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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: aethertek

There is no difference and the only reasons all of those people have to believe what "Q" says is confirmation bias and pure desire to believe.

It's no different than how many people reacted to John Titor.

Or Barack Obama.

He was the Lightbringer that promised to deliver us Hope & Change. He was going to end the wars -- first thing -- and save millions of lives. He was going to undo the Patriot Act and restore our civil liberties.

No one did hope-porn like Obama. And the media peddled his false hope 24/7.

Is it that bad that people entertain the 'Q' thing? I understand your point about some people fixating on p gate kind of stuff...but there are so many people in the 'Q' threads that are not so fixated...some even seem completely uninterested in that.

At least 'Q' isn't running for President and isn't being peddled by the MSM.

I think it's totally appropriate to see the 'Q' stuff discussed in online forums. I trust the mods will remove anything that is defamatory. And, to be honest, I find 'Q' more believable and interesting than Obama.

Obama was dangerous because he was given real power. 'Q' is just a waste of hope, at the very worst.

For now, anyway.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don’t like Obama, but please quote and cite where Obama said he would undo the patriot act?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don’t like Obama, but please quote and cite where Obama said he would undo the patriot act?

In 2003, Obama provided the following answers to those three questions...

Q. Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?

A. Yes, I would vote to repeal the U.S. Patriot Act, although I would consider replacing that shoddy and dangerous law with a new, carefully crafted proposal that addressed in a much more limited fashion the legitimate needs of law enforcement in combating terrorism (for example, permitting a warrant for the interception of cell phone calls, and not just land-based phones to accommodate changes in technology).

Link

But, let's get real, here. We aren't talking about promises that 'Q' has made. We are talking about the hope people are giving 'Q.' THAT is what I compared to Obama.

Obama supporters believed/hoped he would repeal the Patriot Act. That is the kind of blind devotion they placed in him and it was based on his statements. Sure...he flip flopped completely and extended the Patriot Act beyond what even Republicans wanted, but 'Q' believers are so much more scary than Obama supporters....or something like that.

Promises? Yeah, 'Q' hasn't promised to deliver jack squat. We are comparing the adoring legions, here.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
We are talking about the hope people are giving 'Q.'

You have that backwards, Q is giving you hope that Hope and Change 2.0 might be real.

Same goal as with Obama, with a different wrapper.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
We are talking about the hope people are giving 'Q.'

You have that backwards, Q is giving you hope that Hope and Change 2.0 might be real.

Same goal as with Obama, with a different wrapper.

I am not a 'Q' believer and I am trying to be objective, here.

Why is a 'Q' believer so much worse than an 'Obama' believer?

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
I am not a 'Q' believer and I am trying to be objective, here.

Fine but that still doesn't change the fact that Q is giving people hope that Trump's Hope & Change is real and not the other way around.

Why is a 'Q' believer so much worse than a 'Obama' believer?

They are not, they are the same.

So out of curiosity, did Q post any revelations that were previously unknown? I mean.. actual, factual, proven statements that were not known to anyone else until Q posted it. Or was it just basically a summarized version of what can be found on most news sites and conspiracy boards, with some cryptic crap thrown in for good measure to make it look special and "legit?"

I'd love to see a list of proven Q posted factoids that made people aware of something that they were not aware of previously.

originally posted by: daskakik
They are not, they are the same.

I think that's a reasonable answer.

a reply to: OveRcuRrEnteD

let it go with aethertek . you will get nowhere

originally posted by: OveRcuRrEnteD
a reply to: Sillyolme

what is the juiciest most real and verifiable tidbit obtained by Q?

predicting the timing of the presidents tweets into his posts...multiple times.

I don’t get it
He tweets all day long, starts with his first bowell movement at 5 am eastern
It’s also easy to guess what he will say

Unless there was something specific.

Do tell

a reply to: daskakik

I think she meant that people are putting their hopes in Q. I guess it is basically the same though, except Obama was candidate and president and so he had more credibility.

But actually Q is as much a sink for hope as a source of hope. They/he/it keeps saying how important the people are going to be in defeating the deep state but I don't see them provide any ideas for how to actually work toward this, they're just keeping a few fans plugged into their pro-Trump narrative to spin political happenings in a certain light as they develop. And I wont be feeling hopeful if Q's dream of martial law comes true and they start sending US citizen to Gitmo because they're criminals but their crimes are too secret to reveal to the people, so they have to be just locked away, although maybe I'm getting Q mixed up with Meg there, if it was only she who said that everything was gonna go down in secret and not be revealed for decades. Either way, would it be a good idea to turn the Marines into Trump's private police force? Even if they could pull it off; it took Putin more than 15 years in power to achieve the same thing with his National Guard, and I think it's harder to pull in the USA.

