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originally posted by: Scrubdog
Cracks me up how the Republicans have wholly taken MLK in as their own, even stating he'd decry "identity politics" as labeled by the OP.
Right.
King has been sanitized by the right so as to fit their narrative. He was a force of nature, in the face of the establishment, making absolutely everyone uncomfortable. The people here hating on Lewis, a hero, and Obama, another hero, want us to believe that they'd love MLK if he were alive. These same people likely hate Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, all of them, but they love MLK because he's safely in the past, where history can sanitize the message, make it safe.
If you hate Obama, hate Lewis, hate Sharpton, hate Jackson, you'd definitely hate King. The common theme among these men is they refused to apologize for being black and put that unapologetic position right in front of people's threatened faces, which is why they're detested.
King did it better than all of them, all of them put together. he is safely in the past now because he did it better, they had to kill him to shut him up. He was a revolutionary, he lived to make you and me uncomfortable. Your comfort now, in espousing what you KNOW to be true, would be anathema to him.
Go ahead and hate all these men. You're not fooling anyone. I seriously doubt you're fooling yourselves. If I picked you up and put you down back then, or picked him up and placed him down right now, you'd be fighting him just like you fight Obama and Lewis. There's no difference.
All talk, same story.
You don't get to have him. You don't deserve him, none of us do. He martyred himself against a cause carried on today in the heart of people like Trump.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
King was no saint.
originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: schuyler
Reminds me one of my grandmother's bits of wisdom. When someone would start this sort of nonsense she would say, "Well, if pigs could fly we'd all need steal umbrellas."
Rev. Dr. King and I share a birthday so I always remember him on this day. I never saw him in person but watched many of his speeches on tv. I vividly remember living under martial law in Nashville during the days following his murder. Nobody slept in that city for days because the sirens never ceased. I sincerely hope to never experience anything like that again.
My father always believed he was killed because he was so successful in his mission to unite people. He scared the bejusus out of the people who make a living off division. It seems today as if their numbers are legion.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
If you hate Obama, hate Lewis, hate Sharpton, hate Jackson, you'd definitely hate King. The common theme among these men is they refused to apologize for being black and put that unapologetic position right in front of people's threatened faces, which is why they're detested.
Go ahead and hate all these men. You're not fooling anyone. I seriously doubt you're fooling yourselves. If I picked you up and put you down back then, or picked him up and placed him down right now, you'd be fighting him just like you fight Obama and Lewis. There's no difference.
You don't get to have him. You don't deserve him, none of us do. He martyred himself against a cause carried on today in the heart of people like Trump.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
If a person here detests Sharpton, I don't see them being able to listen to King for more than 30 seconds.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: Scrubdog
If you hate Obama, hate Lewis, hate Sharpton, hate Jackson, you'd definitely hate King. The common theme among these men is they refused to apologize for being black and put that unapologetic position right in front of people's threatened faces, which is why they're detested.
For whom do you pretend to speak?
King was not the divider that Lewis, Sharpton, and Jackson are; King was not a perfect man, not was every portion of his message perfect for me, or for my neighbor, or for each individual black American, but he was NOT a divider by nature, he was a unifier by message and action.
The three detestables that you cite purposefully and with design attempt to divide and enflame America, but not for the good of people overall, but to chase a political means to an end (which, coincidentally, ends with them having a lot of money in their bank accounts).
Do not pretend that King was the same as these other three people, because he was not--those three have taken his message and destroyed it and infected it and repackaged it into a system only accessible by swiping the race card.
Go ahead and hate all these men. You're not fooling anyone. I seriously doubt you're fooling yourselves. If I picked you up and put you down back then, or picked him up and placed him down right now, you'd be fighting him just like you fight Obama and Lewis. There's no difference.
And you are speaking from stupidity, because you have no way of justifying your ignorant comments and claims with any shred of proof.
The same could be said about your comment: Go ahead and love all three of those men, but you're not fooling anyone, but I do think that you've fooled yourself.
You don't get to have him. You don't deserve him, none of us do. He martyred himself against a cause carried on today in the heart of people like Trump.
Everyone gets to have him and his legacy--don't presume to be able to pick and choose who gets to appreciate and live by his messages.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
If a person here detests Sharpton, I don't see them being able to listen to King for more than 30 seconds.
At least you admit here that this is just your opinion--and an ignorant one at that. I have sat, by myself, for no other reason that appreciation for MLKJr, and listened to hours and hours of him speaking, and I detest the three other men that you mention.
This will come as a shock to you, but you may not have the grasp on the topic that you think that you do, at least as far as it extends to why "type" of people can appreciate MLKJr and abhor the other people that you cite. It has much more to do with their actions than their message, but even their messages are acidic in nature, and have been for decades; they have earned their ire far more than they have earned their respect.
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Scrubdog
He was a force of nature, in the face of the establishment, making absolutely everyone uncomfortable
You just described Trump to a T.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Scrubdog
He was a force of nature, in the face of the establishment, making absolutely everyone uncomfortable
You just described Trump to a T.
Except Trump has never done a single thing that wasn't for his own personal gain.
Trump and MLK as similar.
Whatever, sport.
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