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posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

and apparently sometime back we found oil deposits in the gulf / Texas that are larger than the ones in Saudi Arabia.




posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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So, the leftist view is that Trumps only reason for being concerned abut Venezuela is because they have lots of overpriced, thick sour crude that costs a fortune to fractionate.

What about Putin? Why is he giving a rip about Venezuela, and intervening when most of south america supports trump's efforts in this particular situation.

Orange man is always the bad guy. Even if people in countries we ignore support his stance on Venezuela.

Putin, on the other hand is an evil genius. He's flying troops into Venezuela to make sure and keep the current dictator in power, and the Venezuelan oil-fields off-line.

now why on earth would the second biggest producer of petroleum do that?????



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Mach2

We have the worst domestic programs, with the worst outcomes in the developed world. Here, in the richest nation on earth.


I'm not sure I would agree, but one thing I am positive of, is that our government is the most inefficient, and wasteful entity on the planet.

I believe that is the biggest complaint among the average, middle class tax paying citizen, thus the arguement against more social programs, and there doesn't appear to be any way to correct the problem.

I'm not against helping ppl, or evening out the discrepancies, but when your government asks for more, while wasting what you already give them, is it any surprise that we laugh in their face?


The solution is not to limit govt. Government is the only thing protecting us from corporate tyranny. We need to take control of the govt and make it work for us. That’s a whole other convo that we can get into some other time.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Graysen
So, the leftist view is that Trumps only reason for being concerned abut Venezuela is because they have lots of overpriced, thick sour crude that costs a fortune to fractionate.

What about Putin? Why is he giving a rip about Venezuela, and intervening when most of south america supports trump's efforts in this particular situation.

Orange man is always the bad guy. Even if people in countries we ignore support his stance on Venezuela.

Putin, on the other hand is an evil genius. He's flying troops into Venezuela to make sure and keep the current dictator in power, and the Venezuelan oil-fields off-line.

now why on earth would the second biggest producer of petroleum do that?????

Says someone with no apparent understanding or awareness of history it seems.

This is not about trump. Venezuela didn’t just become a thing. We have been trying to overthrow them for years. And it’s multiple reasons. Firstly it’s because they nationalized their oil and used the profits for their people. Secondly it’s because they claim to be socialist. Thirdly it’s because they have oil. Any nation doing 2 of those three things can expect to be invaded or have a coup fomented for them by the us. Venezuela did all three. We fomented a coup in 03, I believe. The people reacted so strongly they actually reversed it and put Chavez back in power.

I really doubt this is about trump, in fact I doubt he’d even heard of Venezuela until some deep state member of his cabinet probably mentioned it. Trump never comes up with any original thoughts or ideas. I’ve been following Venezuela for years, I don’t put this on orange man.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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what about Putin? what about Russia's role (troops in country) in Venezuela???

Russia has active troops on the ground there; not us.

Is it not about oil for them?
edit on 11-4-2019 by Graysen because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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Russia is, again, not the ones who started the coup. So here’s the deal. The us and the deep govt are in a war to enforce continued global hegemony and to keep their empire from falling to pieces. We systematically pushed to overthrow any allies of Russia in order to render them impotent on the world stage. We went after Iran, Libya, Syria. Russia finally stepped in with Syria, and has finally realized that the us only understands force.

Now to South America. Go back a decade and you had Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil for the first times with left leaning, indigenous rulers pushing social reform, and working towards a South American Union, who’s goal was to oust the western bankers like the imf and world bank, and us corporations from the South American nations they had used as sweat shops and banana republics for so long. They made overtures to Russia and China during this time and started trade and treaties with them. The Chinese and Russians made pretty considerable investments there.

Now, over the last two years the us has managed to assist in a complete reversal, ousting many of those leaders and installing fascists like bolsonaro, or us puppets open to selling their people out for profit. Except in Venezuela.

Once Venezuela folds the southern continent will be doomed to several more generations of us exploitation and chaos ala Africa and the Middle East. The curse of any place that has assets that the us may covet.

So yes, Russia has an interest in keeping South America from total American subjugation, and in keeping one of its allies free from us flavored economic peonage. And also to demonstrate to the world, once again, that Russia will help its allies when the us tries to attack them.

