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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
Do you go and stay at their residences and are there young girls around if you do. Also when there are many guests socialising it is very difficult for peoples likes. dislikes, tastes, habits, things they say and how they comment, the way they look etc to be kept a secret and avoid whispers. So to suggest that Andrew knew nothing is ridiculous and particularly more so after Eppys previous.
originally posted by: Edumakated
I caution people about assuming guilt by association. It is dangerous.
To be clear before any mental midget tries to retort I am defending Epstein, I am not.
I am just saying take a step back and think about how well you may know you "friends." We often use the term loosely. I have some friends that I've known a long time and may see a couple of times a year or fewer. We may grab dinner or socialize. However, the reality is that I don't KNOW them and what they may do in all facets of their life.
Wealthy people who have second and vacation homes often have guests they may socialize with personally and professionally. However, it still does not necessarily mean they know all the personal details and proclivities about a person even if they stay at their home.
With all that said, you have to question the judgment of people who continue to socialize with convicted pedos. At the same time, money and power can tend to cloud people's judgment.
Another example of this is all the celebs and people who continued to socialize and work with R Kelly for YEARS even after it was known he likes 'em young. Does say Jay Z making a record with R Kelly make him also a pedo? Or any of the other dozens of other artists?
originally posted by: FieldMarshalMatt
a reply to: JAGStorm
He's saying this because he knows he's been caught up with because of Sjoberg's testimony against him , which was unsealed this month .
Sjoberg confirms Giuffre's testimony against him in multiple ways , she was younger than Giuffre , was also forced to have sex with Andrew , and the two , Giuffre and Sjoberg were not known to each other at the time . Or at the time when they putin separate complaints .
So obviously with all that corroberating evidence he 's in much deeper trouble . Giuffre and Sjoberg won the case against Maxwell too. Quite possibly the two victims together are able to take him down .
Links to the court documents can be found on this site .
originally posted by: Rick26
Ofcourse that prince abused kids too.
Tell me, why are you visiting the residencies of someone on the other end of the ocean running a gigantic pedophilic-network so much? Why? Ask yourself.
Same goes for Billy Clinton. He has visited them so much it cant be just for a cup of coffee and some small talk. Not to mention Pig Epstein taking children with him when he visited all those high-power people. For what reason could that have been you think?
Its sickening. And nobody sees it or cares about it. Nobody notices how big and all-engrossing this case is. And we let those people rule over us.
originally posted by: Grenade
Doesn't matter if he's innocent or guilty, as far as i'm aware the British Royal Family are immune to prosecution. This is just about protecting their image.
He could literally be caught on camera with a 13 year old and put out a statement saying it was true and still get away with it.
Not only that the mindless drones would still turn up waving their little flags every time this criminal empire have a birthday, wedding, anniversary etc.
However, the reality is there is no way to know what any person does behind closed doors.