New Chinese virus 'will have infected hundreds'

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China’s National Health Commission has confirmed human-to-human transmission of a mysterious Sars-like virus that has spread across the country and fuelled anxiety about the prospect of a major outbreak as millions begin travelling for lunar new year celebrations.

Hopefully China gets ontop of this quickly

Scientists are yet to fully understand how destructive the new virus, dubbed 2019-nCoV, might be. Researchers and investigators are just beginning to understand where it originated, how it is transmitted, how far it has spread and what symptoms patients present with.

As of Jan. 20, case numbers have skyrocketed to over 200 in China and abroad. Chinese authorities also confirmed health workers have been infected with virus, suggesting it has achieved human-to-human transmission. As a result, authorities are taking steps to guard against its spread and the WHO will convene an Emergency Committee to explore whether the virus constitutes a public health emergency on Wednesday, Jan. 22. Researchers believe the amount of cases may be higher than current reports suggest and three US airports have begun to screen incoming passengers for signs of illness, as have busy airports in Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and Malaysia.

Everything we know about the deadly new virus

The 32-year-old's symptoms appear to be consistent with the Chinese coronvirus which has officially been contracted by at least 139 people while three deaths have been reported, sparking fears of a pandemic.

But with Ashley's parents by his bedside while he relies on a ventilator to breathe, there are concerns the Chinese authorities are keeping the true scale of the issue under wraps, reports the Sun .

Fears Brit backpacker struck down with deadly flu-like Chinese virus in Thailand

The Chinese government is not know for it's transparency. Chances are they are downplaying this to the media.

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A Brisbane man is in isolation after returning from a family holiday to a Chinese province with a respiratory illness.

Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said he is recovering at home but will undergo further tests for the new coronavirus, which has already proved deadly overseas.

The state’s health department hopes to have the test results within a few days, the Courier-Mail reports.

The number of cases of “2019-nCoV”, which causes a type of pneumonia, has surpassed 220 across the globe and authorities are concerned it could spread quickly.

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This virus pandemic, crap scares me more than wars. We ARE OVER DUE. Last one was the Spanish, flu. This may not be it, but it could be just a mutation away. I wish, sometimes, we paid more attention, to this stuff, instead of the goofy, politics reruns.

If this really spreads human to human and we have people flying on planes in SIGNIFICANT numbers this week... this is a major issue.

Its gone international... its novel and originated from animals.

and its killing medical workers who are treating patients.

warning signs

Whatever the Chinese govt says, double or triple the people have died and been infected. Wife is Chinese from central China and word is its much worse than being let on.

It’s also rumored that this was man made and done with intention. Wife’s sources usually very good.

There’s another rumor that this was released in Hong Kong to stop protestors and it didn’t take there. Then someone flew to Wuhan from HK and it spread. Not sure I buy this but it is plausible. SARS started in southern China and only spread north via travel.

And the kicker, Spring Festival aka Chinese New Year is next week and it’s the largest annual migration of people in the world. Somewhere between 100 to 250 million people will travel inside China back to their birthplace to visit family. Add to that about another 5 to 10 million who will travel abroad.

Its going to get really bad.....

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
If this really spreads human to human and we have people flying on planes in SIGNIFICANT numbers this week... this is a major issue.

Its gone international... its novel and originated from animals.

and its killing medical workers who are treating patients.

warning signs

I remember sars my favorite underage liqure store owner was from that part of China he went home n never cameback

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China and other countries affected by a novel coronavirus will jointly attend an emergency meeting convened by the World Health Organization (WHO) on Wednesday night, confirmed China's foreign ministry on Tuesday.

WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus will convene the emergency committee.

Dr. Tedros wrote on Twitter that the emergency meeting will ascertain whether the coronavirus constitutes a public health emergency of international concern and what recommendations should be made to manage the outbreak.

As of Tuesday, four countries – China, Japan, South Korea and Thailand – have reported confirmed cases caused by the novel virus.

The first thing we need are WHO officials in Chinese hospitals getting accurate numbers. I get a sense China is panicked - the spread is far worse but they cannot admit it

originally posted by: Bicent
This virus pandemic, crap scares me more than wars. We ARE OVER DUE. Last one was the Spanish, flu. This may not be it, but it could be just a mutation away. I wish, sometimes, we paid more attention, to this stuff, instead of the goofy, politics reruns.

Truly.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
Whatever the Chinese govt says, double or triple the people have died and been infected. Wife is Chinese from central China and word is its much worse than being let on.

It’s also rumored that this was man made and done with intention. Wife’s sources usually very good.

There’s another rumor that this was released in Hong Kong to stop protestors and it didn’t take there. Then someone flew to Wuhan from HK and it spread. Not sure I buy this but it is plausible. SARS started in southern China and only spread north via travel.

And the kicker, Spring Festival aka Chinese New Year is next week and it’s the largest annual migration of people in the world. Somewhere between 100 to 250 million people will travel inside China back to their birthplace to visit family. Add to that about another 5 to 10 million who will travel abroad.