I don't want to poo poo on Q-believers though, or anyone else who is OK with Q. We just see it differently I guess. The topic definitely warrants some threads on ATS.

a reply to: violet
It had to do with timestamps. Q would put intervals in brackets in one of his posts: [5] [10] [15]etc
then POTUS would tweet at those exact intervals. It happened multiple times. sorry, I don't have time to go back and dig all of that up but it's in the white rabbit thread part 1 I think around early to mid December

a reply to: OveRcuRrEnteD

Thanks. Is the white rabbit thread here on ATS?

a reply to: violet
here's where it started. good luck!

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
We are talking about the hope people are giving 'Q.'

You have that backwards, Q is giving you hope that Hope and Change 2.0 might be real.

Same goal as with Obama, with a different wrapper.

You used the word "goal" which indicates a similarity in political objectives.

How are you arriving at Obama and Trump as similar in their political objectives? You do realize Trump is the anti-Obama right?

Hope is not a strategy. Obama proved that with his failed presidency. Trump is actually producing results. Regardless, if the left chooses to acknowledge it or not is irrelevant.

a reply to: Outlier13

I thought I made it clear, the goal is making the people "hope" that the guy at the helm is going to give them "change" that is worth "believing" in. Reaching that "goal" means pandering to what the majority feels they want.

It doesn't mean that the political/administrative objectives are the same. Those would be the objectives that people would like to see reached, but that is meaningless if TPTB reach their goal.

The reason I call it "Hope and Change 2.0" is because it differs from the Obama version. It was the version needed by TPTB when the pendulum swung the other way.

a reply to: Cutepants

I'm thinking that that Q being a sink for hope has more to do with people projecting their desire for Q to be a source of hope which bring us right back to Q just being a source of hope.

Actually, I would like to like to walk back what I posted to MotherMayEye and say that your average Obama and Trump fan are the same; and in the spirit of not poo pooing Q-believers, I would say that they are a little better because at least they want to be a part of something that causes change but I think they are latching on to something that will probably let them down in the long run.

What a load of bull#.

Hyperdramatic nonsensical bull#.

That´s my opinion about it and I can´t fathom how anybody can put any faith into this except for maybe being totally desperate.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I don’t like Obama, but please quote and cite where Obama said he would undo the patriot act?

In 2003, Obama provided the following answers to those three questions...

Q. Would you vote to repeal the Patriot Act?

A. Yes, I would vote to repeal the U.S. Patriot Act, although I would consider replacing that shoddy and dangerous law with a new, carefully crafted proposal that addressed in a much more limited fashion the legitimate needs of law enforcement in combating terrorism (for example, permitting a warrant for the interception of cell phone calls, and not just land-based phones to accommodate changes in technology).

Link

But, let's get real, here. We aren't talking about promises that 'Q' has made. We are talking about the hope people are giving 'Q.' THAT is what I compared to Obama.

Obama supporters believed/hoped he would repeal the Patriot Act. That is the kind of blind devotion they placed in him and it was based on his statements. Sure...he flip flopped completely and extended the Patriot Act beyond what even Republicans wanted, but 'Q' believers are so much more scary than Obama supporters....or something like that.

Promises? Yeah, 'Q' hasn't promised to deliver jack squat. We are comparing the adoring legions, here.

So? You cannot actually quote where Obama said he would undo the patriot act. There is plenty to pin on Obama without you creating false narratives concerning his presidential campaign. And Obama wasn’t even a senator until 2005. You are using a statement to outline what he would do as president made to outline what he would do as a senator? Weak.......

Presidents veto, senators vote.......

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: purplemer

the exact same deep state that elected trump?

if you want to defeat them, then maybe elect an 100% unaligned politician

There has been an information war wagged worldwide against trump before he gained power. Who do you think is behind this. Why do you think he is at logger heads with the CIA. Why do you think the FBI is being investigated. Why do you think there are Clinton Foundation is being investigated. Why do you think human trafficking arrests are at record levels worldwide. Why 13,000k plus indictments in the US now. I could go on.