Truck Drivers Say They Won’t Deliver To Cities with Defunded Police Departments

a reply to: TheRedneck

I am getting the sense you can't follow a conversation very well. And I've made allowances...

I answered all questions immediately after they were asked. Because you have a comprehension problem it's everyone else's fault. My very post where I first discussed my town PD being disbanded I said I live outside Detroit but that info was *gasp* news to you pages later. Just like a snowflake blaming others because they didn't hold your hand, guide you to the post and give a gold star for reading it.

What does a video of mentally unstable person have to do with this? You realize that the NYPD has actually said he is an NYPD Co-response Client. That means police have been dealing with him for a while where they respond to his incidents with social workers. *Gasp* Social Workers. And these same cops keep handing him Bench Tickets and he goes on his way to do it again. But that's okay with you because police reform is super scary and might inconvenience you.

The rest of your post is utter nonsense. I don't know if you are gish galloping or being purposely obtuse or what your particular problem is but either way it's not a convo I am interested in.

I get it. You are innately criminal with antisocial behavior tendencies and you require the govt to feed you, clothe you, medicate you, keep you from violating other's rights because you deserve yours and you will get it no matter what. And then at the end of the night the govt can kiss you on the forehead, tuck you into bed and keep the monsters away.

I don't have any interest in your socialist utopia where the US Constitution is abandoned because you are scared of change.

a reply to: Identified












Son, you are hilarious!

Just no longer worthy of my time.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Your ideas would let people like this assault old women walking down the street with impunity.

Kind of like how he did now with police officers already on the payroll of New York City? Did that stop him?

Police don't prevent crimes like this.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The NYPD is busy spinning this incident to explain why he has been arrested more than 100 times and hasn't gotten help.

Clearly the police aren't stopping him.

a reply to: Identified

It highlights one of the major issues we have here, that there is no effective help for people with mental illness.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

This is why I don't understand why people are so resistant to reform that deals with the mental health problems of many people who commit crimes.

People with mental health problems are also more likely to be killed by police so why wouldn't the police be eager to get these people out of their system so they aren't put into positions that require deadly force?

Lmao there's a ton of unemployed ppl that will deliver

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Blocking a street infringes on the rights of anyone who can't use it as a result. Blocking roads so truck drivers can't use them, infringes on their right to earn a living and use the roads they pay a lot of taxes to use.

It's gone way beyond legal protest unless only the protesters have rights, and no other persons rights are real.

If the protests are impacting you personally than you should contact your elected representative. If there is illegal activity you should report it.

I don't think I said it impacted me as I'm lucky enough to live in a city and state where things are a lot saner. The protests here have been problem free and I support them.

However, you don't need to look far to see mountains of proof of protesters violating peoples rights and having a financially damaging impact on businesses. With a straight face at least. It's clearly been about they have Rights, but others Rights don't matter. Including the occupation of both private and public property owned by ALL the residents.

Harmed businesses can't speak out, since the media and politicians don't think their Rights matter either.

Some care about the whole community. Others only care about themselves and feel entitled. It's just how it is.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Protesters are legally permitted to use streets, they need to move aside to allow egress or when instructed by police. If this is not happening then people need to report it. If they aren't reporting it then they have nothing to complain about.

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Blocking a street infringes on the rights of anyone who can't use it as a result. Blocking roads so truck drivers can't use them, infringes on their right to earn a living and use the roads they pay a lot of taxes to use.

It's gone way beyond legal protest unless only the protesters have rights, and no other persons rights are real.

If the protests are impacting you personally than you should contact your elected representative. If there is illegal activity you should report it.

I don't think I said it impacted me as I'm lucky enough to live in a city and state where things are a lot saner. The protests here have been problem free and I support them.

However, you don't need to look far to see mountains of proof of protesters violating peoples rights and having a financially damaging impact on businesses. With a straight face at least. It's clearly been about they have Rights, but others Rights don't matter. Including the occupation of both private and public property owned by ALL the residents.

Harmed businesses can't speak out, since the media and politicians don't think their Rights matter either.

Some care about the whole community. Others only care about themselves and feel entitled. It's just how it is.

I’m at a loss as to how any city in this country could allow this to happen, not to mention the fact that it’s continuing with no interruptions. I get the logistics of why it happened and why it’s being allowed; worthless mayor, governor, city officials, etc.....but jeez....people’s life’s are being negatively effected, take your city back for Christ sakes.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Do you really think that weeks of protests, right after the virus lockdown, has not caused a lot of harm to businesses on streets that have been pretty much taken over by protesters? Even big stores with lots of resources are closing locations permanently, because why bother?

