Nature VS Chernobyl

After the nuclear disaster in 1986, many experts claimed Chernobyl would become a barren wasteland. The idea of nuclear disasters can give one thoughts of a mad max style world.

However Mother Nature is proving that isn't the case. There are more than 60 types of mammals thriving in the exclusion zone. Wolves specifically have seen their population grow 7 times larger than that of wolves in nearby reserves. Plant life is doing especially well and starting to erase any signs that humans were ever there. Though it is still not fit for human habitation, these pictures show just how far Chernobyl has come without humans in the last 34 years.







You may wonder how wild life can survive but people cant.

Studies have also detected some negative effects of radiation at an individual level. For example, some insects seem to have a shorter lifespan and are more affected by parasites in areas of high radiation. Some birds also have higher levels of albinism, as well as physiological and genetic alterations when living in highly contaminated localities. But these effects don’t seem to affect the maintenance of wildlife population in the area.

First, wildlife could be much more resistant to radiation than previously thought. Another alternative possibility is that some organisms could be starting to show adaptive responses that would allow them to cope with radiation and live inside the exclusion zone without harm. In addition, the absence of humans inside the exclusion zone could be favouring many species – big mammals in particular.

I love how trees just dont give a crap and grow through anything.











I guess the moral of the story is humans are more dangerous than a nuclear disaster

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a reply to: FauxMulder

People greatly miss understand what radiation is or how it works.
I have read articles that state levels are 10k times yadda yadda but dont even bother to put anything into perspective.
Radiation is a dangerous mistress but also a greatly misunderstood one.

Chernobyl is a perfect example.
The design should quantify as a crime against humanity.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: FauxMulder

People greatly miss understand what radiation is or how it works.
I have read articles that state levels are 10k times yadda yadda but dont even bother to put anything into perspective.
Radiation is a dangerous mistress but also a greatly misunderstood one.

Chernobyl is a perfect example.
The design should quantify as a crime against humanity.

How so? Can you explain?

a reply to: FauxMulder

there is a lot of human habitation and activity in both zones - far more in the outer - admittedly - no where neer " pre incident " populations - but still many villages remain ocupied to some degree

a reply to: trollz

Which part?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: trollz

Which part?

What is radiation, how does it work, and how is it misunderstood?

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: trollz

Which part?

What is radiation, how does it work, and how is it misunderstood?

Gotcha.
Mostly that people hear the word radiation and run scared like they saw a zombie.
There are all kinds of radiation like infrared and X-ray for example.
Say radiation and its aaaahhh!
Say infrared and its huh?
You need and X-ray,,,,,ok...
Say I'm going to iradiate you,,,,,aaahhhhh!

People don't know a millisievert from a rem.
Dosage and type matters.

Take Chernobyl.
Everyone thinks people can't be anywhere near the place but the Russians ran the other reactors at the location for years after the accident. The year 2000.

The point is that radiation is the boogeyman and it's unfortunate.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: trollz

Which part?

What is radiation, how does it work, and how is it misunderstood?

Take Chernobyl.
Everyone thinks people can't be anywhere near the place but the Russians ran the other reactors at the location for years after the accident. The year 2000.

I don't think many people believe that way. Of course you can go there. Thousands of tourist go there every year. But you sure as hell wouldn't want to live there. It is dangerous it certain ways.

a reply to: FauxMulder

Very true, the Russians scattered nuclear fuel all over the place so it's not exactly without risk. It's a vastly different situation than fukashima.

My money will always go with mother nature, for the win.
She will outlive all of us.

a reply to: chiefsmom

You are absolutely correct.
The planet and life was here for millions of years before man and will likely be here millions after we are gone.

Check this out. Turns out it all may be a scam. This man claims he swam in the cooling pools and drank the water too, a glass a day to prove it was safe. tptb want people to think otherwise.

a reply to: TheGreatWork

Thats a great video.
If I remember right they made him stop swimming in the cooling pool because he was freaking out some people.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: TheGreatWork

Thats a great video.
If I remember right they made him stop swimming in the cooling pool because he was freaking out some people.

Yes exactly. He talks also of "nuclear waste" being anything but waste and worthless. A lot of it also has to do with it being stolen. People aren't going to steal, or have the logistics to steal, something they think is that dangerous. All kinds of stuff, even to who owns the mines to make the plutonium, etc.

Why do people continue to bring up Chernobyl...and ignore Fukushima? The latter is much worse than the former, and many act as if Fukushima never happened, but it continues to spew death into the Pacific Ocean day after day, year after year.

a reply to: Lazarus Short

What the hell are you talking about?



I think that's where you want to be.

Radiation is basically sub-atomic particles that fly through everything and do damage to your DNA. But it's highly random, so it's unpredictable. Higher amounts of radiation mean higher numbers of those tiny particles flying around and greater chances that one will fly through and do damage.

It's a crap shoot basically. How long until the cells being replaced are replaced with one that has a dangerous genetic glitch that causes cancer? And genetic damage is long-term.



This is what happens when you receive a really high dose all at once. This is the sort of thing that happened to the earlier workers and others who died from the accident to more or less dramatic degree. The particles that hit their cells did enough genetic damage that their bodies simply just weren't able to effectively repair so they fell apart.

When we talk about wildlife, we're talking about things that don't live as long as humans, so sure they're getting the same damage, but the odds of receiving that fatal glitch are lessened simply because they will likely die before it happens to them. After all, the patches of really intense radioactivity are sporadic, and the longer we go out from the disaster, the less intense overall that random radioactivity will be in terms of the particles being emitted.

Take people out of a place and nature flourishes. 'Nuff said.

a reply to: ketsuko

Damn! What a torturous way to go. Those doctors suck. They should have let him die. Almost 3 months of hell.

a reply to: ketsuko

A huge factor is the type of radiation as well.
Some can harm you years later some types are much faster.