THE IRAQI URANIUM BROUHAHA AND SSCI

By Thomas Crowne,

What I wonder is how other nations and their people would react if they held our position in the world. If the positions were changed and no matter what they did or did not do some bozo had a gripe about it. When the dangers aren't aimed at them and when the costs aren't carried by them, some always feel the need to chime in and criticize as if they are the ones with the higher knowledge and concret solutions, only they never see fit to offer their wise solutions that would work, only their negativity.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic

No, "redneck" was not directed at Seekerof, it was directed at a stupid way of arguing into which Seekerof had fallen.

You are quite right in the emotional loading attached to that word. Is there a reason why it is more associated with Republicanism, aside from the alliteration?

The inference was there.

And, for the historically naive, *rednecks* exist in all parties, even in the Democratic south where redneck was a way of life....more?

Tyriffic

Inferences are made by the listener or reader, implications by the speaker or writer. I notice you have observed my 'vagueness' before.

Do you seriously consider that there are as many so-called "rednecks" voting Democrat as Republican? What do the Democrats ever do that appeals to "rednecks" rather than to middle-class intellectuals and minority groups?

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic

Inferences are made by the listener or reader, implications by the speaker or writer. I notice you have observed my 'vagueness' before.

Do you seriously consider that there are as many so-called "rednecks" voting Democrat as Republican? What do the Democrats ever do that appeals to "rednecks" rather than to middle-class intellectuals and minority groups?

Yes, I have noted well the vagaries that encompass YOU in your posts....it is a point of distraction that I am loathe to give you credit for....

Your second contention as it were . See my above post and look deeper...that is what you say is it not?

In the 19th century south 'rednecks' denied the black persons any freedoms whatsoever-slavery was defended to the death by Democratic *rednecks* you speak of.

How many liberal rednecks I could count that called me an racial ephitet ??????? Gee.......fingers, toes.....still counting.
Your lifetime experience would be helpfull in this.

FYI



"The diplomat who set off a political firestorm last week when he told the New York Times that President Bush may have "exaggerated" when he told the nation that Iraq sought nuclear fuel in Africa admitted last October that he believed Saddam Hussein had "an aggressive program to try and get" nuclear weapons."

www.newsmax.com.../7/14/120020

IRAQI URANIUM CONTROVERSY GROWS

The President's State of the Union remark concerning an alleged Iraqi
attempt to acquire uranium in Africa "appears to be but one of a
number of several questionable statements and exaggerations by the
Intelligence Community and Administration officials that were issued
in the buildup to the war," said Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) yesterday.

In a floor statement, he itemized the growing list of problematic
assertions involving intelligence on Iraq.

Part of the problem arises from the careless use of language, which may
in turn reflect a deeper confusion. While dramatic linguistic
missteps are most common in the pronouncements of President Bush
("We've found the weapons of mass destruction," he said egregiously on
May 30), they are not limited to the President.

For example, Senator Levin noted, "Last Sunday, Ms. Rice said 'we have
never said that we thought he [Saddam] had nuclear weapons.' But Vice
President Cheney said on March 16 'we believe he [Saddam] has, in
fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons'."

Senator Levin called for a "thorough, open and bipartisan inquiry" on
pre-war intelligence regarding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and
its use by policymakers. See his July 15 statement here:

www.fas.org...

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), who has been way out in front on the Africa
uranium story, wrote a long letter to the House Intelligence Committee
outlining his view of the "four categories of unanswered questions"
that the story presents. His July 15 letter, and previous
correspondence, may be found here:

www.house.gov...

The Director of Central Intelligence has responded in writing to the
House Intelligence Committee's May 22 request for information on how
pre-war intelligence on Iraqi WMD was developed, said ranking member
Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA) at a news conference yesterday.

"We are presently working to have that letter declassified," she said.

Based on her own review of the materials provided to the Intelligence
Committee to date, she said delicately, "the intelligence case for war
relied more than it should have on circumstantial indicators of Iraq's
WMD programs, rather than on solid facts."

At the same time, "the Administration consistently omitted the caveats
and qualifiers that the intelligence community generally attached to
its assessments of Iraq's WMD programs and ties to terrorism."

"The emerging evidence in Iraq does point to WMD programs," Rep. Harman
said, "but does not point to the existence of large stockpiles of
chemical or biological weapons."

The House Intelligence Committee will hold a public hearing on July 24
"in connection with its continuing review of pre-war intelligence on
Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and ties to terrorism."

Several members of the Committee went on a fact-finding mission to Iraq
last week and reported on their findings in a July 15 release. See:
www.fas.org...