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posted on May, 6 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: n120by60w
Could you supply 1?


There is #2,,,

I have done a information request for this information from the FCC.

The date on what was sent did not go back far enough...

This is what I was able to attain...

Dent, Michael J.
Attachments12/20/12
to me
Ownership Reports

Form 323 Ownership Report for Commercial Broadcast Station

Date Filed File Number Purpose Applicant FRN Applicant Name

06/22/2012 BOS 20120622ACO Ownership Sale 0021268263 WWMT LICENSEE, LLC

06/22/2012 BOS 20120622ACR Ownership Sale 0004331096 SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP, INC.

06/22/2012 BOS 20120622ACP Ownership Sale 0009056482 SINCLAIR COMMUNICATIONS, LLC

06/22/2012 BOS 20120622ACQ Ownership Sale 0009405226 SINCLAIR TELEVISION GROUP, INC.

11/30/2011 BOA 20111130END Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

11/30/2011 BOA 20111130ENA Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM COMMUNICATIONS BROADCAST TRUST

06/01/2007 BOA 20070601AAV Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2007 BOA 20070601AAY Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2007 BOA 20070601ABE Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2007 BOA 20070601ABB Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/31/2007 BOA 20070531BDB Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/31/2007 BOA 20070531BCH Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/31/2007 BOA 20070531BEH Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIH Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIK Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIN Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIP Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIS Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

05/25/2007 BOA 20070525AIW Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAR Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAO Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAL Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAI Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAF Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/08/2005 BOA 20050608AAZ Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPG Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPY Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPT Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPO Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPK Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/01/2005 BOA 20050601CPE Ownership Biennial 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624ACB Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624ADZ Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624ACW Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624AAD Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624AAM Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624AAZ Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/24/2004 BOS 20040624ABN Ownership Sale 0010053007 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ACC Ownership Sale 0010052934 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ACL Ownership Sale 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ACN Ownership Sale 0010052934 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ACW Ownership Sale 0010052975 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN LICENSEE, L.L.C.

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ABT Ownership Sale 0010052934 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ADL Ownership Sale 0010052934 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

06/16/2004 BOS 20040616ADA Ownership Sale 0010052934 SEE EXHIBIT 1 FOR LICENSEE ENTITIES

03/16/2004 BOA 20040316ACA Ownership Biennial 0002742864 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN, INC.

03/16/2004 BOA 20040316ACG Ownership Biennial 0002742864 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN, INC.

03/16/2004 BOA 20040316ACD Ownership Biennial 0002742864 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN, INC.

09/24/2003 BOA 20030924AEY Ownership Biennial 0002742864 FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN, INC.

05/30/2001 BOA 20010530AEY Ownership Biennial FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF MICHIGAN, INC.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AHJ Ownership Biennial HIP, LTD.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AHB Ownership Biennial THRESHIE, LTD.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AGT Ownership Biennial FREEDOM COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AGL Ownership Biennial FREEDMON BROADCASTING, INC.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AFZ Ownership Biennial THRESHIE, LTD

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AFR Ownership Biennial HIP, LTD.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AFJ Ownership Biennial FREEDOM COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

03/29/2001 BOA 20010329AFB Ownership Biennial FREEDOM BROADCASTING, INC.

01/29/1999 BOA 19990129ACF Ownership Biennial FREEDOM BROADCASTING, INC.

09/29/1999 BOA 19990929ABV Ownership Biennial FREEDOM BROADCASTING OF TEXAS, INC.

If you can pick up where I left off it would put you much further ahead than I got...
The Fcc guy said they only have records to this point...

I would see if the Kalamazoo public library might be of assistance.

- Watcher

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posted on May, 6 2018 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: n120by60w

Found it!!!!

I was not even close...

Look under Wikipedia ----- Cherenkov Radiation.....

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation"



Makes sense. The neutron radiation is ionizing the deuterium causing it to glow (knocking electrons loos that travel at greater than 0.75c).




I brought this up because,
I as a layman in this subject wondered if some kind of external field was exciting the hydrogen in us and our surroundings?

Was it a dangerous side effect that should be avoided for the families sake?
(Should we have endeavored to withdraw? We had hunkered down to protect the kids.)

We spoke of sensing devices that might be used for detection...
Maybe we look for or target the source of the causation of these waves???



Well, the Hydrogen isn't really "excited", greater probability for Oxygen.

And, yes, if that is actually what you saw it would be very dangerous, rather intense ionizing radiation (neutron radiation).

