CoVID-19 Second wave reinfecting once healed patients

So you don't think that CoVID lays dormant in a person?
And don't say improper testing or defective tests, because these countries have corrected those mistakes.

Clinical characteristics of the recovered COVID-19 patients with re-detectable positive RNA test
www.medrxiv.org...

Cases of COVID-19 reinfection reported. Does that shatter immunity hopes? geneticliteracyproject.org...

Look at THIS, Hundreds of CoVID-19 virons pour out of an ruptured infected cell.

www.globalhealthnow.org...


They massively reproduce by the hundreds within a cell, undetected, until they burst forth invading your heart and lungs, while other infected cells, like a Trojan horse, wait to attack at another time!

51 recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea test positive again after release from quarantine. www.foxnews.com...



COVID-19: Can you get reinfected?
Professor Raina MacIntyre from UNSW Sydney answers more questions on COVID-19, specifically about reinfection of the virus.

I can't get the video to work so you will have to use the link.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Violater1

What are your qualifications to verify and explain a “computer” generated model?

P.s. the doom porn is old now; we’ve moved on. The cats out of the bag, the # has been cleaned off the fan....

Well at least the hysteria part; the economy from a grave overreaction is still very much a problem and I will direct my attention to that “actual” threat. Thanks though you’ve been super helpful.

I read it as saying something even worst than that.

suggesting the carrier status of virus possibly existed in patients recovered from COVID-19

It never leaves some people that get it.

a reply to: Violater1

51 recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea test positive again after release from quarantine.

Out of how many cases ?
You didn't do the math , did you ?
You know , ratios and proportions.
That math.

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
I read it as saying something even worst than that.

suggesting the carrier status of virus possibly existed in patients recovered from COVID-19

It never leaves some people that get it.

Some folks carry the root virus , dormant , anyhow.
Remember reading that somewhere.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Violater1

51 recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea test positive again after release from quarantine.

Out of how many cases ?
You didn't do the math , did you ?
You know , ratios and proportions.
That math.

Or if the ones testing positive the second time are now asymptomatic and non-shedding.

I have read it can retreat deep into the lungs and they can miss it with the swab test.

ETA - And don't forget all the bad test kits.

If it kills me, then so be it.

a reply to: Violater1


Doesn't mean bupkis their tests could be faulty or they aren't giving enough aftercare or they just need more time to develop enough antibodies to fight it off. South Korea has had 192 deaths in a population of 51 million people most densely packed together.

a reply to: Violater1

People can catch a severe cold more than once a year, also known as being infected again. It's not really an Earth shattering event, except when the news sensationalizes it for the goal of terrorizing people away from their rights.

notice a lot of deniers not any researching or discussion.

Who's on the disinformation payroll?

So you want fact figures and numbers triple double blind test and years worth or research on something that has happen in the last 3 months.

Think they have been trying to keep people alive, then worrying about spread, then worry about damage long term effects.

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From the video linked by the OP which is answering your questions by a identified Professor Raina MacIntyre from UNSW Sydney.
answer
"THEY DON'T KNOW, they are doing research"

The information on the website linked by the op

Is it possible to be reinfected with the novel coronavirus?

Reinfection is always a possibility with a viral infection, particularly if you have a subclinical infection and don’t mount much of an immune response against it. Reinfection is also possible within the window after the first infection and before you develop antibodies. That window can vary from a couple of weeks to a few months, depending on how much your immune system was triggered.

by Rachel Graham, PhD, is an assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology in the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health. She began actively studying coronaviruses just prior to the SARS-CoV pandemic in 2002–2003.


So they have more information than you more knowledge than you and are expression the current known facts so it's not doom porn its a possibility and a fact it has happened in the past with the same family of viruses.

Where as you deniers are simply nobodies with no qualifications and no input.
You are just running around screaming doom porn, doom porn, aaaaargh mummy.

Either add something other than an uneducated rant or just STFU.

a reply to: Violater1

I have no source for this but from what I have learned its not a actual "Live" virus it has a very thin protective coating that keeps it viable until disturbed once the protective covering is gone it has a short shelf life . Man Made .............

a reply to: Gargoyle91perhaps you need to do some research on what a virus is Start here

then you can go onto more relevant videos with a basic bit of information

Its time people started to at least have a discussion on the virus becoming dormant then flaring up once peoples antibodies become low.

Given that this may be the case those released or recover may infect others after some time once the virus again begins to multiply and spread.

Surviving the virus is one thing however becoming a non spreader of the virus is another.
At the rate the virus is infecting people doubling every week or so everyone in the USA will be infected within a years time.

There is a growing trend of people who believe that people should get the virus and just keep working for the sake of the economy, I understand its important to work however at the moment there is no cure for this virus and the virus may be much worse than people are being told.

For example it may continually attack its host attacking the brain, various organs like kidneys, and the heart. Continually attacking the immune system causing it to go haywire and attack itself.
The virus may flare up over and over again going dormant then flaring up again like a monthly cycle.
Even after death the virus may continue to multiply and spread in the dead tissue which I believe is the reason China burned bodies.

There is hope in various vaccines however the virus is mutating and may continue to spread year round.
The current situation looks like a dystopian sci fi and makes me think there must be a direction humanity will move in due to this virus. I am guessing it has everything to do with human evolution.


