Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

a reply to: neutronflux

Still looking for bodies? It shouldn't be that hard since you know everything else...

originally posted by: openedeyesandears
a reply to: neutronflux

Still looking for bodies? It shouldn't be that hard since you know everything else...

There are photos of dead passengers if you are into that sort of thing.

Then what remains were released to the families of those who died on flight 77.

Charles Frank "Chic" Burlingame III (September 12, 1949 – September 11, 2001) was the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77,

Burlingame was buried in the Arlington National Cemetery.


en.m.wikipedia.org...

Always remember: Suzanne Calley of San Martin died when terrorists flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon

gilroydispatch.com...

Two years after that fateful day when Calley, 42, perished Sept. 11 alongside 183 other victims at the Pentagon site, Jensen cremated his wife’s body. Her remains were first pulled by rescue crews from the twisted wreckage of Flight 77, and later scattered by Jensen into the Pacific Ocean near Monterey. This is where the couple frequently taught classes together as master scuba instructors.

D.C. Teachers, Students Die In Pentagon Crash

mobile.edweek.org... 55-CC2980C3ACA9

Besides Ms. Taylor, the two other Washington teachers who died in the crash were Sarah Clark, a 6th grade teacher at Backus Middle School, and James Debeuneure, who taught 5th grade at Ketcham Elementary School.

The three students from Washington lost in the crash were Bernard Brown, who attended Leckie Elementary; Rodney Dickens, who attended Ketcham Elementary; and Asia Cottom, from Backus Middle School. All three were 11.

Sacred Ground
On 9/11: The ring that survived the inferno

BY ANELIA K. DIMITROVA Sep 13, 2011

www.communitynewspapergroup.com...

When crews eventually cleared the debris, among other personal effects on the site of the tragedy, investigators found a one-carat ring, size 6.8, its band bent, its prongs crooked but still holding firmly in place the solitaire diamond.

Looking at the picture of the ring, in a binder of images of personal effects FBI agents discovered at the crime scene, Peter Batacan, Karen’s husband, could hardly believe his eyes. He took a closer look at the serial number.

It was the same ring he had surprised Karen with on June 27, 1995, when he dropped on one knee under the elm tree in one of their favorite parks in Bethesda, Md., and asked her to marry him.

Snip

Receiving Karen’s ashes and having them placed in her final resting place in the niche in the church, where on the 10th anniversary congregation members will lay flowers, gave Peter some level of comfort as did a memorial service he and Karen’s family attended later in Waverly.

a reply to: neutronflux

That is hearsay...
Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?

Looks like Wikipedia is your friend...

You ask everybody on here to backup their narratives and you give me Wikipedia as an answer. lol
There's morons on this site, it's not even funny.

Btw, you still haven't answered the questions I asked you on other threads so I didn't expect much from you this time around AGAIN.
Repeat to yourself the same thing over and over, you might eventually believe your own BS

a reply to: tulsi

The WTC did not have insurance coverage for terrorism. Silverstein took out the policy for terrorism with a double indemnity clause. The ink was not dry on the contract when the towers fell.

WRONG AS USUAL ……..

Reason Silverstein bought terrorism insurance was simple The people putting up the money made him buy terrorism
insurance

NO INSURANCE NO MONEY

NO INSURANCE NO MONEY

Got that ?????????

You don't think Silberstein put up all the money himself? Its call LEVERAGE You put up a portion, then have investor provide the rest

The investors, principally GMAC Mortgage (now ALLY Bank) put up the bulk of the money

Considering that WTC had been bombed by terrorists in 1993, costing some 510 million to insurers, investors want to protect their investments

Silverstein actually tried UNDERINSURE the buildings , opting to buy 1.5 billion per building Investors wanted 5 billion

Settled on 3.55 billion per building

Silverstein actually lost money on deal, considering had to replace buildings and was still on hook for lease payments for couple smoking holes


In addition Silverstein was not the winning bidder, that was Vornado Real Estate. Vornado could get the financing

Silverstein could and Port Authority awarded him the lease

I specifically posted 2 opposing answer/view quotes on the insurance issue from 2 different sites and u quoted one removing the source making it look like I said it, then replied wrong as usual =O

refer to:

originally posted by: tulsi
Silverstein was Bibi's financial manager for years and Bibi is Mos's and they spoke 'every Sunday' or so, right?



www.quora.com...