Sadly some actually believe that the small business owners are walking money factories, when the truth is many earn little more than their employees do, while working long hours to stay afloat. Protests in front of them for weeks can and does wipe them out and even sadder, it wipes out in some cases a lifetime of hard work and sacrifice. The kids and yes most appear to be under 25, have no idea how badly they are trampling on other innocent peoples rights. They simply do not care.

Peaceful protest is a powerful tool and it's even more powerful when done in a way it does no harm to others and respects their rights. A lot of what has happened is the equivalent of an infantile temper tantrum. Not a single brain cell is used by some to consider the impact of how they protest.

Now back to the truck drivers; I can't imagine a case where protesters messing with them is justified.

a reply to: mtnshredder

I'm blessed to be where I'm living at this moment in history. Here the protests do no harm, even those who disagree are not vocally trying to stop them, and the two sides are actually talking to each other. Over 60% Independent and we are usually moderate and tolerant.

I've lived and worked in some of the giant, dirty cities full of gangs and big cities issues at various times in my life. I've seen the difference first hand. Nothing but tribes in those cities, all suspicious of each other and hateful towards each other. All screaming me, me, me.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: SolAquarius

I'm surprised about this honestly. Truck drivers would be happy to not get stopped by state patrol or police. Truck drivers have a lot more laws to abide by than regular commuters.

Whaaat, surely truck drivers love being scrutinized, I mean it's the best part of their day convincing authorities they are travelling within their legal limits, surely.

Not just legal weight limits but hours on the road is highly regulated.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Do you really think that weeks of protests, right after the virus lockdown, has not caused a lot of harm to businesses on streets that have been pretty much taken over by protesters? Even big stores with lots of resources are closing locations permanently, because why bother?

Protesting is legal. The end.

If there is illegal activity someone needs to report it.

a reply to: TheRedneck

We wouldn't be living in a mad max movie. DOT and other organizations would evolve to help humanity better, if police and state patrol were defunded out of existence.

I thought the point of this thread, is there another source besides the OP that truck drivers for logistic companies are protesting work because there are no police.

The app put out a poll to their users. I think the police are still operating? So this thread is all speculation?

Last I heard the shipping world is suffering from coronavirus. From land to sea.

Edit: George Floyd was a truck driver. RIP

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Why yes it is.

You do know blocking streets and highways is not legal right? In most cities, even if they chose to not enforce it out of fear, you get a permit and the city works with you to clear routes and keep people safe. That's not happening here though, which is sad. Even sadder is the ME, ME, ME crowd who don't give damn if what they do stomps all over peoples rights. But then they tell us that 2 to 3 percent of us are sociopaths.

Defacing peoples property is also not legal. There was a time only adolescents did stuff like that, but to be honest, a lot of the protesters are not for real anyway. They just get their rocks off causing trouble and damage and although they may be adults, they are adolescent minded.

Littering is illegal.

Like I said I support the protests in spirit, but not the bad actors. It's a shame that so many cities have such bad leaders and only enforce the law when it's politically convenient.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Do you really think that weeks of protests, right after the virus lockdown, has not caused a lot of harm to businesses on streets that have been pretty much taken over by protesters? Even big stores with lots of resources are closing locations permanently, because why bother?

Protesting is legal. The end.

If there is illegal activity someone needs to report it.

It is but not the way they’re going about it. What they’ve done is very illegal. You can’t just waltz into a neighborhood, barricade it and take it over. Although, that’s exactly what has been allowed to happen.

originally posted by: game over man
Last I heard the shipping world is suffering from coronavirus. From land to sea.

Not that bad for contract freight. Spot freight sucks still though.

Any truck driver that won’t drive in is clearly a racist.

originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Do you really think that weeks of protests, right after the virus lockdown, has not caused a lot of harm to businesses on streets that have been pretty much taken over by protesters? Even big stores with lots of resources are closing locations permanently, because why bother?

Protesting is legal. The end.

If there is illegal activity someone needs to report it.

It is but not the way they’re going about it. What they’ve done is very illegal. You can’t just waltz into a neighborhood, barricade it and take it over. Although, that’s exactly what has been allowed to happen.

Sitting at home typing in all caps ain't gonna change a thing, once desperate enough people take to the streets.