Mandated wearing of masks and the Judenstern

originally posted by: American-philosopher
a reply to: PhatalError

Fortunatey in my area, local law enforcement has stated they will not enforce it, as they see it to be a violation of constitutional and civil rights.

Well you live in a good area. with everything thats going on right now. I cant see law enforcement actually enforcing this though.

I think with the stores and shops that I have been to lately only one has enforced the policy, I dont know that many people care? and I just wear the bandana and I dont even wear it over my face. I can just be like opps it slips down.

Thats kinda the route i will go if comes to that. Just pull my t shirt up over my nose since it’s still technically a face covering. Thats not the point. It’s not about the mask. Its not about the face covering. Its about the enforcing of it. Thats what everyone seems to be missing. Everyone instantly switches focus from the mandates of unconstitutional orders or orders meant to deny the public of basic essentials just because they wont conform to their will. Its not about the masks. Its about the mandates.

The mask is a catalyst upon which the mandates are enforced, which is why the mask is significant. Just like the judenstern. The wearing of ultimately allowed easy identification and ostracizing of a populace.

a reply to: PhatalError

its just masks. and this has nothing to do with nazi germany. how can this be seriously compared? thats just stupid.

in short: worldwide epidemic - dangerous virus - potential deadly - consequential damage undefined - measures are taken - status quo: in many countries the virus seems to be contained, in other countries like brazil, usa corona is still raging. why? because too many people are ignorant and unable to show solidarity. and because these governments only know the word solidarity from the dictionary.

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: PhatalError

its just masks. and this has nothing to do with nazi germany. how can this be seriously compared? thats just stupid.

in short: worldwide epidemic - dangerous virus - potential deadly - consequential damage undefined - measures are taken - status quo: in many countries the virus seems to be contained, in other countries like brazil, usa corona is still raging. why? because too many people are ignorant and unable to show solidarity. and because these governments only know the word solidarity from the dictionary.

It’s being blown out of proportion. Rise in cases sure, but what is the rise in those being tested? People are scared because of a hypothetical second wave. More people will go get tested due to allergy symptoms and the like. Sweden for example, has not required masks but are somehow an “anomaly”. The CDC using both antobody tests and active virus results to bolster the number of “confirmed” cases by easentially double counting cases. It’s fearmongering at it’s finest for the government to find out at what exactly they can get away with.

I don't wear a mask to protect myself from anything or anyone. I wear a mask because I MAY have the virus myself and not know it. It's a courtesy to others. If you feel wearing a mask is "controlling," I feel sorry for you. When I see you not wearing a mask in public it tells me you don't care at all about possibly spreading the virus and you are a self-centered jerk who doesn't give a # about anyone else. It tells me you are basically a stupid person.

a reply to: PhatalError

I suggest you watch this video. It shows comparisons of wearing mask and not wearing a mask. It's pretty eye opening and shows what happens when someone breaths in and out. The Schlieren Imaging shows exactly what's going on. The mask may not stop everything. But it certainly does limit things. Wear the mask.

a reply to: schuyler

Sounds like you need to order the plans...
To build a bridge...
To get over yourself

All cocky about the amount of programming you soak in.
Lmao

a reply to: grey580

Yeah, that's great and all.
No can someone prove it's even a threat?
I'm not talking bad testing, contaminated testig and fake death classifications which were admitted to be lied about.
Can we address the doctors being silenced?
Can we address the steep drop off of deaths?
Can we separate the fake deaths from real ones?
Can we separate flu deaths?
Can we investigate the financial stake the experts have in lying?
Can we address the small business attack going on.
Not only allowing corporations to stay opened, shutting small businesses, giving tax dollars to corporations
to then finace the gd BLM rioters?
WITAF

a reply to: PhatalError

My concern here isnt so much the "right here and now," but where this is all leading.

We essentially just went through a "flu" season refracted through the lens of corporate marketing and political propaganda.

We learned that very few actually look at things like data trails or actual science. They just listen to "experts" tell them what the #Science! is for that day.

Numbers wise, the excess deaths seem to have a significantly higher correlation with our approach than the actual spread of a pathogen. Particularly in regards to nursing homes, though the data trail there is incredibly suspect.

Importantly though, I dont see any of this ending. Leveraged with PCR test shenanigans, this is all very much the "new normal." There wont be a time where things like masks abate. This can literally be done every year, as well as throughout the year.

If anyone thinks this will end, you are being fooled. Even if SARS-CoV-2 dwindles, the phrase "pandemic potential" will start being used more and more. Every "flu" season will be marketed in exactly this way.. And thats in the absolute best case scenario.

