The true origins of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory. A Yahoo News investigation.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Well there you go folks.

Nothing more for me to say.

I am so done with this crew. [/quote ]
Bye Felicia but first admit you were wrong because Joe said it would not happen on his watch

edit on 10-7-2019 by CrazyFox because: Tablet typing sux

edit on 10-7-2019 by CrazyFox because: Tablet typing sux

And here it has been shown that the Rich story was a plant by Russian intel, we still have the usual crowd adamantly trying to discredit that, the Mueller investigation (which produced results and wasn't a witch hunt), and the dossier (many parts which have been proven to be true, unlike the Rich conspiracy) at all costs, using the favorite talking points and trigger words by their favorite president.

The dossier was never discredited, no matter much the phrase "discredited dossier" or "fake dossier" is used.

Talk about people duped by fake news, it's the ones using the phrase so loosely that are duped by all the BS.

Barr is a disgrace to the rule of law of the US, using his position to shield Trump from anything potentially negative, lying about the Mueller report, and doing everything he can to protect Trump, when his obligation and loyalty is (or should be) to America, not to one man who breaks laws and gets others to break laws as easily as most people breathe.

Sad, actually. Pathetic.

But I expected no different.

originally posted by: Liquesence

Barr is a disgrace to the rule of law of the US, using his position to shield Trump from anything potentially negative, lying about the Mueller report, and doing everything he can to protect Trump, when his obligation and loyalty is (or should be) to America, not to one man who breaks laws and gets others to break laws as easily as most people breathe.

If you have evidence that anything you wrote here is true, by all means please please get it to Mueller ASAP so he can lock up Trump and his whole sorry-ass crew.
Otherwise, it sounds like you're going on supposition and wishful thinking. Kinda like what you are accusing the right of doing. No, exactly like it.

Sad, actually pathetic.

a reply to: Liquesence

Not only was the dossier discredited

The claim the Russian government had trills post on Facebook has now been as well

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Mueller is a disgrace

a reply to: Liquesence

ROFLMAO... you people can't stop with "Russia, Russia, Russia..." If it were up to you there would be no conspiracy theories unless Russia was blamed for them all...

As for yahoo... the same left-wing media source that also helped the CCP (of China) to suppress their own people, and misused funds which were supposed to have been given to the victims...

Wake Up Call: Yahoo Sued for Helping Chinese Find Dissidents

Yahoo Is Sued Over $17 Million Fund for Chinese Dissidents

Yahoo is one of the many left-wing fake news sources which has been lying for years...

a reply to: Liquesence

Except for the fact that Seth Rich was a diehard supporter of Bernie Sanders, and Rich had access to the DNC servers/files. Before Seth Rich's death there were several sources pointing out the fact that the DNC/Hillary rigged the DNC campaign to help Hillary and to get rid of Sanders and Rich who had access to the DNC would have found the evidence.

Then there is the fact that William Binney, former Technical Director of the NSA, and his group of former intelligence officers (VIPS) looked at the data from the "hack" and found that the hack had been local, and the information was transferred to a thumb drive. Rich would have had access to those files.

Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence

Let's not forget that everyone who was acquainted with whom was the whistleblower, including former British ambassador Craig Murray, stated that the source was not from Russia.

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Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange, told the Dailymail.com he flew to Washington, D.C. for emails
He claims he had a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources
The leakers' motivation was 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the 'tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders'
Murray says: 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks'
'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that,' Murray insists
Murray is a controversial figure who was relieved of his post as British ambassador amid allegations of misconduct but is close to Wikileaks
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EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails - they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

BTW, in case you didn't know he was shot in the back twice. If it was a robbery why would the robber shoot him if the "robber" was not going to take anything from Rich?

Robberies occur with the victim normally looking at the perpetrator as the perpetrator makes the demands. If Rich had been assaulted for robbery, what in the world made him run away when he knew the assailant had a gun?

It doesn't make any sense. Unless Rich was murdered for other reasons.

Of note, a group of George Washington University graduate students made a profile about Seth's murder, and here is some of the information they found.

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EVALUATION OF THE CRIME SCENE
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There may be one (1) photo of the crime scene in which Seth is still located in the street, however PP has been unable to verify the authenticity of this photo. It has been reported (cite) that no bullet casings were found. The crime scene was very organized to the point of being sanitized. This would indicate careful planning on the part of the offender, control of the entry to and exit from the crime scene as well as in-depth understanding of law-enforcement investigative processes.
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Contrary to the conspiracy theorists, Rich was not a disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporter; he never expressed a preference for the Vermont senator in the primary battle with Clinton, according to Pablo Manriquez, a friend and colleague from the DNC, echoing comments made by other friends of his in Washington.

His reddit handle was pandas4bernie. There is an overload of evidence quickly available with proof of Seth's support for Bernie.

It was an idea first floated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who on Aug. 9, 2016, announced a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s murder, saying — somewhat cryptically — that “our sources take risks.”

