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Originally posted by SinCity702... untill the Catholic religion added it in their own words basically they made the whole Cross thing up, and that right their misguided many people. Also it is known even in Encyclopedias (correct my spelling) even stated that the Catholic Religion took out many words of the Bible and added their own.
Originally posted by stalkingwolf
there are several "what ifs" to add to this. What if, he was drugged to appear
dead to hasten his removal from the cross (granted that was nt a regular practice but Pilate seems tohave been open to monetary persuasion).
What if arrangements had been made for a healer to be waiting inside for him?
What if as do many holes in the groun this particular one (maybe selected for this reason) had a "back door."
what if the events talkied of took place not outside Jerusalem but outside
Qumran? There was a "tomb" located adjcent to a burial ground (place of the skull) that fits this scenerio.
Step 3: (where we are with this discussion?)
expose / chastise the guilty
take steps to prevent this in the future
Originally posted by Al Davison
to answer your question:
because they believed it to be true.
belief is not fact-based. people believed that the earth was flat and the center of the universe for how many hundreds of years? The Vatican was one of the main enforcers of this belief - it was heresy, with all the accompanying earthly punishments and promises of going straight to hell for anyone to say differently. So, whatever the Vatican says is truth? Not to me!
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
okay, lets just say Jesus was crucified on the cross and placed in the tomb. I do not see how he would have survived for 3 days. The rest of this post I really can not comment on, however I do believe that he died and rose again. But back to my statement. I do not see how Jesus would have survived for 3 days w/o food or water locked in a tomb bleeding to death. That is the point that I think is rather moot.
"At that time Jesus said to the crowd, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me. But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.
"Every day I was with you, teaching in the temple courts, and you did not arrest me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled." Then everyone deserted him and fled.