Did Larry Silverstein buy terrorism insurance just before ...
Feb 23, 2019 · The answer is “Yes”, but it is neither as simple nor as sinister as the question implies. Silverstein had only become the leaseholder of the World Trade Center Complex less than 2 months prior to 9/11, on July 24th, 2001.

911myths.com/html/wtc_insurance.html

The WTC did not have insurance coverage for terrorism. Silverstein took out the policy for terrorism with a double indemnity clause. The ink was not dry on the contract when the towers fell.

i bolded the one that seems legit; the 2nd one is ambiguous first staying no then yes and is clearly from a myth site obviously.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?

Firemen and police officers recover body of FDNY chaplain Father Mychal Judge

www.members.tripod.com/mike_in_md2000/images/mychal_Judge1.jpg

Father Judge became the first official casualty recovered on 9 11

As aside he is buried in Franciscan cemetery near where I live We were part of the funeral procession , lining the route to the grave with our apparatus (along with numerous other fire departments) rendering him final honors - something you would not understand ……..

a reply to: tulsi

The "Myth" site 911myths is a debunking designed to expose the lies and misinformation put out by conspiracy loons

Had you read further would have discovered this fact …….

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: openedeyesandears

Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?

Firemen and police officers recover body of FDNY chaplain Father Mychal Judge

www.members.tripod.com/mike_in_md2000/images/mychal_Judge1.jpg

Father Judge became the first official casualty recovered on 9 11

As aside he is buried in Franciscan cemetery near where I live We were part of the funeral procession , lining the route to the grave with our apparatus (along with numerous other fire departments) rendering him final honors - something you would not understand ……..

WOW, That is a lot of bodies from that tragic "terrorist attack", get real. And btw, reference to rendering final honors to someone is not something you can criticize me about. For one, you don't know me and two, I care and that is why I want everyone on ATS to know people died on that day and in useless wars after 9/11 for some agenda that you're becoming part of.

a reply to: neutronflux

I will ask again...

Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?

I got an answer from another poster and he could only come up with ONE without showing a picture. I thought many died at the Pentagon that day.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

Do you have any proof of the accounts of 9/11 victims from serving family members are wrong. Or the published facts concerning the accounts of remains from the victims of flight 77.

American Airlines Flight 191 Is the worst airliner accident in USA History. You post “Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?“ if you think flight 191 really occurred.

You rant about bodies in body bags is stupid and meaningless. Do most investigations let reporters film the investigation over days as bodies are identified and recovered in pieces over days? Can you cite where investigations have set a precedence in allowing the media to film the recovery of victims while recover crews recover the dead over days? Or is there a respect for the dead where remains are treated out of respect, and not macabrely paraded around for ghoulish open mouth spectators.

And if the individuals were beyond rescuing, as in being dead with no hope of reviving or in pieces, why would firefighters be distributing them? Vs being extracted by investigators.

Again.

Can you discredit these accounts.

Charles Frank "Chic" Burlingame III (September 12, 1949 – September 11, 2001) was the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77,

Burlingame was buried in the Arlington National Cemetery.


en.m.wikipedia.org...

Always remember: Suzanne Calley of San Martin died when terrorists flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon

gilroydispatch.com...

Two years after that fateful day when Calley, 42, perished Sept. 11 alongside 183 other victims at the Pentagon site, Jensen cremated his wife’s body. Her remains were first pulled by rescue crews from the twisted wreckage of Flight 77, and later scattered by Jensen into the Pacific Ocean near Monterey. This is where the couple frequently taught classes together as master scuba instructors.

