i don't think they are extraterrestrial but they are not ours either

This might look like a B movie script, but imho what we are seeing in our skies have been here all along. They belong to the civilizations that created the pyramids, call them Atlanteans, Hyperboreans, but they are proof that advanced civilizations existed in our planet and still do.

These machines are even mentioned in Hindu texts, Vimanas. Where are they located? Underwater bases (Atlantis anyone) and Antarctica. The Germans knew of this and wanted to make contact with these ancestors, and i think they did, that's why they went to Antartica and had a base there.

World powers tried to defy these ancestors in 1946 with Operation Highjump and were totally defeated. These things, these ancestors, come from our own planet (underwater bases / inner earth) and not from another dimension or another planet, somehow they can defy G forces, maybe the pilots of these things are robotic in nature or found a way to overcome the gravitational forces that is unknown to us.

i don't buy anything that comes from the To The Stars Academy or the Pentagon, they are lying to you. They absolutely know who pilots these ships and who owns this technology, these are the same that kicked their asses in 1946.

originally posted by: Picollo30
these are the same that kicked their asses in 1946.

Go on...

All the unexplainable monuments (Pyramids, Baalbek, Sacsayhuamán, Easter Island) we see around the world start to make sense as remnants of this pre human civilization /civilizations.

a reply to: Picollo30

ah, neuschwabenland! from there, the nazis wanted to take over the world again. but they all killed each other, and the few survivors, mostly deformed because of incest, have long since frozen to death (unfortunately, there was no electricity and no firewood to be found on site). the whole thing was bad organized.

a reply to: Picollo30

If they are more advance then us, why are they hiding in the ground and not the surface all these years.
And how do they live without the power of the sun ?

a reply to: Spacespider

Hollow earth has an inner sun. It looks just like it does up here, down there. But the sun never sets and is always high noon.

originally posted by: Picollo30
World powers tried to defy these ancestors in 1946 with Operation Highjump and were totally defeated.

I'm still trying to figure out what sort of defeat we suffered during Highjump.
That was really a research mission with minimal losses. All accidental by my reading.

a reply to: Picollo30

A simpler explanation...

What we call "extraterrestrial" beings are exactly that now....

But they originally came from Earth.

So no need to hypothesize about underground/undersea civilizations, other dimensions, etc.

They were a past civilization that became space-faring.

If the legends are true, by necessity.

Anything flying around now is simply a result of the reverse engineering of relics by our current "civilization".

Although the Hopi truly believe they will come back for us once we solve a simple puzzle.

One that it seems humanity is incapable of solving.

a reply to: Spacespider

Maybe they have all they need and don't want contact with humans as ufo encounters really show most of the time. What would an advanced civilization gain while being in contact with a primitive one? They just tolerate us and let us share the same rock.

originally posted by: Picollo30
All the unexplainable monuments (Pyramids, Baalbek, Sacsayhuamán, Easter Island) we see around the world start to make sense as remnants of this pre human civilization /civilizations.

If they are a subterranean species/inhabitants why did they build monuments on The Earths surface ?

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I don't think they were always like that (underwater or underground dwellers), they went underground after a cataclysm. Nuclear war? Meteor strike? Pole shift? Deluge?

Those monuments are remnants of their influence on our planet at some given time.

a reply to: Picollo30


The advanced civilization you envision, left Earth and mankind long ago; However they do return for pizza occasionally at Angelos in Wausau, Wi. or Enchiladas in Albuquerque at Bruno's.

a reply to: Picollo30

IF a certain astronaut said that there is something pure evil at the south pole, If the senior admiral of the Nazi Navy said that the navy had created a Shangri-La an impregnable fortress for there fuhrer at the far end of the wold (which was definitely not France though those submarine pens are a testament to how well the Germans could build even with concrete.

IF time and again the NAZI's though they were using slave labour to do so demonstrated that they could build underground city's that were getting ever more complex and massive in Europe.

IF about a hundred very large Nazi Cargo Submarines vanished and remain unaccounted for today.

