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Possible 25 Cents A Gallon Gas Tax To Help Pay For Trump's Infastructure Plan?

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posted on Feb, 12 2018 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: pavil




Every State is in similar problems.

That is not so.
www.forbes.com...



That same session also, with the approval of the state's voters, tapped the Rainy Day Fund for $2.25 billion to fund much-needed road improvement projects all over Texas.


they might all go to hell, and I would go to Texas.
David Crockett


Look at Texas's pension obligations......

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Austin, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio collectively face $22.6 billion worth of pension fund shortfalls, according to a new report from credit rating and financial analysis firm Moody’s

hahahaha
oh all the states have road problems
oops i mean pension problems
oops what other story can i make up....
10b in the fund according to the forbes link i posted
that was AFTER 2b in 2013 to fix roads
and done WITH NO STATE INCOME TAX

not all states are run the same




posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: pavil

To alert my friends and family. So they can alert others. And so on. People should be warned what republicans have in store for them. There are a lot of poor people in Idaho.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: pavil

You are a Republican alright. Got that spoon feeding the voters with “ifs” down. Gambling with their lives.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

States don't have the funds to do all the infrastructure. Thats why I posted the pension obligations. If they did, it would all be done and more projects would be happening.

Are you contending all of Texas's infrastructure needs are being met?

Texas gets a C Minus on infrastructure
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How Texas stacks up
According to the American Society of Civil Engineers, a B means infrastructure is adequate, a C indicates general deterioration and a D shows that it’s at risk.
Categories Grades
Aviation B-
Bridges B
Dams D
Drinking water D+
Flood control D
Highways and roads D
Wastewater D

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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: pavil

To alert my friends and family. So they can alert others. And so on. People should be warned what republicans have in store for them. There are a lot of poor people in Idaho.


Yeah Idaho is a real Democrat stronghold.

What's your solution to funding Infrastructure?

You are making this a partisan issue, I just want the work started and paid for in some manner.

Let's hear your solution.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: pavil

Idaho has been republican run for 30 years. There are lots of rural towns and low wages. There are 85,000 idahoans who rely on snap for food supplement.
My solution is to borrow more money.



posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: pavil

I provided a link from forbes that showed 2 bil spent on highway improvements begun in 2013 without a ridiculous $0.25 per gallon tax on gasoline.
2 bil from the state rainy day fund, not from the fed or any other state.


rainydayfund.cppp.org...


By the end of fiscal 2019, $11.9 billion will be available in the Fund.

That is AFTER money spent recovering from hurricane harvey.


The pension link you posted was from dec of 16. The dow closed 16 at 19,762.60. Today the dow is at 24,640. Perhaps those pension woes have been remedied?

Again not all states are run equally.


Oh from your link, you left this part out...



Still, Texas is doing better than the nation as a whole. The group graded the country a D+ overall in March.



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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Great....still not enough considering the grade from the Engineers.

You don't want more infrastructure done for your State. That's fine too.

I don't care how things get funded as long as it gets done in a reasonable way.

Thump your chest about a C Minus.......

Lol


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posted on Feb, 13 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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Michigan spent 3.8 B in 2014 on roads and they still suck and are in need of major improvements.

That's how major an issue infrastructure is. I'm sure Michigan isn't the only State facing such issues.


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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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Gas taxes, California legislators just created a large creamy body of aids infected fluid in there pantalones
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posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: mikell

how about a 2 to 4 cent per dollar sales tax on everything not currently under fedral sales tax and that way everybody would contribute even non documented immigrants.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Taxes like that are the only way to really raise revenue. They are fair because everyone shares the burden of government. I personally think everyone shouldn't receive any kind of tax return. Once people feel the burden for what they vote for they'll stop voting for it.



posted on Feb, 14 2018 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: pavil

c- > d+
with NO state income tax
and a healthy raony day fund

clean up your own backyard before trying to clean mine



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: seagull
Federal gas tax. Bad idea. This is a state and local matter.

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Would you support new tolls on roads and bridges instead of petrol taxes going up? In New Zealand around 30-33 cents of our current petrol prices (around $2.12 per litre) goes into the government's coffers. I would prefer road tolls in our main centers, so I don't pay for Auckland transport projects while living in Invercargill.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: Stuship
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Taxes like that are the only way to really raise revenue. They are fair because everyone shares the burden of government. I personally think everyone shouldn't receive any kind of tax return. Once people feel the burden for what they vote for they'll stop voting for it.

You do realize that would only serve to screw over the millions of people who live pay check to pay check and rely on their tax return to help make payments and whatnot at this time of year.



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: pavil

c- > d+
with NO state income tax
and a healthy raony day fund

clean up your own backyard before trying to clean mine



You are missing the point.

We are all in need of more money spent on infrastructure. Hardly any State is doing great in this regard.



posted on Feb, 15 2018 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: xpert11

Actually, that's not a bad idea. The tolls exacted would be used on that particular road.

Or something of the sort. No, I don't think I'd have much of an issue with that. Provided that the money is used to maintain the roads and not used for other things.

The idea is certainly worth considering.



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