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originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: eNumbra
Now that this is out of the way, the same sort of logic applies, and I'll use it: Yes, if Beggs wants to claim to be a male, then Beggs should be wrestling guys, especially if Beggs has undergone hormone therapy, which would be a massive disadvantage for the girls wrestling.
But here's the reality of life: There are rules that govern this, and I understand that Beggs is advocating for a change in the rules, but until that change happens, this is what it is. Right now, Beggs is basically a girl on testosterone injections, so I would wonder how that doesn't bar Beggs from wrestling at all, unless since it's shown to be prescribed by a doctor that doesn't make it a performance-enhancing drug/treatment.
So, until the official rules are changes, Beggs wrestles in the female side because, well, technically speaking...
eNumbra, thanks for point that out to me in a constructive way.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: eNumbra
Or have three divisions: Female, Male, and mixed. I doubt that there would be very many in the mixed division, though, so there would probably be a lot of wins by default.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Trans females (born a male transitioning to female) who blocked testosterone before puberty and started taking estrogen right away will have the same muscle and bone mass as a girl.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Trans females (born a male transitioning to female) who blocked testosterone before puberty and started taking estrogen right away will have the same muscle and bone mass as a girl.
Does this girl have chromosomal abnormalities?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver
You are trying to compare someone with a medical condition that would be repaired with something like testosterone, to someone who just wants to be more buff. That is an unfair comparison.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Trans females (born a male transitioning to female) who blocked testosterone before puberty and started taking estrogen right away will have the same muscle and bone mass as a girl.
I agree about 80%.. nothing is 100%...but what if they start their transition at left say 16?
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Does this girl have chromosomal abnormalities?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver
You are trying to compare someone with a medical condition that would be repaired with something like testosterone, to someone who just wants to be more buff. That is an unfair comparison.
That is not a chromosomal abnormality. There is an old man who live down my road who thinks he’s John F. Kennedy. Do I have to treat him like he’s John F Kennedy?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Does this girl have chromosomal abnormalities?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver
You are trying to compare someone with a medical condition that would be repaired with something like testosterone, to someone who just wants to be more buff. That is an unfair comparison.
Yes, his chromosomes don't match his brain. That's an abnormality.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
That is not a chromosomal abnormality.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Does this girl have chromosomal abnormalities?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver
You are trying to compare someone with a medical condition that would be repaired with something like testosterone, to someone who just wants to be more buff. That is an unfair comparison.
Yes, his chromosomes don't match his brain. That's an abnormality.
It is listed as a psychological disorder. ( same as my buddy JFK’s condition). There is no physical basis for determining it to be a medical condition. It is described as a strong feeling. Which is not a medical condition.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Woodcarver
That is not a chromosomal abnormality.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Does this girl have chromosomal abnormalities?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver
You are trying to compare someone with a medical condition that would be repaired with something like testosterone, to someone who just wants to be more buff. That is an unfair comparison.
Yes, his chromosomes don't match his brain. That's an abnormality.
Gender dysphoria is a real and true medical condition.
The main psychiatric approaches to treatment for persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria are psychotherapy or supporting the individual's preferred gender through hormone therapy, gender expression and role, or surgery.