IF many submarines eventually that surrendered into Neutral ports such as Argentina only had Skeleton crews on board despite apparently having been loaded with supply's, crews and many, many people at the start of there final journey which sometimes lasted five or six month's from the final days of the war until there late surrender.

IF the Nazi's were creating disc shaped aircraft.

IF the Nazi's had dropped huge number of Swastika flats on weighted poles to claim a huge part of the Arctic half the size of Europe as there own.

IF a military task force was sent to enact what it thought was going to be a simply mop up operation along with some Russians, English and even French contingents to Antarctica to deal with the possible Nazi Hold Out but then lost most of it's planes, a destroyer and was forced to retreat in disgrace from an overwhelming resistance only for the admiral of that fleet to then 'unwisely' (because he was telling the truth) during an interview in Argentina to reporters on the way home have said that in the next war the US could face an enemy that could fly pole to pole at incredible speed.

IF the US then made a secret agreement with this very strong NAZI presence whom had established a new ideal state for themselves under the ground and the ice of Antarctica with a capital city in it's core with a population of today about two millions brainwashed but technically superior people living there only for them to often be mistaken for aliens when using there Nordic's cover story.

Well watch these.





The fact is Armstrong is a Patriotic American, for him to encounter an actually NAZI state that probably hero worship's Hitler living in a hidden utopia would have been an utter shock to then find out they were technologically superior and could probably wipe the bulk of rest of us out would have been an even greater shock, to then find out that HE was not the first man on the moon and that was not even an American would have been a still greater shock.

Of course an elderly man would have taken quite ill at the revelation of this - EVIL - under the ice.

But think, what could such a society if it was driven by human desires rather than using the failings of our world, the ethnic strife, murder of white farmers and the ensuing starvation in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) and also murder of white's in South Africa, failures of post apartheid South Africa etc to paint the rest of humanity as sub human's (not completely without merit but they are no better and in fact have shown themselves to be far worse), what good could they have done if they had really wanted.


Of course it may have been simply the ruins of a Nazi hold out, about six month's after Bird left Antarctica in retreat there was a seismic event under the ice about the same size as a nuclear device would cause?.

But YES there may be others as well, Alexander the great had UFO's fire on the walls of Tyre while he was besieging the city and almost on the verge of abandoning the siege because Tyre was too tough a nut to crack even for him up to that point (the Later Romans could have done it), five of these shining SHIELDS (Think what a Greek Shield looked like) flew over the walls and struck them with lightning allowing his men to then storm the breach they had made, Later his army were STOPPED from entering India by two flying objects that dipped and dived at his army as they tried to cross the river.

So a remnant of a previous civilization may have hung on somewhere in the world, just perhaps the Ahnenerb were able to find some of this ancient technology and make use of it?.

If the US found some today you would not be told about it, the craft or technology would be shipped to a hanger somewhere, a front corporation brought in to research it and make use of it, patent anything they could reverse engineer and build there own modern versions as ultra top secret black project's and if EVER it came out to the rest of the world or the lowly military whom are flying around in century's out of date technology even today then that would likely be in fifty or sixty years.

Who do those Black shadow projects work for, how deep was the operation paperclip REVERSE infiltration, is NEW Berlin pulling the strings?.

Think about it?.

Think what it must be like to live in such an oppressive state hidden and isolated from the world (Orwell's 1984 would not even come close), Remember the brain drain and alternative 3 the supposedly April fools' joke video (they released it on that date but they never made it on that date??? and yes many of them are actors but that is no biggie old documentary's and serious ones at that often had actors stand in for real people who did not want to appear on camera).


Just exactly other than the US where did all those scientists disappear too?, the crème of the intelligentsia and the world is mentally the poorer as are many of the nations they left behind for there absence.

As an example take the British scientists Dyson, he is not the sharpest tool in the box and Victor Schauberger already invented everything he has since patented and claimed as his own back in the 1930's and earlier yet he gets feted as a great saviour of British science, oh how far we have fallen since the brain drain took our best and brightest and where did they go, supposedly the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand so were are the New Zealand floating cars or the Canadian hypersonic bullet trains etc, they went somewhere so if not there where?.