Is oil part of their factoring? Sure. Because after the us stole all of Venezuela’s money Russia made agreements with Venezuela to begin investing in a pathway to refine and sell their oil in places other than the us. China did too. But that’s a small part of the complete picture. Hope that helps.



posted on Apr, 12 2019 @ 06:02 AM
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but that has nothing to do with common sense security measures, that insure my standard of living.


Yep American Exceptionalism never mind the body count in acquiring those resources.



As far as "taking care of our own", you exaggerate the situation. I have no compassion for lazy individuals, and we spend plenty on domestic programs to give those who are deserving a helping hand.


Are they all lazy? We're talking about the high cost of health care in the US not unemployment.

Hey but why should I be the one to open your eyes. But I suspect you're too selfish to even see what the other 90% of the world thinks of that self entitled attitude.



posted on Apr, 12 2019 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421


So yes, Russia has an interest in keeping South America from total American subjugation, and in keeping one of its allies free from us flavored economic peonage. And also to demonstrate to the world, once again, that Russia will help its allies when the us tries to attack them.

Is oil part of their factoring? Sure. Because after the us stole all of Venezuela’s money Russia made agreements with Venezuela to begin investing in a pathway to refine and sell their oil in places other than the us. China did too. But that’s a small part of the complete picture. Hope that helps.


I didn't need any help seeing that you're a pro-marxist apologist for Chavez/Maduro. And that you idolize Putin as a Benign defender of Venezuela. Probably just like his benign defense of South Ossetia, Crimea, and other oil-bearing hot-spots around the globe. He and his country aren't even communists any more, but they can still do no wrong in your eyes.

Most of Latin America (and big parts of Europe) has already recognized the opposition leader in Venezuela as the rightful leader. They have been threatened militarily by Venezuela repeatedly over the last three decades. I noticed how you avoid all mention of Chavez' aborted plan to invade Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao. But hey, if they aren't marxist themselves, they must be lap-dogs for the Great Satan America.

The truth is, Putin wants to keep Venezuela from producing and exporting oil. Keeping them out of the market increases the price that the EU pays to Gazprom, the Russian government oil producer. Putin is working hard to keep anyone from turning on the faucet in Venezuela. But hey, as long as it's not America.



posted on Apr, 12 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Graysen

originally posted by: pexx421


So yes, Russia has an interest in keeping South America from total American subjugation, and in keeping one of its allies free from us flavored economic peonage. And also to demonstrate to the world, once again, that Russia will help its allies when the us tries to attack them.

Is oil part of their factoring? Sure. Because after the us stole all of Venezuela’s money Russia made agreements with Venezuela to begin investing in a pathway to refine and sell their oil in places other than the us. China did too. But that’s a small part of the complete picture. Hope that helps.


I didn't need any help seeing that you're a pro-marxist apologist for Chavez/Maduro. And that you idolize Putin as a Benign defender of Venezuela. Probably just like his benign defense of South Ossetia, Crimea, and other oil-bearing hot-spots around the globe. He and his country aren't even communists any more, but they can still do no wrong in your eyes.

Most of Latin America (and big parts of Europe) has already recognized the opposition leader in Venezuela as the rightful leader. They have been threatened militarily by Venezuela repeatedly over the last three decades. I noticed how you avoid all mention of Chavez' aborted plan to invade Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao. But hey, if they aren't marxist themselves, they must be lap-dogs for the Great Satan America.

The truth is, Putin wants to keep Venezuela from producing and exporting oil. Keeping them out of the market increases the price that the EU pays to Gazprom, the Russian government oil producer. Putin is working hard to keep anyone from turning on the faucet in Venezuela. But hey, as long as it's not America.


I don’t have to apologize for Chavez, the country did fine under him. And who started the coups and instigating in Georgia, Ukraine, etc? You’re an apologist for American imperialism.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Graysen

Russia is itself a top global producer of oil. I find the contents of your post a little suspect.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: AnakinWayneII

That's precisely my point. They are another (the other) global power, competing for oil. If it's mercenary when America does it, it must be just as mercenary when Russia pursues that path.

Interestingly, Russia seems to be on the wrong side of this equation, propping up a corrupt dictator in the face of popular anger. The main difference is, Russia has only committed a handful of troops, so they are in the "military advisor" phase.

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