Why would Assange do this if there was still a good chance the murderer(s) would get caught? If Seth's murder was solved, Assange's conspiracy theory and credibility would be ruined if it was proven to be robbery gone wrong.

IRA-created fake accounts, masquerading as those of American citizens or political groups, tweeted and retweeted more than 2,000 times about Rich, helping to keep the bogus claims about his death in the social media bloodstream, according to an analysis of a database of Russia troll accounts by Yahoo News.

Come on Yahoo, just one time please post some of these Russian fake accounts and posts. Educate us on what a Russian troll looks like or else we will keep falling for them and it's your fault for keeping people ignorant.

In her efforts to better understand where the conspiracy theories were coming from, Sines used her security clearance to access copies of two SVR intelligence reports about Seth Rich that had been intercepted by U.S. intelligence officials. She later wrote a memo documenting the Russian role in fomenting the conspiracy theories that she sent to the Justice Department’s national security division, and personally briefed special counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecutors on her findings.

“It appeared to me that it was a very clear campaign to deflect an ongoing federal criminal investigation,” Sines said. “So then you have to look at why is Russia doing this? … It’s not rocket science before you add it up and you go, ‘Oh, if Seth is the leaker to WikiLeaks — it doesn’t have anything to do with the Russians. So of course Russia’s interest in doing this is incredibly transparent.” The Russian strategy, Sines said, was diabolically simple: “Let’s blame it on Seth Rich. He’s a very convenient target.”

Sines investigated the Rich story and reported to Mueller's team. She was the one evaluating the information. I would ask Mueller if he saw Sines' underlying information or just read her biased conclusions. Too bad we'll never see the intercepted reports or her memo ourselves.

Russia doesn't need cover for what they do. A computer hack and data dump would be bragging rights for them.

How come Donna Brazille was at the hospital before rich got there by ambulance? How come she was afraid for her life after the murder?

Of course the DNC could have let the FBI look at the server like they had asked to do, but the FBI settled for a CrowdStrike evaluation passed to them by the DNC.

Russia has real dirt on HRC, they don't need to steal emails about comrade Bernie - that was a crime of opportunity - like copies HRC's emails being available online underacted - posted by amateurs for fun. Blackmail loses all of it's power if you use it, these arent children doing cyber warfare getting named by yahoos. Putin thinks HRC is a bitch but he knows how to handle her, Russia only wants to find opportunity in chaos. If they wanted him to win it's only to fight the globalists that threaten Russia too.

originally posted by: circuitsports
Russia has real dirt on HRC, they don't need to steal emails about comrade Bernie - that was a crime of opportunity - like copies HRC's emails being available online underacted - posted by amateurs for fun. Blackmail loses all of it's power if you use it, these arent children doing cyber warfare getting named by yahoos. Putin thinks HRC is a bitch but he knows how to handle her - he might be all smiles with Trump but only because he doesnt think he wants to attack russia.

Wait till we find out who "The Dossier" was really about 😎

During my 2013 trip to KZ all I heard about was how crooked HRC was and the deals she was doing there.

originally posted by: circuitsports
During my 2013 trip to KZ all I heard about was how crooked HRC was and the deals she was doing there.

What were the 5 top things you heard about HRC ?

😎

Again I will ask, am I really expected to believe that conspiracy forums across the internet are naturally full of Clinton supporters that just want us to believe the mainstream media? You guys ever see that Mena documentary or hear about Waco? Why are you guys here? What conspiracy theories are you guys into? Im not even a conservative or a Trump supporter, ive just been a conspiracy theorist for a long time and this seems very weird to me. Conspiracy theorists are supposed to be crazy out of the box thinkers who question everything, not robots spouting talking points from the party line.

So, it's just a "coincidence" that
SETH CONRAD RICH = HARDCORE SNITCH......?

Either his name is fake, or the universe (God) leaves his signature everywhere, and you are a dumbass for still believing in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory.

I even made a Tik Tok about this:
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"Yahoo News Investigation"

Well.. theres your problem!

Literally everything these folks publish should be taken with several tons of salt. That goes for many "officially official" channels too, like certain dossiers..

These folks have always dealt in blackmail and deception. Believing what they say because it makes us feel validated in our beliefs is literally a path to destruction.

Its so bizarre to so many of us, honestly. Its like.. the more openly and blatantly these people (media, DNC, etc) lie and deceive, the more fervently people believe in it.

I swear, its like its propagandaphilia or something.

Anything YouGooy..(yahoo) says or does is to destroy the Trump Persdentisy NOTHING YouGooy does or says is in America best interests as they want Socialism or better yet Communism to be America govt

My question is why did a chocolate drink maker decide to get into investigative news?

Trolls will be trolls.

This is exactly the MO, and it's here and it's real, and exactly what foreign operatives have done and are doing.

Attack and attempt to discredit anything to further the agenda.

a reply to: Liquesence

Sour Grapes stain the drapes 😎