For that specific kind of radiation sure, you can detect virtually any type of ionizing radiation, there are commercially available devices.

You should be aware that it is rather improbable that that is what you saw.



posted on May, 7 2018 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: openmindedskeptic1219
a reply to: majickJimi

Hello Sir,

You seem to speak with some authority. I would like to learn more. Whether it be data, or personal experiences.


Well here's a start...

In the summer of 1951 while living at my grandparents farm a UFO appeared over the "back 40". It was there for several days in a row, and so the story goes; there was an open "door" observed. I was apparently a great mystery to the whole family and neighbors. I was 4 1/2 at the time.

On the last day of this thing hovering over grand-father's fields I went missing for about 6 hours. I have had some "flashes" of memory of this over the years.

One memory that I have always thought of as "out of place"; When living near the beach a group of other children motioned me to join them, Next I am standing in front of a wooden fence with the other children a short distance away. The wanted to pull the fence down with a rope they had, I was objecting. They pulled the fence down on top of me.

My mother had no memory of such an event. We did, however, live near the beach; when I was 2 we lived in Redondo Beach, CA. I can't imagine a 2 year old having such an experience withour mother knowing.

What I think is that this memory is actually a part of my first abduction. I went to "investigate" the UFO, and, they "talked" to me for a while, then put an implant in my head.

Another memory that may be a misplaced one; when I was still a rather young child I was stung by a "black wasp" resulting in a "head" injury that took several weeks to heal.

I spent a life time of abductions, most with no memory. Fortunately, now modern science can explain most of this via imbalanced neurotransmitters, so, while I may not have the memories I would like, I can at least understaand "why" they aren't there.


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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: majickJimi

originally posted by: n120by60w

Found it!!!!

I was not even close...

Look under Wikipedia ----- Cherenkov Radiation.....

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation"



Makes sense. The neutron radiation is ionizing the deuterium causing it to glow (knocking electrons loos that travel at greater than 0.75c).




I brought this up because,
I as a layman in this subject wondered if some kind of external field was exciting the hydrogen in us and our surroundings?

Was it a dangerous side effect that should be avoided for the families sake?
(Should we have endeavored to withdraw? We had hunkered down to protect the kids.)

We spoke of sensing devices that might be used for detection...
Maybe we look for or target the source of the causation of these waves???



Well, the Hydrogen isn't really "excited", greater probability for Oxygen.

And, yes, if that is actually what you saw it would be very dangerous, rather intense ionizing radiation (neutron radiation).

For that specific kind of radiation sure, you can detect virtually any type of ionizing radiation, there are commercially available devices.

You should be aware that it is rather improbable that that is what you saw.


I brought it up because it matched what my wife & I saw. It gives people a visualization of what happened.
Maybe some one has another idea of what caused the inner glowing ....

Detection of this was the other reason...
Someone suggesting building a detector... It would do the trick if this was the actual cause.

Like I said, Maybe someone else has input that might be a more plausible cause...

- Watcher

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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: n120by60w

Like I said, Maybe someone else has input that might be a more plausible cause...



More plausible cause: Altered visual perception due to altered brain chemistry.

There is a modern medication for insomnia called "Suvorexant. This drug can produce most of the symptoms associated with abduction; read about it here : en.wikipedia.org...

There are almost necessarily other neurotransmitters involved with consciousness, and I would be rather sure that ET abductors not only know of them, but, are using them. These chemicals that we are exposed t during an abduction event may, and , probably do, cause all sort of visual, as well as other physical effects.

Trying to detect anything that ET might be exposing us to is probably a waste of time until we have a much better handle on "what" we are being exposed to. Thus, the detection of the abduction event itself seems a far more plausible direction to go. This way we can begin to understand the event itself.

Detecting the event may be easy! We now have technologies that will detect the "missing time" and other reported effects of the abduction event. A common "health tracking" wrist band may be all we need to bust our abductors. I current use a device that tracks heart data (heart rate, blood pressure, oxygen content, respiration rate), along with "steps" (specific movement) and sleep. This device is capable of "noticing" if it is removed for a period of time, or if it is too far from my phone for its normal "BlueTooth" communications. It can detect abnormal sleep patterns, and of course "steps" or movement (it even has a GPS option, though I think it uses the GPS in my phone for that).