D.C. Teachers, Students Die In Pentagon Crash

mobile.edweek.org... 55-CC2980C3ACA9

Besides Ms. Taylor, the two other Washington teachers who died in the crash were Sarah Clark, a 6th grade teacher at Backus Middle School, and James Debeuneure, who taught 5th grade at Ketcham Elementary School.

The three students from Washington lost in the crash were Bernard Brown, who attended Leckie Elementary; Rodney Dickens, who attended Ketcham Elementary; and Asia Cottom, from Backus Middle School. All three were 11.

Sacred Ground
On 9/11: The ring that survived the inferno

BY ANELIA K. DIMITROVA Sep 13, 2011

www.communitynewspapergroup.com...

When crews eventually cleared the debris, among other personal effects on the site of the tragedy, investigators found a one-carat ring, size 6.8, its band bent, its prongs crooked but still holding firmly in place the solitaire diamond.

Looking at the picture of the ring, in a binder of images of personal effects FBI agents discovered at the crime scene, Peter Batacan, Karen’s husband, could hardly believe his eyes. He took a closer look at the serial number.

It was the same ring he had surprised Karen with on June 27, 1995, when he dropped on one knee under the elm tree in one of their favorite parks in Bethesda, Md., and asked her to marry him.

Snip

Receiving Karen’s ashes and having them placed in her final resting place in the niche in the church, where on the 10th anniversary congregation members will lay flowers, gave Peter some level of comfort as did a memorial service he and Karen’s family attended later in Waverly.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

This might be of interest too. It seems since 1991, The Pentagon out of respect of families doesn’t parade around the dead.

Pentagon: Families Want Photo Ban
APRIL 23, 2004 / 1:16 AM / CBS/AP

www.cbsnews.com...#

"This policy of no photos has been in effect since 1991," said John Molino of the Defense Department. "It has been tested over time and it reflects what families tell us that they would like as far as treatment of shipment of remains."
"Quite frankly, we don't want the remains of our service members who have made the ultimate sacrifice to be the subject of any kind of attention that is unwarranted or undignified," said Molino, a deputy undersecretary of defense.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

It’s guarantied you’ll move the goal post anyway, but here we go.

Link to page showing links to trial photo evidence of United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

This links right to a photo of a body. Viewer discretion advised.
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

a reply to: openedeyesandears

This is of interest too

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Handling Human Remains following the Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon: Experiences of 10 Uniformed Health Care Workers

Guarantor: MAJ Richard T. Keller, AN USA
Contributors: MAJ Richard Keller


The Group and Its Tasks
The group was composed predominately of an admixture of senior staff and resident level physicians. Several medical dis- ciplines were represented, including oncology, psychiatry, sur- gery, and internalmedicine. Only onephysician reported having past bodyhandling experience. Theremainder ofthe groupwas composed of one registered nurse and one military licensed practical nurse (91 C series), neither ofwhom had previous body handling experience. Each person was assigned to an on-site mortuary outfit tasked primarily with removal of corpses after pronouncement. Pronouncements occurred insidethe Pentagon structure before transport ofthe human remainsto the morgue for further processing. Entry into the workspaces inside the Pentagonstructurerequiredthedonningofprotectivegearcon- sisting of a gas mask, hooded jump suit, rubber boots, and gloves. Beyond this, there were no specific instructions left for team members concerning specific bodyhandling or pronounce- ment procedures. Team members were expected to examine the contents of bags that contained the human remains and assist in loading the bags onto transport vehicles. Members were re- quiredto pass througha decontamination stationbefore remov- ing the biological protective gear.

