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originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: alldaylong
no, the US was created by people leaving tyrany of Brittain behind.
No it wasn't.
It was created by businessmen who wanted to make money.
Ever heard of The Virginia Company, The East India Company etc. ?
Go learn some history.
.I guess England is guilty of everythin the US ever did
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: NotSoBigG
I'm not especially impressed with how this has been and is being handled... but having said that, what exactly do you think she's guilty of? And how do you think this should have played out? How do you think it would have played out if she hadn't fled?
Do you think she committed first degree murder? In other words, do you think this was a deliberate and pre-meditated crime? Second degree? Reckless manslaughter? Negligent manslaughter? Do you think she was drunk or otherwise under the influence of mind altering substances? What is the crime that she committed?
From everything I've seen, it was an accident. A tragic and horrible accident, and I can't imagine the pain of the parents. But neither do I want anyone thrown in jail for an accident. Do you? What purpose would that serve?
Wouldn't it be more practical and just if she were appropriately fined? And a settlement to the family for the wrongful death she caused?
originally posted by: Moley
Please, enough with the bitching, guys. No point beating each other up.
An accident happened and then diplomats immunity got invoked (rightly or wrongly).
Anne Sacoolas should not return, I mean what do they want to do anyway? breath-test her now 6 weeks later?
It is tragic, most parents would shout and scream a bit, and then accept it and move on.
I've got a bad feeling that these parents are simply being vindictive, wanting a head to roll, and making a huge fuss to get compensation and plenty of it.
The motorcyclist kid is probably worth more to them dead than alive. Sad but likely true.
originally posted by: contextual
We should boot every US diplomat out.
originally posted by: NotSoBigG
OK, this is my first thread and I just have to get this off my chest! Anne Sacoolas is the wife of a US diplomat who was based in the UK. She killed a 19 year old Harry Dunn after driving on the opposite side of the road smashing into his bike and rendering him dead. All completely her fault! She was interviewed by UK police and PROMISED not to leave the country during the investigation.
Guess what? Just like the filthy coward that she is, she absconded back to the US after promising that she wouldn't and is now hiding behind diplomatic immunity. Trump has said that she will not be returned and is basically tossing the situation away and claiming "it happens"!
Now, let is say the same thing occurred on US soil involving the family of a British diplomat. The US would scream holy # if the said person came back to the UK and never returned, diplomatic immunity or not! This is rank hypocrisy, and a brilliant example of how the US thinks its above laws in other countries, but expect their laws to be followed complicity.
The point being she has used diplomatic immunity to avoid any proper investigation or potential trial.
If a genuine accident fair enough, if she has been driving in dangerous manner then then she be tried just as anyone else would be.