Favorite Military Aircraft

Holy crap, the sheer SIZE of this thing!


AN-225

[Edited on 14-7-2003 by Pyros]

[Edited on 14-7-2003 by Pyros]

F6F HELLCAT

MOONLIGHT HELLCAT

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Mig-21 in all its variants!
"The MiG-21 is not known for its radar or hauling capabilities, nor for its target acquisition equipment or range, but its known that in many ways it was a pilot's plane. It doesn't have any computers or fancy navigation equipment. It very much depends on the pilot and his (hopefully) good training and experience. That, we all know now, was the MiG-21's Achilles verse in many of the wars it had to fight, and is responsible for the not so impressive combat records that it actually deserves."


[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Uninen]

Originally posted by Uninen
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Mig-21 in all its variants!

"The MiG-21 is not known for its radar or hauling capabilities, nor for its target acquisition equipment or range, but its known that in many ways it was a pilot's plane. It doesn't have any computers or fancy navigation equipment. It very much depends on the pilot and his (hopefully) good training and experience. That, we all know now, was the MiG-21's Achilles verse in many of the wars it had to fight, and is responsible for the not so impressive combat records that it actually deserves."

[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Uninen]

israeli mig-21 2000



[Edited on 16-7-2003 by $tranger]

...Last new build mig-21s were to the mig-21bis standard.. and even in that standart its avionics were inferior to the f-4 of usaf.. with radar range of 20-25km. I rest my case. Modified aircraft do not count..

The F-26 STALMA but only if the project works out.

Otherwise I would go with F - 111 Advark.

Mine is DEFIENTLY the F-14 Tomcat. Although a couple decades old by now, It still remains the NAVY's essential air superiority fighter. It's carries one of the most powerful aircraft mounted radar systems known to man. (AN/AWG-9) which was later replaced with the digital version the (AN/APG71). The F-14 Is alost the only aircraft in the Navy's arsenal that can carry the AIM-54 Phoenix Missle, The Navy's only long range air to air missle with a range in excess of 100 nautical miles. The F-14 was also designed to blow Migs out of the sky, And as far as i know, Its quite good at it



[Edited on 16-7-2003 by ThermoNuke]

Originally posted by ThermoNuke
Mine is DEFIENTLY the F-14 Tomcat. Although a couple decades old by now, It still remains the NAVY's essential air superiority fighter. It's carries one of the most powerful aircraft mounted radar systems known to man. (AN/AWG-9) which was later replaced with the digital version the (AN/APG71). The F-14 Is alost the only aircraft in the Navy's arsenal that can carry the AIM-54 Phoenix Missle, The Navy's only long range air to air missle with a range in excess of 100 nautical miles. The F-14 was also designed to blow Migs out of the sky, And as far as i know, Its quite good at it

[Edited on 16-7-2003 by ThermoNuke]

The Mig31 has got an greater range, with air-tot air refeulling the can fly over 10 hours missions
And the Mig-31's are designed to operate without GCI(Ground Controlled Intercept) or ACI (Air Controlled Intercept) The Mig-31 can operate as an mini-awacs. MiG-31s are most often used in group of four (or even eight), linked together by datalink. Operating together, four MiG-31s can cover a strip of territory 900 km (560 miles) across, and targets can be transferred rapidly from one aircraft to another, with all aircraft sharing the same image on their tactical situation displays
The F-14 can fly at speeds up to Mach 2 It has an Max mach number of 2.35 and and cruise mach number 1.2.
> > While the Mig-31 can fly mach 3 (only for twenty minutes) and the Mig 31 has and cruising speed of mach 2.35 and can fly at this speeds for an longer time
> > The mission radius of an Mig-31 used as an interceptor is 1135 nm. The mission radias of an F-14 is 500 nm. This is without refeulling.

[Edited on 16-7-2003 by jetsetter]

Quite good taking out migs? The f-14.. *Hmm* 2 libyan downgraded mig-23 variants (the s model?) and 2 su-22 of the same airforce.. have tomcats downed.. back into 80s (83 and 89?) ..that tells me only that libyans dont know how to fly..

I've got two.
The Spitfire and The Hurricane.

They saved my skanky butt.

You guys can scoof all day if you want to concerning the F-14, but the Russians (and $tranger, in all his stubborness over Russian aircraft) should atest to what I am going to say.......but the Russians actually feared that plane and the Pheonix system it utilized.

Fess up $tranger....be honest for once concerning US equipment.

regards
seekerof

when I think of dogfights I don't think they are the same these days as in WW II. So, I think the P51 was a great plane: Great range, great kill ratio, speed, etc. And being able to escort bombers all the way to their target must surely have helped end the war just a little sooner!

In terms of bombers I once stood directly under a B2 at an airshow during a fly by. The crowd, myself included, was in total awe. I can't explain it other than it just didnt seem like any aircraft I'd ever seen. Sounded different, was 'odd'.

the A10 is also a neat aircraft and also the F14 (ever since seeing Top Gun when I was a kid)

But if was forced to chose some other than Mig-21.. (witch is still my nro.1) I would chose F-18 c/d (In our airforce they are F- not F/A- as they are used only as interceptors and we have no air to ground weapons for them .. in Finland) It is allso quite impressive and i have seen those planes from very near.. (In Finnish defence force.. AAA shooting camp they flew with those target sorties for us.. over flew directly over me [and our gun position.. simulating a incoming fighter-bomber target] at 100m about 20 times.. great noise they make!)

[Edited on 6-8-2003 by Uninen]

f-14 Tomcat has always been my favorite ever since the old f-14 Tomcat VF-1 Wolfpack toys, I believe they were...

My all time favorite Western aircraft is F-4 Phantom II.
My favorite Soviet plane is MiG-21.

Originally posted by Uninen
...Last new build mig-21s were to the mig-21bis standard.. and even in that standart its avionics were inferior to the f-4 of usaf.. with radar range of 20-25km. I rest my case.

Modified aircraft do not count..

Every plane is built for a certain mission. It's not wise to demand a long range interceptor capability from a frontline fighter, isn't it? Will you ask an A-10 to be as good in BVR combat as an F-15? If an aircraft succeeds in a role it was built for then we can say it is a good one. Just ask Phantom II pilots who fell prey to the Vietnamese and Arabian MiGs.

It just has to be the Gruman F14 Tomcat

This Russian guy totally miss understood me.. My point in telling of mig-21s "bad avoinics" was to point out that even with these sortages it was in combat when flown by TRAINED pilots much better than American planes of same generation..

And other thing.. i really dont understand this F-14 hype.. sorry to tell you that it is obsolete (by now..) and a bad dogfighter.. It aint agile at all.. just clumsy and heavy.. Only good what it has is speed and range..

[Edited on 7-8-2003 by Uninen]

The MiG-25... fastest jet fighter of all time at Mach 3.2, well for now at least.







the jet kind of reminds me of a paper air plane but nethertheless it is an awsome piece of machinary sure it had crappy electronics but it has pheonomenal speed and rate of climb.

SU-25! What a great airplane. Feared by mujahideen soldiers!