Snip

Summary
We have described the experiences of several uniformed health care workers, mostly physicians, who were involved in the handling of human remains at the Pentagon disaster site during the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist at- tack. Even though our purpose was to describe rather than to investigateoranalyze,somesalientpointswereillustrated.De- spite an almost universal lack of training or experience in han- dling human remains, the health care workers as a whole dis- played remarkable variability in emotional reactions and coping strategies before, during, and after exposure to the remains, reflecting our continued belief that idiosyncratic vulnerabilities to psychological stresses and stylesofcoping withand adjusting to such stress existirrespective ofprofession, Several individu- als noted the lack of information about what they would be facing during their tasking or other efforts to minimize surprise and shock as adding to their subjective level of stress prior to entering the Pentagon work site. Some group members experi- encedaddedemotionaleffectsafterenteringtheworksiteforthe first time. During the actual handling of human remains, ele- ments ofthe well-characterized sensoryoverload effect involving
grotesque visual, tactile, and olfactory stimuli were apparent. Psychologicalsequelaethatpersistedlongafterthelastexpo-sure to human remains seemed to be transient and without significant impact upon functioning. Even though our group displayed psychological vulnerabilities, several members were ableto use a strongidentification withtheir profession to recast the experience of body handling as similar to consistent with their everyday practices or similar to past experiences during their training. On a related theme, many were also able to divorce themselves from their emotional reactions to effectively assume the "surgeon" or "doctor" mode. Asa whole, group mem- bers seemed to demonstrate adaptive coping, as virtually all group members ultimately described feeling as thoughtheyhad contributed toward completion ofan importantmission. As it is well beyond the scope ofthis briefarticle, it is leftto the reader to speculate about the putative role of special preventive inter- vention programs and the use of co-worker support or other interventions for rescue workers-particularly the inexperi- enced-involved in the handling ofhuman remains.

a reply to: neutronflux

Of every answer you give (if you answer at all) it's always with another question and a wall of text and another one and another one of the SAME PICTURES AND STATEMENTS and pretend you have the answers to everything as if you were there that day. Just like the government did after 9/11, repeat a lie often enough people will believe you... BS

You're some smart fella or you are full of it. My best guess is that you're full of it.
Btw it is not uncommon to see on the news, body bags being hauled out of crime scene so give me a break.
A close up or far away shot of MULTIPLE body bags would have been noticed and on video.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

You

body bags being hauled out of crime scene so give me a break.

You original statement.

Where do you see firemen pulling bodies out (in body bags)?

Your original statement is based on ignorance.

The group was composed predominately of an admixture of senior staff and resident level physicians.

Snip

Each person was assigned to an on-site mortuary outfit tasked primarily with removal of corpses after pronouncement. Pronouncements occurred insidethe Pentagon structure before transport ofthe human remainsto the morgue for further processing. Entry into the workspaces inside the Pentagon structure required
the donning of protective gear consisting of a gas mask, hooded jump suit, rubber boots, and gloves.

From following the Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon: Experiences of 10 Uniformed Health Care Workers

So. Firefighters were not even the ones removing remains. So there wouldn’t be any pictures of firefighters with body bags.

Next, condition of the victims.

All were severely burnt. Smaller pieces in- cluded grossly unrecognizable fragments, bones, intact pectoral and pelvic girdles, and entire torsos without heads or intact lower extremities. In most cases described by group members, corpses lacked heads, and skulls were rarely found. One intact set of remains showed a disturbing image of a woman trying to protectherselfas though"frozen in time," hands in frontofher face, with several pieces of clothing and patches of hair still intact. Several group members made specific reference to this corpse as being especially bothersome, while un-intact body parts were far less so.

From: Handling Human Remains following the Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon: Experiences of 10 Uniformed Health Care Workers

Horrible. Not many what you call body bags were needed. Partial remains and body parts would be placed in smaller evidence bags, not “body bags”.

You

A close up or far away shot of MULTIPLE body bags would have been noticed and on video.

Why would there be such a video? When would that have ever occurred? Did you miss from my cited source, “Each person was assigned to an on-site mortuary outfit tasked primarily with removal of corpses after pronouncement. Pronouncements occurred insidethe Pentagon structure before transport of the human remainsto the morgue for further processing.”

A vast majority of bodies were not pulled out all at one time on 9/11. The removing of remains that were mostly partial remains occurred over time after 9/11. So I am not sure how there would be video of “MULTIPLE body bags” especially when persons were tasked to “transport of the human remainsto the morgue for further processing.” After “
Pronouncements occurred insidethe Pentagon structure”.