The point of all that: I can get a fairly good indication of what happened during the night. My wrist band data along with what memory I may have should be more than enough to "bust" alien abductors.

And, of course, this can be vastly improved by writing the right software (phone or PC APP). The thing with the software is that we need to come up with a good design. (easy right?)

My experience so far has been to get to know my "normal" sleep patterns. I have had, in the past year, one event that may have been an abduction. Something I would consider suspicious; Long periods (hour or more) of "awake" in the middle of the night, with NO memory of the event. Indecently, these devices use an algorithm that uses; heart rate, blood oxygen, and respiration rate to determine when One is sleeping...and that is something ET cannot affect. ET can cause us to loose consciousness, BUT, that is not the same as sleeping.

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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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oops duplicate
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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: majickJimi

originally posted by: n120by60w

I was not even close...

Look under Wikipedia ----- Cherenkov Radiation.....

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation"



Makes sense. The neutron radiation is ionizing the deuterium causing it to glow (knocking electrons loos that travel at greater than 0.75c).





We spoke of sensing devices that might be used for detection...
Maybe we look for or target the source of the causation of these waves???



Well, the Hydrogen isn't really

very dangerous, rather intense ionizing radiation (neutron radiation).

you can detect virtually any type of ionizing radiation, there are commercially available devices.

it is rather improbable that that is what you saw.


So the walls are blue. (Emitting the light)
My wife and I are also lit in the same manner.
I can move around normally in the room.
I move into the hallway and kids rooms to move them to our bedroom so we are all together.
The entire house and outside the house is in the same state.

What your thoughts about what it could be?

My wife, I and the kids were all wide awake.
We all have the same memories of the incident.

I am excited that I finally have someone shed some light on what was the cause of physical effect we were enveloped in...
None of us were adversely effected with the exception that we got the bejesus scared out of us...

- Watcher

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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: n120by60w


Logically there are only two probabilities;

1. Some sort of ionizing radiation that is producing the effect. However, since you and your family were not affected by this I should think that it was not ionizing radiation. It seems reasonable to think that any radiation strong enough to produce the effect you saw would also be quite dangerous.

2. The side-effects of some brain chemical (neurotransmitters) affecting substance i.e. drugs. This kind of affect has been reported by users of psychedelics (like '___'. Peyote, etc., and even some "sleep" drugs like the one in my last post). Fundamentally, mind altering substances.

I suppose there might be a third here...it might be possible that illumination by some wave lengths of light can produce what you saw.

Or a combination of all the above, technollogically induced.


But, still, we seriously NEED to collect data to prove that an event is actually occurring. (and, YES, I know just how real those events are to the abductee)
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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I may have been abducted last night while I slept.

I use a heart / activity / sleep monitor and it showed an interesting sleep pattern.



I tend to go to bed rather late, this has developed over the past 20 years as a defense mechanism against nocturnal abductions. It doesn't work all that well, but it is what it is.


So...let me break this down for ya...

The initial "light sleep" lasts for 20 minutes. The subsequent "deep sleep" lasts 1h 20m...it ends at 5:10am where the device thinks I'm awake The first "awake" period lasts 15 min. then I'm in deep sleep again for 10 min., then awake again for 20 min. It ends with light sleep for 20 min then deep sleep until I wake up for the day. The event lasted 45 - 65 minutes. I was never conscious or aware of my environment.

While it is not possible to determine IF the was a brief abduction from the available data, this sort of pattern is along the line of what I would expect to see as far as partial data goes.

What we do know is that there was an event that started at or just before 5:10am and lasted until at least 5:55am. During this time I was technically "awake" twice for a total of 35 minutes and have no recollection of the event. All of this is consistent with Orexin (neurotransmitter) control.

BYW: My device determines wakefulness (awake and sleeping) by measuring at least three physiological parameters; heart rate, respiration rate, blood oxygen level. All three of these change noticeably depending on how awake or asleep One is.

So there ya have it: Hard data on a possible abduction.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 07:12 PM
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I don't really self identify as an abductee, but I have kind of a story to share.

When I was approximately 7 years old (~1993) my father witnessed a UFO hovering just above our home (within 50 to 100 feet) at around 0330 when he got up early to get around for work. Being a rather salt of the earth sort, and not at all science / technology / sci-fi minded, he immediately roused my mother, sister and myself and made us run outside to see the craft. My mother served as a crew chief (aircraft maintenance) in the USAF during Vietnam and was more versed than the average person in identifying traditional aircraft, and she made some kind of comment like "yeah, that's definitely a UFO". She did, however, prevent me from going outside to personally see, and actually told me to go back to sleep and forget about the whole thing...

