because he accused them of helping to perpetrate election fraud that made Joe Biden beat Donald Trump in November 2020.

Dominion Voting Systems asked a federal judge on Monday night to allow the company's defamation lawsuit against Mike Lindell to proceed, arguing that the MyPillow CEO's arguments in the case "threaten the rule of law."

"If allowed to proceed, they would impose liability on innumerable parties engaging in ordinary, day-to-day acts of litigation," Dominion's attorneys wrote of Lindell's counterclaims in the case. "They would deter future litigants from bringing their disputes to court in the first place."

Dominion sued Lindell and MyPillow in February of 2021, claiming $1.3 billion in damages and alleging they defamed the election technology company by pushing lies about its role in the 2020 election.

It's part of a spate of lawsuits Dominion filed against election conspiracy theorists and media entities it says platformed them.

Lindell filed a counterclaim in December, alleging Dominion was engaged in an illegal conspiracy to punish him through litigation, and rehashing falsehoods, claiming the company manipulated election results so that then-President Donald Trump would lose the 2020 election.

More at: www.businessinsider.com...

HOW can Mike Lindell's interaction with Dominion Voting Systems within the U.S. legal system, "threaten the rule of law"?

HOW can Dominion legally say Lindell's claims are "falsehoods", if no court has ruled either way?

---------------

While we're on the subject, Dominion Voting Systems said back on January 25th that it "could not settle suits" it brought against pro-Trump attorneys, Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell.

Details here: www.reuters.com...

For a company who trumpeted, and had all the MSM praising it, for suing the daylights out of Trump affiliated lawyers 12 months ago, Dominion sure doesn't seem to be on the offensive any longer. Or is it merely trying a different approach?

-CareWeMust

I didn’t/don’t have time to watch any of Lindell’s symposium. But if you’re smart, you make it look weak so you do get sued. Bring the good stuff later. How do you get evidence in court legally? And whatnot. Dominions response is just typical narcissistic deflection to hope they look not guilty.

While these suits drag out, if Dominion is guilty of perpetrating election fraud, it can do so again in the states that will use Dominion Voting Systems hardware/software, this coming November.

There needs to be a DOJ investigation. Maybe that would move faster.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Madviking

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust

Easy, The legal system is just as corrupt as our ruling party and most of our judges and lawyers support same ruling party and will do their bidding.

You can't win a witch hunt when the Justice system and Judge has already determined the outcome no matter what evidence there is.

What evidence, not allowed, national security, etc. etc.

Yes, sadly. Lawfare is waged by powerful people too.

As many have said, even without a corrupted legal system, there is a large discrepancy between the ability of most low or middle income people to sustain ongoing legal battles, and the ability of powerful political and corporate entities to do so.

It bugs me that lawsuits can be brought just because someone gets their feelings hurt. That seems to be why Dominion went after Mike Lindell for $1.3 Billion. Isn't our court system plugged up enough already?

Yeah, I don't understand how they plan to prove they lost 1.3 billion based on his statements. There were thousands of reports about how Lindell is a nut and it's only fringe Trump supporters that believed it. That seems to be all the evidence Lindell needs to show that nobody believed him, it was widely reported to be fringe conspiracy theorists. I don't think many fringe conspiracy theorists ever intended to buy Dominion's services.

a reply to: carewemust

Watch these reports from CNN:



Election Fraud - Smartmatic In Venezuela

ugetube.com...

Also See HBO hacking Democracy



U.S. Investigates Voting Machines’ Venezuela Ties

www.nytimes.com...

The federal government is investigating the takeover last year of a leading American manufacturer of electronic voting systems by a small software company that has been linked to the leftist Venezuelan government of President Hugo Chávez.

The inquiry is focusing on the Venezuelan owners of the software company, the Smartmatic Corporation

The lawsuits were never meant to actually succeed .

The people that own the media are the same people who own Dominion so are they gonna sue themselves?

They were only meant as a reason for the media to not be allowed to talk about it.

They all said "Oh know we might get sued we better apologize and never talk about dominion again"

Even Fox news and Newsmax apologized.

Lindell and Powell are the only ones with any balls

THE MEDIA IS NOT SCARED OF A LAWSUIT