New study shows Testosterone Levels in American Males are Dropping Dramatically. Why?

a reply to: Waterglass

Or maybe its nothing at all.

I am always very suspicious of "studies" that report their results in percentages rather than actual numbers.

I am also suspicious of a study that reports a finding that is about 30 years old with the words "hope OTHER studies confirm these findings"

Those words are simply code for "could you give us more money?" And google the "Crisis of Reproducability"

This study is epidimiology and it is well known that super large numbers of these types of studies cannot be reproduced and therefore the results are highly questionable.

Only 4 or 5 thousand men is a very small sample to represent half the population of about 150 million. Choose your sample correctly and you could use this study to sell "testosterone boosters" to scared men.

a reply to: Waterglass

It's really just bad polling techniques. All the males were liberal Democrats from blue states.

Rasmussen recently did a testosterone poll of Trump voters in red states and the levels were off the charts!

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee
I'd say its probably just evolution.

The need for men to be physically strong and protective (in some cultures) - - has diminished.

Women don't need men.

Dude, knock it off. A guy could walk up to you and knock you out in one swing. Without a man by your side, you'll be robbed blind and hospitalized. But thanks for proving my point that liberalism has pushed the idea to the sheep that women don't need men. Y'all need real men, though, not soy boys you can beat up.

Where the hell do you live?

Real man?

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Waterglass


Rasmussen recently did a testosterone poll of Trump voters in red states and the levels were off the charts!

Must be all those "real" men.

Contamination.

As an example, the coating used on thermal receipts wreaks havoc on the human body.

I worked in mental health for a number of years, and the practice for wasting meds was (and still is, as far as my nurse wife tells me) just flushing it down a drain with a witness. I'd assume the same can be said across the medical world. While I drink R/O water/bottled water, im 100% certain that the process doesn't remove the result of medications for the most part.

We poison ourselves for convenience (and vanity). Then stand with palms facing upwards acting like we have no idea what is wrong with us.

I'm thinking plastic and phthalates are major contributors to this. PVC's in plastic, which basically runs through our veinsthese days, and phtlates which are in numerous health/beauty products and fragrances, such as Glade and other air fresheners. We are saturated with fragrances and plastics these days and have been for a couple of decades significantly.

Phthalates have been banned in other countries and have shown to be endocrine disruptors and lower testosterone. The word fragrance listed as an ingredient often means phthalates and is not disclosed as such due to "trade secret laws" protection claiming protection for recipe or formula rights...convenient huh? Think about fragrance emitters at home and work and our cars...basically with every breath of our day and night. Most contain formaldahyde , which also reduces testosterone. Perfume/colognes and air fresheners are everywhere.
Phthlates have been found in food and the eggs of birds as well as fish.

BPA linked to lower testosterone
Link
chemical banning in other countries
Harm from air fresheners

We started using essential oils for fragrance in our home and use natural detergents and cleaning agents now to try and make some kind of difference. Sad thing is too that these chemicals are carcinogens as well so they may increase risk of cancer.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee
I'd say its probably just evolution.

The need for men to be physically strong and protective (in some cultures) - - has diminished.

Women don't need men.

Dude, knock it off. A guy could walk up to you and knock you out in one swing. Without a man by your side, you'll be robbed blind and hospitalized. But thanks for proving my point that liberalism has pushed the idea to the sheep that women don't need men. Y'all need real men, though, not soy boys you can beat up.

Where the hell do you live?

Real man?

NW Louisiana like it says under my profile picture. You women who think you can live without men love to go after those frail little skinny hipsters or the ones who go to the gym everyday but couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack. A man needs a woman just as bad as a woman needs a man. Both are very important, especially when it comes to raising children. But it also takes a real woman to be with a real man because they know how to compromise.

a reply to: M4ngo

Excellent contribution

a reply to: Annee

Rasmussen recently did a testosterone poll of Trump voters in red states and the levels were off the charts!

Hillary's undesirables. Yes the Front Porch Logic Crowd. I seen em with my own eyes when we took a wrong turn in West Virginia one day just outside Beckly heading towards North Carolina. Loads of appliances and cars strewn all over the front yards and Washer and Dryer on Front Porch. The front yard stuff is their 401K plan. I swore one kid on the front porch was a deliverance look alike!

Plus! Dental Plan? Was that? But that's it. Its all in the Fluoride.

a reply to: LSU2018

Ill tell you my experience after 24 years of marriage to a latina

We get in where we fit in. It has nothing to do with gender roles, and everything to do with individual ability. She is much more nurturing than me, and filled that role well with our 2 boys. I am a much better logical thinker, and thus handled finances for the household better. She has viewpoints that are far more socially adept than I do, and thus filled the role of family representative, as well as passing on this social knowledge on to our kids. I am a better cook, and have cooked upwards of 90% of our families meals.

But above all: we both have a voice, and as a general rule do not make decisions in a vaccuum. We talk to each other (and never told the kids to "ask your mom" or something passive like that). We support each other, and recognize each others needs. Can we afford for her to miss work due to a bad right knee? No, but ill be damned if she is going to suffer undue hardship by making herself go. We will just figure it out.

There aren't "real men" and "real women". There are people,a nd smart people just get in where they fit in and try to combine to make the best team possible.

a reply to: Waterglass

Why?

Why are testosterone levels dropping?

Because real men don't need communism or socialism to take care of their families.

Real men don't need government telling them what to eat, drink, smoke, wear, or think.

Government is doing this through chemicals in the water, social engineering, to create a population of effeminate soy-boys so they can be easily led around with their degrees in gender studies, chin-beards, top-knots and rainbow sweater vests.

But then again, that's just my opinion.

well the 'toxic' nature of masculinity is bad (so the mantras insist), so this is good i guess. maybe it's a plan.

Very true...it crushes a mans testosterone levels and it destroys magnesium and b12 in many men.. a reply to: M4ngo

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I would consider that a real man and a real woman. Y'all compromise, y'all stand beside each other. There are women out there who think their rules and thoughts are what's best for the kids and don't take yours into consideration. If my wife tells my son to do something or gives him advice (unless it's completely over the top - which it never is), I back her up and she does the same for me.

Your opinion is fact based...a reply to: DBCowboy

The real question here is...what do we do about it? I have suggestions but limited time...will respond later...a reply to: Waterglass

Testosterone is literally Hitler.

a reply to: Bigbrooklyn

I have been thinking about this. Becoming a Muslim male has many benefits. Think about how the USA was back in the 1950's. I read books about those times. Wow!

a reply to: LSU2018

Ill tell you, social media reinforces the worst in us. The largest users of social media seem to be the shallowest thinkers. And 90% of what they post are images/memes that seek validation for maladaptive viewpoints/behaviors.

Its not like social media doesn't do the same. Locally in my prior hometown today, it was newsworthy that a group of girls decided to take a welding class. I know its unusual, but its absolutely not newsworthy beyond maybe a mention in the news paper. This is stuff being put on nightly news broadcast from a station located over an hours drive away. The responses of nonsense like "girl power" and whatnot seem to affirm that there are low expectations for girls to begin with, as its validating a choice that, to me, seems to be well within the bounds of what we should consider normal. On the one hand media will blast sexism, while in the other they'll seek to propagate it by pretending that girls welding is something that we all need to be seen in a showcase.

Men bashing, women bashing...all the horsecrap you expect to see in from the lowest common denominators in our society is on full display and fully supported by people who should know better.

a reply to: dogstar23

Correct, I was experiencing slight prostate issues, drank 3-8 IPAs a day for years.

I stopped drinking beer, 2.5 years ago, developing problem gone