The odd part is that my next clear memory was several hours later, in the middle of the day. I didn't just fall asleep and wake up, I literally came to in the middle of the day...staring at the sky through a window in my bedroom, cringing at the sound of a passing airplane.

The experience definitely had elements of the abduction narrative, but in reality I have no idea what happened that day, if anything at all. My parents refused to discuss it for years, and my sister doesn't remember the incident. I asked my dad about it a few years ago before he passed away, and he confirmed that he definitely saw something in the sky that night that was unlike anything he had ever seen, and that it terrified him, and that he tried to avoid thinking about it.

After that experience I had a paralyzing fear of anything that looked like a grey alien. At the time, they hadn't quite permeated popular culture to the degree they would in the late 90's, so I hadn't seen much, if anything, on any of the 4 channels of tv we had regarding greys / abduction. I refused to sleep in a room by myself until I was 11 or 12.

More interestingly (although very possibly unrelated), after the summer of that event, I went from struggling previously to keep up with the very basics of elementary school, to academically gifted. I was actually so behind that I had been placed in a special education program. Maybe it was a natural maturation, but after that I would never again experience academic failure or struggle intellectually with anything. I graduated from the Navy's nuclear power program, and went on eventually to earn a bachelors of science in applied physics, with a 3.98 GPA.

That event was like a toggle switch in my life. Since that morning my life has been almost solely about the understanding of science / technology and the underlying nature of reality. Even if the journey proves futile I have to know what it was my family saw that night, and what it is that so many other people are seeing and experiencing.

Kind of rambling I know, and not an abduction story in the truest sense, but I hope at least somewhat relevant.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Shadow

Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad it was a positive one.

I also think that I was given something.
I am intuitive with software and electronic problems.
Even thought I am highly trained, I sometimes do things that are unexplainable.
How the heck did I know that?
I guess that's another conversation.


For others Abductees sometimes it is rather traumatic.

I am dealing with some issues myself right now.

Abductee's deal with the events that we find ourselves in different manors.

If I am having problems I usually withdraw...
Isolating myself until I am back to normal.

Some abductees are in the middle of a flight or flight reaction.
I suggest taking a breath and just observing
ourselves,
and the situation
when we have a lull in whatever your going threw.

I found my reaction unwarranted at one time.

I had failed to notice a point where I could react with a positive outcome in another.

Just by stepping back from the situation as I had perceived it initially.
The "Pause" gives you time to react beyond emotion.

As someone here said recently...
Some of these entities feed on emotion.
Take away their control and the feeding of their addiction by giving time for thoughtful reactions.

When safety is involved speed is of the essence I understand.

If you think about it times like those instances
it seems like time is slowed.

So the reaction can be metered by a "compressed time" pause for observation
so a thoughtful reaction is taken.

Perhaps we should talk about how it affects us, our families, our friends and our relationships.

- Watcher

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posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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I just would like to know how I had a bi lateral hernia surgery performed without any medical record of it being performed, until I just had another 3 years ago.

My surgeon confirmed it, due to taking another full hour to complete the surgery due to scaring in the exact same place as I just had done. 😨

We argued back and forth for 5 mins. 😒



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Thx you!

Couldnt.have said it better myself.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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Getting a scan for an MRI 2 years ago for my back and neck, the tech said " so looking at your info, you have no metal plating or screws on your body, correct?"

ME: "yes, to the best of my knowledge "

TECH: "do you have any implants?"

ME "like alien implants?" Looking at her thinking she was joking

TECH: "yes" looking down at the ground

ME: "have you had anyone that has? Seriously?"

TECH: (looking at me with a stright face and nodding slightly) "we have to ask,"

😨😨😨


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posted on May, 18 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Komodo
a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Thx you!

Couldnt.have said it better myself.


Actually...IF I was ET and wanted to abduct you, I'd turn off all your tech...problem solved. The only thing the abductee would have is a hangover, and a question as to why his tech failed...and nothing else.