It's hard for me to believe any government would be so stupid as to release a novel virus so close to their own home without a vaccine or antidote. Unless you/they think they also want to kill off their own people?

Cripes, that twist of the Chinese New Year travel is scary.

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apparent screen shots of wechat messages exist showing there's more going on in local hospitals than reported.

Anyone able to prove if these are fake?

"Hospitals won't identify the virus of patient now"

"They won't send an ambulance if they hear 'fever' or 'pneumonia' over the 120 emergency hotline"

"If you send patients there, they won't be allowed to get off the ambulance"[1/4]

"The Grade 3A (highest standard) hospitals in #Wuhan are all overrun by patients"

"My younger sister is a doctor in Wuhan Union Hospital. She said it's very serious now."

"All the information about the infection was locked down" [2/4]

"It's very serious, a friend's relative is nursing officer of Wuhan Tongji Hospital, she saw what happened & urged the family to cancel New Year's dinner in restaurant"

"There's quarantine zone & suspected cases in every hospital; the infection is more serious near Hankou"[3/4]

"I asked a doctor, it's true. Four people were deceased just in his ward, numerous medical staff were infected"

"He's from the Central Hospital of Wuhan (No.2), and he is not even from the respiratory ward" [4/4]

CCP released some new numbers

Latest on #WuhanPneumonia in China:
-Tianjin confirmed 2 cases of infection with #coronavirus
-Zhejiang Province confirmed 5 cases
-Taiwan confirmed 1 case

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My wife’s WeChat is filled with this everyday until the censors get to it.

As to the other post, having lived in China for over 10 years I can say with full conviction I have no doubt the CCP would be happy if about 20-30 million men dropped dead.

Go read about the Cultural Revolution sometime and not the Wikipedia page. Then realize the guys who run China now are the ones who were raised by monsters or as in Xi Jinpings case turned their own father into the police.

Aus news is saying 6 now confirmed dead, 258 cases and 15 medical are infected, Taiwan has its first case also.
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The death toll from the new coronavirus outbreak has risen to six in China's central city of Wuhan, the city's mayor has told state television.
A total of 258 cases had been confirmed in the city by the end of Monday, Zhou Xianwang said in an interview.
Separately, China's eastern Zhejiang provincial health authority said a total of five cases of new coronavirus were confirmed as of Tuesday.
Earlier, authorities confirmed that a new virus could be spread through human contact, reporting 15 medical staff had been infected.

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If they’re saying medical staff are infected already then it’s going to be real bad.

Many in China have stared traveling this week for Spring festival.

How the Chinese Spread SARS

May 29, 2003

Communist China’s long obsession with secrecy is one cause of the present SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) crisis. This passion for secrets—protected by lies—can involve events more than forty years ago, and it is heightened by a conviction common to all Communist countries: any disaster, natural or man-made, can reflect badly on the Party, the government, officials, and of course all citizens. Low-ranking officials who cannot conceal secrets will not rise through the hierarchy, and the highest officials hesitate before telling some or all of the truth.

China’s law on informing the public about disease is plain. According to a law jointly promulgated on January 23, 1996, by the Ministry of Public Health and the State Bureau for the Protection of State Secrets, “highest level infectious diseases” are classified as “highly secret.” This secrecy extends from the first occurrence of the disease until the day it is announced.

This is why throughout the spring most Chinese Web sites and forums that referred to SARS were usually blocked, although rumors circulated about the disease and its rapid spread. China’s minister of health, Zhang Wenkang, and Beijing’s mayor, Meng Xuenong (among many others), assured the public that there was no danger and that SARS was under government control. Both officials have recently been removed from office and the regime now says it is giving out accurate information about the disease. (As of April 30, according to the World Health Organization, there had been 3,460 cases in China, with 159 deaths, while 1,332 people recovered.) A Shanghai doctor, an expert on epidemic diseases, expressed a view familiar in official circles when he said, “You foreigners value each person’s life more than we do because you have fewer people in your countries. Our primary concern is social stability, and if a few people’s deaths are kept secret, it’s worth it to keep things stable.”

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CCP is the root problem, and it goes back many decades, they had Soviet advisers there in the cold war era so the communist tactics, lenin and all that was first learned, then they make it even more efficient , so it`s like on steroids now.

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Brisbane Aus guy just been cleared 11:00 pm ADST 21/01

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Not to go to far OT but everything broken in China all can be traced to the CCP. This includes their reduction of Written Mandarin to a simplified system.

It will be interesting to see numbers this week as Xi just issued a proclamation that no one in govt will hide info, numbers, diagnosis or people. It will be all “centrally adjusted” just like the GDP is. They like their info silos.

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IIt will get interesting yes, at least we can start see some reliable data about the virus from other countrys. I dont trust Xi ...

This goes OT , but remember how in the other communist state USSR the Communist party officials dithered, delayed and hid the truth about chernobyl nuclear accident, it just looks like hiding the truth is in genes with the communist ideology, USSR or China .