House Republicans Storm Secret Impeachment Hearing Today

BTW, even the few Republicans whom have access to all the conversations, and evidence, presented in the SCIF CAN NEVER say whether or not what Schiff releases to the public is the truth or another lie. Neither will most representatives, nor most Senators will have access to that information...

Only Schiff, as the Chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, will be able to tell the public whatever he wants to tell the public, and no one else will be able to tell the truth...

Unless that is someone else whom is part of the Select Committee on Intelligence decides to leak the truth, but if they do they will be brought up on charges by Schiff...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Which means Schiff won't release the actual transcripts

Of course not. At least not now. That would invalidate the whole purpose of the closed door hearings.

What part of "ALL representatives and ALL of the Senators should have access to all info and be able to cross-examine all witnesses" do you not comprehend?...

As previously stated, when the investigation is completed, and the articles are drafted and approved by the Judiciary, they will be referred to the entire House for a a vote, and then the entire Senate for a "trial." Hence, ALL will have the access after the investigation/inquiry.

It isn't that complicated, EU.

What part of "Schiff plans to lie once again to the public which is why he wants to do impeachment only through a SCIF" do you not comprehend?...

Again, for those in the back: Republicans are ON the three committees conducting the hearings.

originally posted by: Liquesence

Of course not. At least not now. That would invalidate the whole purpose of the closed door hearings.

For crying out loud... Schiff will NEVER release the actual transcripts... Do you not understand that Schiff and other democrats want to hide the truth, and instead Schiff, Pelosi et al want to claim another lie?...

That's the only reason why Schiff and democrats want impeachment proceedings to start, and continue in a SCIF. Because they will control all information, and they can claim whatever they want occurred within the SCIF and no one, except Schiff, will be able to corroborate or deny what happened...

originally posted by: Liquesence
Again, for those in the back: Republicans are ON the three committees conducting the hearings.

And the few that are there WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL THE TRUTH...EVER... If they do they will be brought up on charges by Schiff... It is not that hard to understand "Liquesence..."

Do you like being lied to? Like Schiff lied to you for years claiming he had 100% evidence that POTUS Trump colluded with Russia?...

Or the made up BS Schiff wrote, and read, claiming it was what POTUS Trump told the Ukrainian President, when it was all MADE UP BY SCHIFF?...

It seems you do LIKE being lied to... Or you are simply dishonest, and don't want an honest, and open investigation...

Yes, representatives of the House do have close door proceedings during impeachment, but they ALL have (or should have) complete access to all information and all witnesses presented by both democrats AND Republicans... It is how impeachments are supposed to be done.

Even during the adjudication by the Senate none of the transcripts nor conversations done in the SCIF will be available to the Senators, only whatever Schiff wants them to know will be available to them...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Can you not understand that most of the representatives in the House, or in the Senate DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WHATEVER IS DISCUSSED IN A SCIF?

The investigation is being conducted by 3 committees that are made up of both Democrats and Republicans. ALL members of those committees (Republican OR Democrat), and ONLY the members of the committees (Republican or Democrat) have immediate access to the testimony given in the deposition.

As it happens, 25% of the entire Republican representation in the House has access to the SCIF meetings. Much less than 25% of the Democrats have access to those meetings (do the math yourself - there are more Democrats, but the committees are almost 50/50). NO ONE is being disadvantaged here. You argument is 100% invention and diversion.

Where the hell did I write that The House of Representatives is a room or a building?...

When you said the impeachment has to be 'started' in the House of Representatives not in a SCIF that is EXACTLY what you were trying to imply to the slow of thought. You are indigenously toying with language in order to sow confusion.

Furthermore, the impeachment has not been 'started', nor is it taking place in a SCIF. What is ongoing is an ENQUIRY into the behaviour and actions of the President of the United States, a person who has made it clear that he will stop at nothing to silence, ridicule, and harass witnesses who have evidence to provide. Suborning witnesses is a Federal felony. 'Outing' whistleblowers and retaliating against them or otherwise interfering with them is a Federal felony.

This is an extremely important matter and it does nothing but disservice for you to play with words to bend straight up facts in to outrageous lies. Defend the President with facts or law, but stop trying to destroy the Constitutional processes.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What part of "all evidence and conversations within a SCIF is presumed restricted from public disclosure" do you not comprehend?

A SCIF is a secure conference room. Nothing less. Nothing more. It is NOT some magic realm occupied by spooks. To the extent that it is used to discuss national security issues, yes, it is assumed that stuff is not discussed outside the SCIF. But SCIF's can also be used for privacy for matters that have nothing to do with national security, like witness protection and stuff like that. SCIFs can be set up in hotel rooms or even cars. There is nothing magic about them, except that to satisfy military purposes for national security they have to meet certain standards.

Watch a TV cop show once in a while. Notice how when people are being interviewed, whether suspects or just folks with information, it is in a sound proof room (not necessarily a 'full on' SCIF) and only those folks authorized to be there are there. It is because the statement must be given in private, to protect the witness AND the integrity of the investigation. The person giving the statement about a crime can have their lawyer in the room. But if that person is not the suspect, the suspect or his representative cannot be in that room or hear that statement.

In general, the tapes of those statements are not played back in the trial. Instead, the witness is asked to repeat the statement UNDER OATH on the witness stand.

When the Committee investigations have completed, PUBLIC hearings will be held to determine if there is a case to answer and to draw up Articles of Impeachment if so. ONLY THEN will the full House of Representatives vote on the Articles of Impeachment presented to them. If they vote to impeach, then the impeachment process begins and the Senate must hold a trial where all relevant evidence must be presented in order for the 'prosecution' to make its case to the 'Jury'.

That is the EXACT process followed during Watergate and during Blowjobgate.

AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A SCIF or any other location that investigatory meetings were held.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The general public, as well as most of the Senators in the House, do not have access to anything said in a SCIF...

There are exactly ZERO Senators in the House.

Just sayin'.

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

Nonsense. It isn't unlawful at all, none of the Reps have a security clearance in fact. Classified material is shared at the sole discretion of the Executive branch (which controls all classified material/process except Atomic energy)

Somehow I doubt the Executive branch will prosecute Republicans who do their legal, moral, ethical, and patriotic duty to resist/obstruct/thwart this criminal coup attempt by illegitimate occupiers of certain government offices by any means necessary.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: RexKramerPRT

Nonsense. It isn't unlawful at all, none of the Reps have a security clearance in fact. Classified material is shared at the sole discretion of the Executive branch (which controls all classified material/process except Atomic energy)

Nonsense.

Subject matter responsible House and Senate committees are authorized by law to review "classified material". Committee members most certainly DO have security clearance to view that material. That is exactly why there are SCIFs in the Capitol Building - to hear classified testimony and other 'classified material'.