Although, as a defensive measure that might not be too bad, may even work...at first. But for science, any technology that can be circumvented is more or less useless. Devising technological measures that can't be circumvented is a better way to actually find some data, resolution,and closure on the abduction phenomenon. Seriously, man, we can't even demonstrate a reasonable probability that the abduction experience is really a "thing". For all we know it is completely a reaction to Orexin or some other neurotransmitter.

Why would the MRI Tech joke about implants? I have an implant; it is made by Boston Scientific and regulates my heart. An MRI machine too close could cause a malfunction, or turn it off (or so they say), either way, dangerous for me.


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posted on May, 19 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
I wonder why aliens never abduct scientists, great music composers, super athletes, or great thinkers or 10 year olds so smart they're physicians practicing, and use their dna or analyze their biology since they are the cream of the crop.

Makes me wonder that's all.


Fighter pilots, Astronauts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dr's, Military officers and enlisted are more likely to be at the tip of the spear in random contacts.

So what is your supasion based on?

20% of a random room responds that they have direct or family Ufo experiences. Pick a room where you feel safe in asking this hot button question and report your results. Even Christian churches had done this. Then to their amazement get the same results. L. A. Marzulli toutes this as one of his talking points.

If you are sincere then find a group of pears that you trust. Ask them in mass " Have any of you, or in your family experienced a UFO abduction, shared with your family that they have had a UFO experience?" Then write down their occupations, I think you maybe surprised in the results.

I was Enlisted in the Air Force. A Instrument Trainer Instructor. The group that was with me during our abduction were highly trained in Weather, Radar, Navigation, Electronics, Physics, Medical, Flight & cultural interactions. I think that is quite a wide swath of individuals and skills. A lot of races and physical attributes.

I did not even think of this aspect... Made me think that it might not have been random... Thanks for bringing it up...

- Watcher

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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 12:14 AM
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I am thinking over the years here at ATS.

It has brought me to a better place.

Now in my final years I must assess the best allocation of my time left.

In the last chat and this current one I have asked my fellow abductees to support one another.

Not to group all races, creatures planets of origin or a beings life form into one mindset.
They are individuals.
With jobs and their own interests.

There are many that wish no harm and some that do.

There is a console of 9 races that have been waiting for us to make the next step.
They have given the opportunity to ower leaders and those in charge to let us in on the true nature of our being.
I really think that we are up to the task if we as a race (Human) are given the choice.

There are those on the Human side and those on the non Human side that believe that things just need a real reset.
They are willing to let the mass's pass without the opportunity of making that choice themselves.
I really do not believe what they understand the consequences to themselves by blocking others path...

Continue on with your conversations.

Allow your belifes to be challenged.

Allow yourselves to change over time.

Be positive and respectful of one another.

I wish you and your families understanding of our shared experiences.
I wish you all safety and good health.

I thank my family for supporting the risks that I have taken over the years here talking about our experiences.

I thank Stanton Freeman for his advice.
I think Travis Walton for taking the time to speak with me over the phone while I was in snowflake.
Both brought me to a better place with simple frank observations.
I thank MUFON for getting me though flashbacks that were debilitating.
I thank Michigan Mufon Directors George and Shirley Coin for their time and efforts in putting me back together in hard times.... (Gods speed George)
I thank the members and leadership here at ATS for there support over the years.
William One Sac... I owe you one buddy..... Things were just to much for many of us to take....
ATS Thank you for giving us a place to hone our perceptions.

We made some good observations over the years.
If your new to this experience review the archives.

Serious - Abductee Chat forum - 2018 (Apr, 7 2018 - May 26th 2018)
Serious - Abductee Chat forum (Apr, 23 2009 - Feb, 2 2013)

This is Watcher officially bowing out....

All the best.

Peace and Love to you all,

Michael.....

N120BY60W@Gmail.Com

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posted on May, 26 2018 @ 02:12 AM
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My heart goes out to those members on here that have had an 'experience', keep your chin up, we care and are here to listen however traumatic or not.

I know I don't understand a fraction of what I've experienced as a child or a teen, but I know I'm loved still and so are you my friend




posted on May, 28 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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On the subject of experiencers/abductees there was a study carried out by MUFON titled Omega3 that does indeed look into the issue from a scientific perspective. Even though the papers themselves are not out there the major findings of the study and the connections between the individuals is quite striking.

I urge anyone to Google "mufon omega 3" as it's worth a read. I would post myself but am on mobile currently and it's difficult, I will post once on proper pc.

Pigsy




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