So as I see it phase one a year from now everyone has this virus.
Phase 2 various vaccines start to become mandatory giving people some resistance to the virus. People won't be able to live or interact with others in society without certain vaccines.
Phase 3 synthetic DNA introduced into vaccines
Phase 4 synthetic DNA becomes digital data which connects people to computers for instant upgrades.
Phase 5 genetic engineering with synthetic DNA becomes commonplace making humans programmable.
Phase 6 worldwide database has everyone's information

Ok.

So what's your solution then? Forcibly isolate everyone to their own personal modern leper hellholes and weld them in?

Because if that's a valid consideration, then so is admitting a vaccine is highly likely useless and a false promise, therefore we need to accept it's going to run it's course naturally one way or the other.

a reply to: puzzled2

You know I was going to argue with you but yeah the video ...

It's like poison .

a reply to: Gargoyle91

Have you watched the information from frontline doctors in California MedCram - Medical Lectures Explained CLEARLY

originally posted by: LookingAtMars
I read it as saying something even worst than that.

suggesting the carrier status of virus possibly existed in patients recovered from COVID-19

It never leaves some people that get it.

Exactly, just as Chicken Pox never left some of the people who got it. Would parents have thrown Chicken Pox parties if they knew that years later the virus could reappear as painful and debilitating Shingles? That is what Shingles is, grown up Chicken Pox virus that never left the body.

Just as the Herpes virus never leaves infected people. It lives on in the spinal cord, just as the Chicken Pox virus does.
It can reinfect and reinfect and reinfect over a lifetime. One of the many strains of Herpes not only reinfects it causes cancer of the penis and cervix.

However, instead of the person getting COVID 19 all over again, it appears the virus remains in the system for awhile then finally disappears from the evidence I have seen to date. That is what many viruses do, remain in small amounts in the body. That is why they are finding plasma from previously infected patients so effective in helping to "cure" people of the disease. They still have the virus in their system, but their immune system has tackled the virus and is effectively eating away at it to render it harmless to the person. From what I have seen of reports, this is the more likely case.

With most flu's the virus lingers detectable in the body for 5 or more days after the person feels well. They are no longer contagious (viruses are always most contagious just before one "gets sick") but still have the virus in their system and it can be found in blood tests.

COVID 19 is a combination of SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) which has not been shown to reinfect with illness, and a basically cold virus, and we don't see the same cold reinfecting a person over and over. The virus may linger after the person is well while the body fights off the remnants of the virus in the bloodstream. COVID 19 has been show to be directly made from SARS and another "cold" or coronavirus which is the generic name for common cold viruses. www.webmd.com... Since the root viruses that were combined to make COVID 19 do not reinfect with disease later, there is no reason to assume that COVID 19 will reinfect with disease later. So chill.

There WILL most likely be a second wave. Once lockdown is over and people go out in crowds, there will be some newly infected hanging around, not knowing they got it from an infected person weeks ago. It appears the time from infection to symptoms is as long as 2 weeks with this virus. Therefore, there will be a second wave, but it will be smaller as more people will have already had it, also there will be people like me who know a second wave will come who continue to self isolate and keep uber uber clean in everything they do - making the impact much much less and the death rate super super low. There may even be a third wave next fall before a vaccine is made public when kids go back to school and people start going to lots of indoor events due to colder weather. But that does NOT mean that previously ill patients are still contagious or even going to be sick again.

a reply to: Violater1

IF your doomsday scenario is correct. NO ONE will survive the virus in the end.

All of humanity will be wiped from the face of the earth.

This is exactly what AOC and many environmentalists on the far far left want, who are deeply involved in the Human Extinction Movement, which says the earth must be rid of humans to heal.

So I guess if you are right, everyone will die, humanity will be extinct. And poof, we are gone and the climate and mother earth will rejoice.

So what does it matter even trying to fight it if that is the case, if we are all doomed. Why fight it, why not have COVID 19 extinction parties so our children don't have to live through the hell of the future where everyone dies an agonizing death and even quarantine won't work.

If you are correct, you should begin encouraging people to just chuck it while they are healthy so they don't suffer. Because humanity will not evolve if you are correct, humanity will go extinct without a doubt if you are correct.

This isn't evolution of humanity, it is the extinction event. So you better be absolutely sure of what you are telling people, that it is positively without a doubt correct. Because if you keep spreading this, people will start chucking it with their children to avoid the inevitable horrific death they will have without a doubt. That will be on the heads of people like you who are spreading this as far and wide as possible.

smart people know when a person may be health challenged BUT manages to get well they can possibly get sick again back to back .
over a million cases so 54 or a 100 reoccurring would not be surprising .
But of corse its DOOM i tell you human race is Doomed .
look humans are doing the impossible as we chat changing the long term out come of a virus out brake .
fact is there would be 10 million infected at this point except for what we are tring to do .
so instead of MILLION dead it may only be 300 400 k world wide .
instead of BILLIONS sick it may be 30 million sick word wide a massive difference .
why does every one keep wanting it to be MILLIONS befor they admit this virus is not a game not a joke and even with every thing we are tring to do people will be dieing alot more offton as its NOT ever going away .
every keeps saying flue kills 80 k wolrd wide every year well this one even AFTER the first out brake will easly beat thouse numbers so you can add another 125 k every year from now untill forever .