Global warming, then global cooling, then climate change didnt work to build the "new global citizen," but this new marketing & propaganda approach deployed this year seems significantly more effective.

a reply to: PhatalError

I don't think it's so much as a experiment to test limits as much as a media backed gov diversion hiding crimes and protecting the establishment while pretending there is a hidden enemy.
A giant negative force fighting Trump so you feel he's the best option, the underdog that needs our support.
'Cause if not the establishment, you will get the nazis.
Look no further than corporate sponsorship of the riots.
The obviously over the top news.
Trillions taken from taxpayers.

One of my initial theories was this was all to piss of citizens into starting a war.
The China bad stuff was being laid on prettt regularly.

a reply to: schuyler

The fact that you wear a mask isn't something that warrants mockery of scorn. Your authoritarian diatribe about those who don't and your little virtue signal fest, however, do warrant mockery and scorn. Self centered jerks don't wear masks, you say? Well, why should the opinion of an authoritarian asshole matter in the slightest to anyone not carefully listening for your brand of dog whistle?

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: PhatalError

My concern here isnt so much the "right here and now," but where this is all leading.

We essentially just went through a "flu" season refracted through the lens of corporate marketing and political propaganda.

We learned that very few actually look at things like data trails or actual science. They just listen to "experts" tell them what the #Science! is for that day.

Numbers wise, the excess deaths seem to have a significantly higher correlation with our approach than the actual spread of a pathogen. Particularly in regards to nursing homes, though the data trail there is incredibly suspect.

Importantly though, I dont see any of this ending. Leveraged with PCR test shenanigans, this is all very much the "new normal." There wont be a time where things like masks abate. This can literally be done every year, as well as throughout the year.

If anyone thinks this will end, you are being fooled. Even if SARS-CoV-2 dwindles, the phrase "pandemic potential" will start being used more and more. Every "flu" season will be marketed in exactly this way.. And thats in the absolute best case scenario.

Global warming, then global cooling, then climate change didnt work to build the "new global citizen," but this new marketing & propaganda approach deployed this year seems significantly more effective.

You’ve almost hit the nail on the head on what i was i trying to get across. It’s not about the here and now, its the long term goal. Everyone always reverts back to the mundane “Its just a mask” counter arguement. When wearing a masking isnt the actual issue. That’s like telling anti vax it’s just a shot. Dont be scared of a shot. It’s the underlying issues that is the problem. The cause of issue, not just the method of administration. The issue is these government mandates. Not exactly the methods they enact them. Although, the methods use become centerpiece for argument, that is not the underlying issue. People are too high up on their SJW high horse to just take a step back and realize that. That is the problem.

a reply to: eXia7

I also live in Florida, what most don't realize is more people aren't getting the virus, more people are getting tested only to find they have had it. Which counts as a positive result. This has been around longer than anybody realizes. You have to go by the death rates, which also includes anybody who has died of anything, they go on the covid death count if they have had it in the past or currently have it. The death rate is way lower than everybody thought also. This isn't about saving lives, it's about chaos and control.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: PhatalError

I don't think it's so much as a experiment to test limits as much as a media backed gov diversion hiding crimes and protecting the establishment while pretending there is a hidden enemy.
A giant negative force fighting Trump so you feel he's the best option, the underdog that needs our support.
'Cause if not the establishment, you will get the nazis.
Look no further than corporate sponsorship of the riots.
The obviously over the top news.
Trillions taken from taxpayers.

One of my initial theories was this was all to piss of citizens into starting a war.
The China bad stuff was being laid on prettt regularly.

I can understand that point. It does make sense. Other threads have pointed out with increased mandates on corkonavirus and more fearmongering about a second wave most of the more important current events take backseat and almost unheard of.

originally posted by: Mark08
a reply to: eXia7

I also live in Florida, what most don't realize is more people aren't getting the virus, more people are getting tested only to find they have had it. Which counts as a positive result. This has been around longer than anybody realizes. You have to go by the death rates, which also includes anybody who has died of anything, they go on the covid death count if they have had it in the past or currently have it. The death rate is way lower than everybody thought also. This isn't about saving lives, it's about chaos and control.

