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How safe are Iphones and what was the truth at San Bernadino?

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posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 09:50 PM
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Came across an article today while reading up on Iphones and security

blog.malwarebytes.com...


Scary - how long until phones become DNA lockable?


In late 2017, word of a new iPhone unlocker device started to circulate: a device called GrayKey, made by a company named Grayshift. Based in Atlanta, Georgia, Grayshift was founded in 2016, and is a privately-held company with fewer than 50 employees. Little was known publicly about this device—or even whether it was a device or a service—until recently, as the GrayKey website is protected by a portal that screens for law enforcement affiliation.


did anyone really believe the FBI couldnt get into the San Bernadino phone?




posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:03 PM
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Phones are not secure. They can be gotten into. Even iphones. Fingerprint and face id havent changed that, DNA locks won't change that. Technology can and will be broken into. It's the way of it. Nothing will ever stop that.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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I don't own an I-phone. My wife has one and she only has it for the camera and a phone. We are old enough to know how to find our way around the city and how to ask instructions and use a map. We know where the streets are in our local towns, we do not need an app to guide us. We can write a grocery list on a paper and pay for groceries with cash. We don't even want phones on when we are driving and we do not want a smart car either. People cannot think properly anymore, they are hooked on computer apps, the apps are steering their lives. What happened to us steering our own way through our lives?



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
I don't own an I-phone. My wife has one and she only has it for the camera and a phone. We are old enough to know how to find our way around the city and how to ask instructions and use a map. We know where the streets are in our local towns, we do not need an app to guide us. We can write a grocery list on a paper and pay for groceries with cash. We don't even want phones on when we are driving and we do not want a smart car either. People cannot think properly anymore, they are hooked on computer apps, the apps are steering their lives. What happened to us steering our own way through our lives?



I am only thirty but I stray away from apps and other things like that. I own a windows phone that has a better camera than most phones on the market. And it is international with duel sim slots so I don’t have to carry a work phone and personal. Sometimes when I run to the grocery store my sister will be at my house watching YouTube or something and she will text me to ask me to pick her up something. I turn my phone on silent and the screen facing away when I drive. I have a Bluetooth system in my car but IDK how to use it. Nor do I even use my backup camera, I don’t trust it lol Apps and realtime GPS has in my opinion has led to lots of people to be afraid to talk to other about a lot of different things. I even know one little cousin will not stop to ask for directions cause she doesn’t like people.


Oh but on topic nothing is safe from hacking EVER and if someone tells you otherwise they are lying.
edit on 2/19/2013 by Allaroundyou because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:23 PM
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This is a brute force attack, most numeric passwords can be cracked In few minutes or few hours. But depending on complexity, it could also takes days, months or years.

iPhone allows alphanumeric password (not just numbers), and if you have larger password with mixed case with symbols etc, it could take ages using this device.

Again, this is a mute point. If your data is synced to iCloud, government can use a warrant to get that data. But in the particular case, the device was not synced with iCloud, so only option is to crack using brute force which they did.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Well as far as personal security info,
they are not safe at all.

But I don't think that they are
all liable to spontaneously ignite
in your pocket.

Then again,
there are those who would like to
enable this possibility.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

The fingerprint, facial recognition and ultimately the DNA locks are great ways for the NSA to gather this important information without a warrant.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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The smart part of the phone is something like...
Slyly
Monitoring
Always
Ready
Technology
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posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 11:32 PM
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just a heads up. you can plug your iphone into a computer and pull your photos and videos out of it very fast without the code. do a little research and you will find that technology is never secure



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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Well all they’ll get from me is a few ugly naked pictures of me and a list of a couple porn sites. Other than that they’re out of luck.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 12:21 AM
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The only way you could potentially have something unhackable is if you were to use a quantum lock of sorts based off of quantum entanglement.

Could be interesting, two entangled particles and only when in close proximity would the container be unlocked.

Would be the only way that you would have something truly secure, at least for a time..



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop


I will say that in my knowledge of phones from the most easily hacked phone to the later goes like this. Android, IPhone, Windows phone and the extremely rare Linux OS phones. But that is just from what I have read. I originally thought Windows phones would be just as easy as say an Android but from everything I read they may be harder than an IPhone.
I tried my hardest to make my phone hard to hack but even then I have managed to gain access after purposely fully locking it using a PC Linux OS. Actually wasn't too hard.
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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

Meh.

Im 45 and dont like people.

I cant use gps in my phone. Too many places i go wont get a signal. I use garmin.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 03:50 AM
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First call these spying devices what they are, spyPhones, then ask yourself again:
How safe can spyPhones be?



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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Don’t do anything on a phone you wouldn’t do in your front yard.




Sent from my iPhone
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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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There is nothing interesting on my iPhone unless you want to check out all the scam calls and fake IRS messages.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse


My phone has everything. I understand the sentiment and some people are way too "into" their phones, but it's a great tool. I don't have to carry a map, a phone, a camera, a watch, a wallet, a photo album, credit cards, phone books, entertainment, radio, tv, exercise trackers. books, etc etc etc. my phone has it all and so much more and it's great. I love just having one device I carry around, and allows me to enjoy my life and not worry about carrying to much and being too cluttered. Granted while I love my iPhone as a great tool, I use it most to travel with and to enjoy the world around me, which I suppose is what you are indicating "most" people do not do.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
a reply to: rickymouse


My phone has everything. I understand the sentiment and some people are way too "into" their phones, but it's a great tool. I don't have to carry a map, a phone, a camera, a watch, a wallet, a photo album, credit cards, phone books, entertainment, radio, tv, exercise trackers. books, etc etc etc. my phone has it all and so much more and it's great. I love just having one device I carry around, and allows me to enjoy my life and not worry about carrying to much and being too cluttered. Granted while I love my iPhone as a great tool, I use it most to travel with and to enjoy the world around me, which I suppose is what you are indicating "most" people do not do.



I guess you are addicted. Have you ever gone out and picked blueberries and blackberries out in the wild without your blackberry? I just did a google highlight search on blackberry, it wasn't the berry that showed up in the first page of the search. I had to go to page three to find any sign of an edible berry.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

nope not addicted at all, as I said, it's a great tool.



of course you aren't completely anti technology, or we wouldn't' be having this conversation



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
a reply to: rickymouse

nope not addicted at all, as I said, it's a great tool.



of course you aren't completely anti technology, or we wouldn't' be having this conversation


I actually like technology. I can research the truth about medical science instead of going to a school and being taught how to administer expensive medicines to treat a condition or disease. medicines that often have side effects which are different or worse than what is being treated.

The problem is that there are a lot of people out there who are telling people things without researching things properly or evaluating them at all. Parrots can become convincing if they are confident, I know too much, I am not confident. Every time I think I know something I find out that there were flaws in the information I know that require further research. I have learned to investigate things in broad spectrum now, not focusing on just what most people jump at to make conclusions. You need to look at the big picture, that is hard on the eyes when staring at a computer monitor so much.



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