During WW2 the Germans kidnapped, forced to develop and if non compliant executed scientists and there family's, one would assume they have developed far more affective mind controlling methods than that today if any of them ended up somewhere controlled by a group descended from the third Reich.

Not a palatable thought but one that bares consideration at least.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Picollo30


The advanced civilization you envision, left Earth and mankind long ago; However they do return for pizza occasionally at Angelos in Wausau, Wi. or Enchiladas in Albuquerque at Bruno's.

As someone that lived in Wausau for a long time, that pizza is worth returning for.

a reply to: haaat

I never used those words but yes Break Away Civilization is another claim, some say BOTH are true and there is some overlap and has been some strife as well between these overlapping breakaway civilizations.

They can probably invent some stuff but would still watch the earth for anything interesting since likely our inventions are following completely different development directions and outcomes to there's, ideas they maybe never or never would have had but which they can then take as there own and incorporate into there own technological tree.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Picollo30

If they are more advance then us, why are they hiding in the ground and not the surface all these years.

Why do you think they're hiding? More so, why does it need to live on the surface??
Perhaps, a race ideologically and biologically different from us, yet Earthly in origin, perhaps they exist underground and wonder why we would live above ground? Maybe they are so old that they aren't hiding, more so, understand the massive threat abive them, SIX(6) Billion natives with sharp sticks.
Perhaps their way of doing things has diminished up until recently, their power waning, lives and population numbers dwindling.

And how do they live without the power of the sun ?

Ask any deep sea creature living in the trenches 🤭

Wow, that's a lot to swallow LOL. But, I see you have. You presented all this as plausible. Surely you require more than the content of these videos? Unless of course, you are just using them for entertainment. 😁


a reply to: LABTECH767

a reply to: vance

Here is my personal take, I believe there is at least a kernel of truth to this, if you have never researched the sick and twisted Ahnenerb the NAZI occult group and the many other occult groups they were linked to then I would recommend you do so, it's not a joke.

That said what real difference would it make to you or me, we are small people just living our lives in a big world other than being of interest and riling some of us up that scum were never brought to trial for there war crimes.

Other than that our governments are so corrupt they do not really need NAZI's to make them any worse than they already are, our world is run by corporations (and YES there is a great deal of NAZI money in those things believe it or not after the war a German general once said to an English ambassador that though they had lost the war they would win WW3 which was going to be an economic war - he was obviously wrong because the Chinese beat him to it).

Corporations are if anything worse than the NAZI's except of course they need there consumers to buy there crap so don't tend to simply wipe us out but make that a profitable proposition and watch how evil they really are.

But back to my point, it is general interest, better to be enlightened than have some schill's and disinformation specialists (that pull down factual and conspiracy story's that get too close for comfort) that try to pull the wool over our eye's.

So to your and my life it would end up not making much difference, we would lament the fact the now likely long dead war criminals had escaped justice and lived out there lives according to these story's quite comfortably but otherwise what would it really matter so long as they stuck to there own space and left mine well alone the real war ended in 1945 and I would want it to stay that way, besides God will sort them in the end.

In a certain way, it almost makes sense that the world's collective authorities have gone to great lengths to hide an advanced civilization from us because we are the obsolete model that has graciously been permitted to continue our primitive society built on top of theirs. What's our natural reaction to any sufficiently skilled rivalry? Compete, consume and eventually conquer. Domination is inevitable. But whose?

CryptoTerrestial, the belief that a precursor or sister race has existed on earth, advanced even in Humankinds days of infancy.

These "Masters" watch over the Planet from abroad, culling and instigating at key points, eyeful of all the world powers. Once Humankind starts to "advance", the Masters release a barrage of cataclysm like Floods to stagnate Human progression.

Present time, their power has waned and their capacities for global carnage have dimiminished as a result of time.

Now, they lurk, in the shadows, evaluating and studying their new found peers....