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originally posted by: Gothmog
Yes , I do find it hilarious when folks use "old sayings" yet do not know the "history" "behind" them.
What's the origin of the phrase 'Stick in the mud'?
The figurative phrase 'stick in the mud' derives from the imagery of someone whose feet are stuck in wet clay and is unable to progress. It was preceded in the language by earlier versions, for example 'stick in the briers, clay, mire' etc. These were usually applied to people who remained in a difficult situation, either by choice or because they were stuck.
Thomas Cooper's Thesaurus, 1565, included an example:
They beyng accused of extortion and pillage were in muche trouble, or stacke in the bryars. Family-friendly Source
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: shooterbrody
It was referring to charlottesville. I am on my cell an it has a tendency of changes the words I write into gibberish so it won't let me spell out what kind of torches they were. But overall that post was just my overly dry sarcastic humor rising up.
According to its authorizing document which was signed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on May 17, 2017, the investigation's scope included the allegation that there were links or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian government as well as "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation". The scope of the investigation also included potential obstruction of justice by Trump and others.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: shooterbrody
Did they find Russian meddling in the election? Yes
Are you saying it shouldn't have been investigated? That they should have ignored the hacking of the dem computers and mass dumping of the info online even though there are probably people still trying to repair their credit after all their info was dumped. That we didn't need to to know the extent of it or the technicalities of how it was pulled off so we might prevent it from happening again?
Was there trump associate's who had questionable backgrounds or questionable behavior? Again yes
And for some, the intelligence agencies were well aware of the questionable cheap long before trump was a candidate. To have so many shady characters flocking to trump should have been reason enough to look into what was going on. I mean what if this panned out the other way and led to a disaster that could have been avoided? We would all be screaming for blood because they didn't look into it.
originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: Boadicea
I would respectfully suggest that you, nor anyone else, aside from top DOJ officials, know what the scope was.
Order No. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS
By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C. [Sections] 509, 510 and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as follows:
(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. [Section] 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is [B][U]authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. (d) Sections 600.4 through 600.10 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.
I've never seen any documentation, just speculation.
Not only that, Rosenstien redefined the scope midway through.
The May 17, 2017 order was worded categorically in order to permit its public release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals. This memorandum provides a more specific description of your authority. The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment, and are within the scope of the Order: [redacted]
You therefore have authority to continue and complete the investigation of those matters, and additional matters described in 28 C.F.R. [Section] 600.4(a)
The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.
...the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey...