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why is Trump investigated and not obama?

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posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Aallanon

Exactly what is the "Obama crime" you are alleging? What Wright claimed was that a friend of Obama, via an intermediary (a member of Wright's congregation) offered him $150k to not do any public speaking until after the election.

Assuming that the person who approached Wright was on the level, there's no proof that Obama or anyone in his campaign knew anything about it. More importantly, no money was ever exchanged so there's no possibility of a violation.


If Rev. Wright said it, should it be investigated? perhaps by a special council?




posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Aslo isn't it election tampering either way?

Muh Russia



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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Obama was/is another untouchable Globalist.

I personally do not think Trump is on board with those demons and their crooked agendas.

That might be one big reason in a nutshell.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: network dude

And lets see what he says when confronted with an out of control Prosecutor with unlimited funds threatening Jail Time and family members
edit on 12-12-2018 by Aallanon because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: Slanter
... what? You mean the time that one of Obama's friends offered to pay reverend Wright $150,000 to shut up? You know why nothing ever came of that? Because it didn't happen. He didn't receive any money. Obama asked him, personally, to stop saying stupid things until after the presidency and he did.

All this information is in the link you posted, but it's all presented in a way to make it seem nefarious.

This is the equivalency? "Well, A friend of Obama's once offered money to shut up Obama's pastor from saying stupid things, but no money was actually exchanged, So obviously it should be fine for a candidate to pay off porn stars to shut up about multiple affairs before an election."


A non-disclosure agreement is a legal contract. Offering hush money isn't.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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Because they are fostering a victim complex. Trump would have nothing to paint him as an outsider if it weren't for the media and Democrats constantly and blatantly attacking him. Everything else about Trump screams establishment and puppet.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Because they are fostering a victim complex. Trump would have nothing to paint him as an outsider if it weren't for the media and Democrats constantly and blatantly attacking him. Everything else about Trump screams establishment and puppet.


As i have said before

The election of trump and treatment of Bernie have forced the establishment to put themselves unlike ever before

A shame so many want to criticize those of us that call out the examples of corruption in real time



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: Slanter
... what? You mean the time that one of Obama's friends offered to pay reverend Wright $150,000 to shut up? You know why nothing ever came of that? Because it didn't happen. He didn't receive any money. Obama asked him, personally, to stop saying stupid things until after the presidency and he did.

All this information is in the link you posted, but it's all presented in a way to make it seem nefarious.

This is the equivalency? "Well, A friend of Obama's once offered money to shut up Obama's pastor from saying stupid things, but no money was actually exchanged, So obviously it should be fine for a candidate to pay off porn stars to shut up about multiple affairs before an election."


A non-disclosure agreement is a legal contract. Offering hush money isn't.


Then Obama's friend should be penalized for offering hush money, because as has been said in previous posts, Obama had nothing to do with it. Or, his friends are better liars than Trump's friends (because all of politics is corrupt).

Yes, an NDA is a legal document. But, the money offered with the NDA can't come from campaign financing, which is one of the allegations brought against Trump & co.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:55 PM
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Say it with me.,.." Orange Man Bad "

That's all they know and that's all they WANT to know.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Orange man bad

Black man (well 1/2 black anyway) God



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

"Also, the Obama campaign was fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for collecting millions of dollars in contributions illegally. It was the largest fine ever levelled against a campaign. Nobody ever pursued charges against him."

He was fined for failing to report the identities of donors during the last weeks of the campaign, a period of time when reporting requirements are far more stringent. This is a "Technical" campaign finance violation. The federal election commission determined that it was a failing of the administration levels of his Campaign, there was no evidence that Obama had knowledge of these violations.

With Trump we aren't talking about a filing error. If it was a filing error he would have just filed a correction with the Federal Election Commission, just like Obama did, but instead he kept denying it. The complicated route of payment through Cohen, the national enquirer, shell companies, and other intermediaries in this case paint this is considerably more complicated than "A personal transaction."

Hell, I don't actually know how illegal this actually is, I just know I don't like that sort of behavior from the office of the president and I certainly don't like false-equivalence paraded around like it's evidence of a double-standard.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: Slanter
... what? You mean the time that one of Obama's friends offered to pay reverend Wright $150,000 to shut up? You know why nothing ever came of that? Because it didn't happen. He didn't receive any money. Obama asked him, personally, to stop saying stupid things until after the presidency and he did.

All this information is in the link you posted, but it's all presented in a way to make it seem nefarious.

This is the equivalency? "Well, A friend of Obama's once offered money to shut up Obama's pastor from saying stupid things, but no money was actually exchanged, So obviously it should be fine for a candidate to pay off porn stars to shut up about multiple affairs before an election."


A non-disclosure agreement is a legal contract. Offering hush money isn't.


Then Obama's friend should be penalized for offering hush money, because as has been said in previous posts, Obama had nothing to do with it. Or, his friends are better liars than Trump's friends (because all of politics is corrupt).

Yes, an NDA is a legal document. But, the money offered with the NDA can't come from campaign financing, which is one of the allegations brought against Trump & co.


Trump financed much of his own campaign. The allegations are trumped up.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: Slanter
... what? You mean the time that one of Obama's friends offered to pay reverend Wright $150,000 to shut up? You know why nothing ever came of that? Because it didn't happen. He didn't receive any money. Obama asked him, personally, to stop saying stupid things until after the presidency and he did.

All this information is in the link you posted, but it's all presented in a way to make it seem nefarious.

This is the equivalency? "Well, A friend of Obama's once offered money to shut up Obama's pastor from saying stupid things, but no money was actually exchanged, So obviously it should be fine for a candidate to pay off porn stars to shut up about multiple affairs before an election."


A non-disclosure agreement is a legal contract. Offering hush money isn't.


Then Obama's friend should be penalized for offering hush money, because as has been said in previous posts, Obama had nothing to do with it. Or, his friends are better liars than Trump's friends (because all of politics is corrupt).

Yes, an NDA is a legal document. But, the money offered with the NDA can't come from campaign financing, which is one of the allegations brought against Trump & co.


Trump financed much of his own campaign. The allegations are trumped up.


He didn't finance all of it. Hence the argument. Maybe once money is put into a campaign fund it can't be used for such things? I honestly don't know, but I can see that being some kind of law within campaign finance.

trumped up...that was good.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon

I'm starting to think its one big sh!t show. It's being done to keep the people occupied while they keep destroying this country with debt.




posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon

Obama and his ilk are being investigated. Those are with the OIG and Huber out in Salt Lake City UT. They placed it there to get it out of the DC echo chamber. The difference is Huber / OIG's team arent leaking information like Mueller's team is.

The Clinton Foundation investigation is headed up by the Little Rock Arkansas FBI field office. On Thursday of this week there is an open hearing in the House Government Reform and oversight committee. Scheduled witnesses are all whistle blowers dealing with the Clinton Foundation and the Uranium 1 scandal.

In my personal opinion I dont want Mueller anywhere near the other investigations. I still think Mueller's mandate is to identify and clean up the crimes by admin officials under Obama.

There have already been Clinton Foundation related arrests in Arkansas and S. Missouri (Springfield). The arrests are fraud charges and medicare fraud charges and include several company heads and several Arkansas state politicians. All the crimes in question and people involved is linked into the Clinton Foundation and the arrests were a direct result of the FBI Little Rock investigation.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon


"Welcome to "Whose Lie Is It Anyway?," the show where everything's made up and the rules of law don't matter."


-Small nod to Drew Carey.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:54 PM
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Let's be a bit positive here !



Job creation,
Trump style



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I heard about the investigation into the foundation, but I wasn't aware there had already been arrests related to the Clinton Foundation and am having issues finding any articles about it. The only things I can find were made-up articles about 22 arrests that were completely fabricated earlier this year. Do you have an article or link about these Clinton Foundation Arrests?

I personally think the Clinton foundation has done a lot of good, but corruption is insidious.



posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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All politicians are lairs “no matter where they belongs to”, in any races, colours, sizes and genders. But admittedly Mr. Obama is a “classy liar” compare to this trash “Draft dodger Grump”.





posted on Dec, 12 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Proof doesn't seem to matter anymore







 
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