This right here. Media says confirmed cases are rising. Creates chaos and panic. Causing more to get tested, which causes cases to rise. Death rates i am sure are dwindling(though i cant confirm), but it feeds their agenda of control through chaos. Everyone says “just wear the mask” but what happens when the government decides the mask is just not enough? We go back into full lockdown? We allow the government to seperate is again. We as human thrive on being social. The government is distancing us from each other. Creating a divide even amongst those who would typically see eye to eye in other cases. It’s all about creating an environment where we voluntarily put our selves into a form of solitary confinement.

originally posted by: bender151
a reply to: JFA13

Would be nice if people could avoid you. You sound like a real jerk. "Sorry, your health is not worth my mild inconvenience." I love reading stories about how people like you catch it and cry about the jerks they were. No sympathy for jokers like you. I only wish hospitals were allowed to refuse service to people like you.

Sorry you feel that way. I very much care for everyone on this earth I really do. When the truth about what is going on comes out I will be here for anyone and everyone who needs help through it.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: PhatalError

I don't think it's so much as a experiment to test limits as much as a media backed gov diversion hiding crimes and protecting the establishment while pretending there is a hidden enemy.
A giant negative force fighting Trump so you feel he's the best option, the underdog that needs our support.
'Cause if not the establishment, you will get the nazis.
Look no further than corporate sponsorship of the riots.
The obviously over the top news.
Trillions taken from taxpayers.

One of my initial theories was this was all to piss of citizens into starting a war.
The China bad stuff was being laid on prettt regularly.

I agree with that. They take seemingly “trivial” rights away from us, pissing off the right and libertarians. Add a bit of race wars to piss off the left and the remaining libertarians. Now you have a powderkeg of americans waiting for the fuse to be lit to create an all out civil war. We’re all primed and ready to blow. Up to TPTB to light the fuse. It’s not going to be pretty. I hope more wake up to it before the fuse is lit.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: PhatalError

I suggest you watch this video. It shows comparisons of wearing mask and not wearing a mask. It's pretty eye opening and shows what happens when someone breaths in and out. The Schlieren Imaging shows exactly what's going on. The mask may not stop everything. But it certainly does limit things. Wear the mask.

Masks only slow the virus down.

The problem is, the virus isn’t going to simply vanish.

So when the virus is finally slowed enough, we get to take off our masks. Which will only create an increase of spreading the virus. Especially, since ALL of our immune systems have now been COMPROMISED — from wearing masks!

It’s called logic and reasoning. You succumbing go masks NOW — will essentially lock you into wearing them for the rest of your damn life!

Masks come off = virus comes back strong

Time for another lockdown and mandatory masks

Wash, rinse, repeat

You people don’t know what you are signing ALL of us up for.

If ATS is still around in a couple years, I will be back to smear this in your face.

S & F Excellent OP!

a reply to: JFA13

Last time I checked South Korea is neitehr socialist nor communist, it is a republic.
Last time I checked Japan is neither socialist nor communist, its a parliamentary monarchy.

They both mandated masks.
You can add Germany to the list, etc etc etc

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: grey580

Yeah, that's great and all.
No can someone prove it's even a threat?
I'm not talking bad testing, contaminated testig and fake death classifications which were admitted to be lied about.
Can we address the doctors being silenced?
Can we address the steep drop off of deaths?
Can we separate the fake deaths from real ones?
Can we separate flu deaths?
Can we investigate the financial stake the experts have in lying?
Can we address the small business attack going on.
Not only allowing corporations to stay opened, shutting small businesses, giving tax dollars to corporations
to then finace the gd BLM rioters?
WITAF

Read it again peeps!

a reply to: PhatalError

Its definitely a concerning situation, particularly when considering that the same people profiting (in various ways) from this situation were also involved in decades long campaigns with exactly the same MO.

It seems basically everything we are doing is designed to exploit peoples fear response in order to further compromise immune systems. Even just basic stuff like the misunderstanding that "physically fit" equates to "healthy."

We have outliers being used to define the whole (yet another longterm tactic) on many fronts. Viral, and even just general "benign" illnesses, can have all of the same effects that are now solely attributed to The Virus. From long term damage to auto-immune disorders after infection to different blood types handling illness differently. Given that these exist for many pathogens.. The same exact tactics can be used in perpetuity.

Now, if they can potentiate this situation through things like mandatory vaccines and intentional virus interference.. We are looking at a situation where we literally become dependent on these organizations whether we like it or not. Corona vaccine is already being called the "people's vaccine."

And.. Why wouldnt they do this every year? So many suspect stock market deals to direct profits for massive corporations (and shareholders) just get swept under the rug of fear. Authoritarian and tyrannical control marches on. And quite beneficial to the same plans of global governance they have been pursuing for years. All under the auspices of "sustainability" and "good things."

All the while, next to no one is pursuing how to achieve self-sufficiency with modern technology. The closest many get is eschewing all tech completely, which takes them out of the "game."