Anyway. I posted a link photo to a human remain. Evidence provided at trail. With this prediction.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: openedeyesandears

It’s guarantied you’ll move the goal post anyway, but here we go.

Link to page showing links to trial photo evidence of United States v. Zacarias Moussaoui
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

This links right to a photo of a body. Viewer discretion advised.
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

And as expected..
You

Of every answer you give (if you answer at all) it's always with another question and a wall of text and another one and another one of the SAME PICTURES AND STATEMENTS and pretend you have the answers to everything as if you were there that day. Just like the government did after 9/11, repeat a lie often enough people will believe you... BS

You replied as predicted.

Now, do you have any evidence the photo of a pentagon body was not authentic?
www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200048.html
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

Or do you have any proof to discredit the body removal process from the below study, any evidence the outline of body removal is false, or the detailing of human remains was false?
Handling Human Remains following the Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon: Experiences of 10 Uniformed Health Care Workers

Can you discredit the handling of remains at the morgue, issuing death certificates?

Do you have any evidence to discredit the accounts of human remains and family accounts of those who died on flight 77?

Charles Frank "Chic" Burlingame III (September 12, 1949 – September 11, 2001) was the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77,
Burlingame was buried in the Arlington National Cemetery.
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Always remember: Suzanne Calley of San Martin died when terrorists flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon
gilroydispatch.com...
Two years after that fateful day when Calley, 42, perished Sept. 11 alongside 183 other victims at the Pentagon site, Jensen cremated his wife’s body. Her remains were first pulled by rescue crews from the twisted wreckage of Flight 77, and later scattered by Jensen into the Pacific Ocean near Monterey.

D.C. Teachers, Students Die In Pentagon Crash
mobile.edweek.org... 55-CC2980C3ACA9
Besides Ms. Taylor, the two other Washington teachers who died in the crash were Sarah Clark, a 6th grade teacher at Backus Middle School, and James Debeuneure, who taught 5th grade at Ketcham Elementary School.
The three students from Washington lost in the crash were Bernard Brown, who attended Leckie Elementary; Rodney Dickens, who attended Ketcham Elementary; and Asia Cottom, from Backus Middle School. All three were 11.

Sacred Ground
On 9/11: The ring that survived the inferno

BY ANELIA K. DIMITROVA Sep 13, 2011

www.communitynewspapergroup.com...

When crews eventually cleared the debris, among other personal effects on the site of the tragedy, investigators found a one-carat ring, size 6.8, its band bent, its prongs crooked but still holding firmly in place the solitaire diamond.

Looking at the picture of the ring, in a binder of images of personal effects FBI agents discovered at the crime scene, Peter Batacan, Karen’s husband, could hardly believe his eyes. He took a closer look at the serial number.

It was the same ring he had surprised Karen with on June 27, 1995, when he dropped on one knee under the elm tree in one of their favorite parks in Bethesda, Md., and asked her to marry him.

Snip

Receiving Karen’s ashes and having them placed in her final resting place in the niche in the church, where on the 10th anniversary congregation members will lay flowers, gave Peter some level of comfort as did a memorial service he and Karen’s family attended later in Waverly.

a reply to: openedeyesandears

Are you some kind of ghoul who gets a sick thrill out of viewing dead bodies ??

Here knock yourself out ……….

i1.wp.com...

i.pinimg.com...

law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/moussaoui/45P.jpg

cryptome.org...

Do to the violence of the collapse many bodies were pulverized or cremated in the fires after

Many families could not receive any remains for burial - almost 20 years later still waiting for some trace of their
family member

Day after 9/11 our ambulance responded for standby at WTC - was told saw a severed foot of woman, still in shoe in the rubble at the scene

Yeap, just like the towers and planes... everything was destroyed to minute particles. Such a tragedy and yet SO convenient.

firerescue says: " Many families could not receive any remains for burial - almost 20 years later still waiting for some trace of their family member."

