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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
As much information as possible should be provided for the reason I stated.
But journalists sometimes need to protect their sources, and sometimes there are issues of national security.
Sure the information could be verified, but information to the contrary might be suppressed.
That is why we have freedom of the press. If another reporter can falsify the story, the can always publish an expose. Of course, the government has the power to use "national security" as an excuse to withhold information from the public, as Trump is doing now with the Schiff memorandum.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth
However, I could fit CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT and many more in 4 of the categories for at least one of their crew of 'journalists' and often more (note that the Oxford Uni opinion piece only requires 3 of 5).
Still waiting for examples.
Do you know, for example, how many times pundits on CNN or MSNBC have called the President a white supremacist? No evidence of such, just their own definitive statements and conclusion, never redacted, never an apology. Just politically biased opinions spewed to millions of gullible viewers who then spread it across twitter and facebook. None of that nonsense has been counted in the Oxford University opinion piece.
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
That isn't the point.
They could have big bold letters that give warnings on the fictitious nature of the content but people will still receive it as news.
Let's not kid ourselves, I just visited The Federalist. It's designed to come across as news. Many read such sites as a news source.
Their very nature is deceptive, but then again most people have their heads so far up the you know what to even realise they are deceived daily on a 24 hour basis.
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
That isn't the point.
They could have big bold letters that give warnings on the fictitious nature of the content but people will still receive it as news.
Let's not kid ourselves, I just visited The Federalist. It's designed to come across as news. Many read such sites as a news source.
Their very nature is deceptive, but then again most people have their heads so far up the you know what to even realise they are deceived daily on a 24 hour basis.
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
A perfect example! You did not link to the "first page," which does indeed present itself as news:
thefederalist.com...
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
As much information as possible should be provided for the reason I stated.
But journalists sometimes need to protect their sources, and sometimes there are issues of national security.
Sure the information could be verified, but information to the contrary might be suppressed.
That is why we have freedom of the press. If another reporter can falsify the story, the can always publish an expose. Of course, the government has the power to use "national security" as an excuse to withhold information from the public, as Trump is doing now with the Schiff memorandum.
Or the Schiff memorandum purposefully included classified material in order to impugn the president, unlike the GOP memo.
Trey Gowdy: Democrats may have intentionally included info in their FISA memo that requires redactions
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
A perfect example! You did not link to the "first page," which does indeed present itself as news:
thefederalist.com...
How so?
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
As much information as possible should be provided for the reason I stated.
But journalists sometimes need to protect their sources, and sometimes there are issues of national security.
Sure the information could be verified, but information to the contrary might be suppressed.
That is why we have freedom of the press. If another reporter can falsify the story, the can always publish an expose. Of course, the government has the power to use "national security" as an excuse to withhold information from the public, as Trump is doing now with the Schiff memorandum.
Or the Schiff memorandum purposefully included classified material in order to impugn the president, unlike the GOP memo.
Trey Gowdy: Democrats may have intentionally included info in their FISA memo that requires redactions
The memo can easily be redacted. Why are his lawyers refusing to allow it?
Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s lawyer, said in a letter to the committee on Friday night that the Democratic memo could not be released because it “contains numerous properly classified and especially sensitive passages.” He said the president would again consider making the memo public if the committee, which had approved its release on Monday, revised it to “mitigate the risks.”
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
A perfect example! You did not link to the "first page," which does indeed present itself as news:
thefederalist.com...
How so?
A masthead, bold headlines,pictures... If you don't know better it sure looks like a newspaper.
Examples of what?
I already explained that the criteria are junk, so why would I try to fit stories to them?
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Wait...
So is deception OK or not?
Again, the point I was making is that people do visit such sites and consider it news just as people read CNN reports asking "is Donald Trump a white supremacist" I mean... What's good for the goose?
I've came across no news articles claiming Trump is a white supremacist but I've read 1 or 2 that allude to it, attempted to make my mind up for me.
Anyways, in my opinion it's designed in a style not dissimilar to a news website. I would argue that it's "essays" are just reports of an informing nature.
Call that what you will.
If you can suggest a better format, it might help to allay any confusion you and others face
But until then, it helps to read the mission statements to see what they purport to be instead of assuming, or worse, falsely accusing them that they are purporting to be “real news”.
It would be a dangerous assumption to assume they are deceiving people.