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Originally posted by CmptrN3rd5
Thats exactly how it will happen marg and that is exactly what I believe! These were not creations of God but attempted creations of man by fallen angels.
Originally posted by mwm1331
A lot of people, myself included, like to knock fundamentalist creatonism, However given that this is a conspracy site ask yourself this. If the bibles account of genesis were litterally true, and the entire world was less than 10-20,000 years old. Further assuming that the creationists are right and all the geological evidence for evolution were "planted by the devil", how would we know?
How can we sit at our computers, discussng reptlians, aliens, the NWO, the illuminati, without at least considering that the geological evidence of evoultion and the age of the earth was planted by either god or the devil?
Originally posted by marg6043
No to worry Fred the creationist will find a way to link it to an abomination or they will find a place for it in the bible and then blame it on bad data and Satan
Even if they find a frozen caveman that will come to life the bible followers will discredit it just for the fact of not been in the bible.
Originally posted by PlausibleDeniability
Wow the last line of that article was definitly not needed, Im guessing you put that there as an attempt to stir the waters, but I could be wrong.
Such incredible intolerence, its a sad day when people that think aliens created us in THEIR image get more respect then Christians do. No one catches more flak then Christians, well I take that back, Muslims are recieving a good dose of hate right now as well. Its funny how all much hateful and offensive comments are thrown at Christians and how nobody says a thing against it.
Whats even more funny is that if I went off and said half the things about say...Wiccans or New Agers that some say about Christians, Id be blasted off the face of ATS.
I for one will not go around hating people for what they believe, I will not call people who believe differently then me ignorant, stupid, or any other insult you can think of. I tolerate others, wow what a concept. And to top it off, I tolerate them without constantly and purposely offending them and I do not obsess over proving them wrong.
I swear I could have read something about the whole respect/tolerence/deny hate thing on ATS, but apparently Christians got left out of the loop.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
First of all.........the "Lucy" find was a fake. "She" is a composite of several bones some of which were found upto 1.5 miles away from the original "site". So don't get too excited.....................
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
Originally posted by PlausibleDeniability
Wow the last line of that article was definitly not needed, Im guessing you put that there as an attempt to stir the waters, but I could be wrong.
Originally posted by FredT
Originally posted by DrHoracid
First of all.........the "Lucy" find was a fake. "She" is a composite of several bones some of which were found upto 1.5 miles away from the original "site". So don't get too excited.....................
Ah the good doctor.. Theology is it? AT any rate lets see how many of these fit here shall we?
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
We did this a while back, still 0 for 10 there Freddy.........
The facts are Lucy was faked............it has nothing to do with "creationisim". Just bad science.............
Originally posted by DrHoracid
First of all.........the "Lucy" find was a fake. "She" is a composite of several bones some of which were found upto 1.5 miles away from the original "site".
www.talkorigins.org...
Another example involving numerous creationists is the claim that Donald Johanson discovered "Lucy's" knee joint 2 km away from the rest of the skeleton. This claim was first made in the Bible-Science Newsletter by Tom Willis in 1987, and has since been repeated by Walter Brown, John Morris, Paul Taylor, Russell Arndts, and Michael Girouard. But it's false, apparently based on a misunderstanding at a Q&A session at the University of Missouri attended by Willis. Johanson did find a knee joint 2 km away from "Lucy," but he never claimed that this knee joint was "Lucy"'s. I gave a copy of a letter from Johanson describing the facts of the matter to Girouard in person at an ICR seminar, and he claimed he would read it carefully and respond to any letters I wrote him. I wrote him in December of 1989 and never received a reply. Brown was also informed of the facts of the matter, in both the pages of Creation/Evolution and of Origins Research. In both cases he responded with new claims about "Lucy" which had nothing to do with the knee joint--he just ignored the issue at hand. (Origins Research didn't print my followup.) My letter to Tom Willis received no reply. My letter to the Bible-Science Newsletter (in response to Arndts' more recent repetition of the false claim) went unpublished and I received no reply...
Originally posted by godservant
The Genesis is not a literal account of how it all began, each day of the week symolizes each stage of creation - hence the 6 days.
Archeology has found evidence of man and technology older than what should be.
Also, visions and enlightenments show man has been here for a while - going through cycles.
Man advances, kills themselves, restart.
We evolved, maybe, but something helped us along.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by DrHoracid
First of all.........the "Lucy" find was a fake. "She" is a composite of several bones some of which were found upto 1.5 miles away from the original "site".
This is completely incorrect.
Lucy is not a composite
www.talkorigins.org...
and
Here is Lucy. Its an indivual, not a composite.