Maybe they never ended up in the Pentagon to start with? You don't need people in a drone...
And perhaps we just might get an answer to it all after a much needed war that Cheney and his scumbags wanted all along.

Remember these 2 questions and if you have half a brain, you will understand.

"Does the order still stand?" Answer: " Did you hear anything to the contrary? "

originally posted by: openedeyesandears
Yeap, just like the towers and planes... everything was destroyed to minute particles. Such a tragedy and yet SO convenient.

firerescue says: " Many families could not receive any remains for burial - almost 20 years later still waiting for some trace of their family member."

Maybe they never ended up in the Pentagon to start with? You don't need people in a drone...
And perhaps we just might get an answer to it all after a much needed war that Cheney and his scumbags wanted all along.

Remember these 2 questions and if you have half a brain, you will understand.

"Does the order still stand?" Answer: " Did you hear anything to the contrary? "

You got time to rant, but not answer questions directed at you?

While your statement of “A close up or far away shot of MULTIPLE body bags would have been noticed and on video.” Is totally based on ignorance of how human remains recovery was conducted, and the horrific reality many of the recovered remains fit in evidence bags vs body bags.

What day would there ever have been rows of body bags from whole bodies being recovered at the same time. And show where it is common practice to publish such pictures?

Again..

Now, do you have any evidence the photo of a pentagon body was not authentic?
www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200048.html
www.vaed.uscourts.gov...

Or do you have any proof to discredit the body removal process from the below study, any evidence the outline of body removal is false, or the detailing of human remains was false?
Handling Human Remains following the Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon: Experiences of 10 Uniformed Health Care Workers

Can you discredit the handling of remains at the morgue, issuing death certificates?

Do you have any evidence to discredit the accounts of human remains and family accounts of those who died on flight 77?

Charles Frank "Chic" Burlingame III (September 12, 1949 – September 11, 2001) was the pilot of American Airlines Flight 77,
Burlingame was buried in the Arlington National Cemetery.
en.m.wikipedia.org...

Always remember: Suzanne Calley of San Martin died when terrorists flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon
gilroydispatch.com...
Two years after that fateful day when Calley, 42, perished Sept. 11 alongside 183 other victims at the Pentagon site, Jensen cremated his wife’s body. Her remains were first pulled by rescue crews from the twisted wreckage of Flight 77, and later scattered by Jensen into the Pacific Ocean near Monterey.

D.C. Teachers, Students Die In Pentagon Crash
mobile.edweek.org... 55-CC2980C3ACA9
Besides Ms. Taylor, the two other Washington teachers who died in the crash were Sarah Clark, a 6th grade teacher at Backus Middle School, and James Debeuneure, who taught 5th grade at Ketcham Elementary School.
The three students from Washington lost in the crash were Bernard Brown, who attended Leckie Elementary; Rodney Dickens, who attended Ketcham Elementary; and Asia Cottom, from Backus Middle School. All three were 11.

Sacred Ground
On 9/11: The ring that survived the inferno

BY ANELIA K. DIMITROVA Sep 13, 2011

www.communitynewspapergroup.com...

When crews eventually cleared the debris, among other personal effects on the site of the tragedy, investigators found a one-carat ring, size 6.8, its band bent, its prongs crooked but still holding firmly in place the solitaire diamond.

Looking at the picture of the ring, in a binder of images of personal effects FBI agents discovered at the crime scene, Peter Batacan, Karen’s husband, could hardly believe his eyes. He took a closer look at the serial number.

It was the same ring he had surprised Karen with on June 27, 1995, when he dropped on one knee under the elm tree in one of their favorite parks in Bethesda, Md., and asked her to marry him.

Snip

Receiving Karen’s ashes and having them placed in her final resting place in the niche in the church, where on the 10th anniversary congregation members will lay flowers, gave Peter some level of comfort as did a memorial service he and Karen’s family attended later in Waverly.

a reply to: neutronflux

I pulled the old neutronflux's trick.

you never answered mine (quite a few) and always go on with misleading quotes/statements and NEVER commented on any video supported to you by me or others.

How does it feel?