Federal Government Employee Compensation Report - Surprising Numbers.

The vast majority of Fed workers live in the DC Metro are.

Divide their pay by half.

Since I retired and moved to a rural area.....everything is way so much cheaper and I don't have a 90 minute commute two times a day.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Edumakated
It isn't the salaries, but more so the retirement packages that make these jobs lucrative.

I retired from a 20+ year stint as a government programmer. I get around $36,000/year (which, according to the statistics is below a living wage for a two adult household) as my retirement benefit. I'm astonished to find that this is considered "lucrative."

Forgot to add. You are a 1%er. To be in the top 1% globally, you only need to earn $32,400/yr. The standard of living is so high in the US that even our "poor" are part of the 1%. To be in the top 1% wealth wise, you need about $730,000 in wealth. Your pension certainly qualifies if you are getting $36k/yr.

Just a little perspective even though I know your retirement may not seem like a lot....

Top 1% by Income & Wealth Globally

WOW... that explains why a co-worker of mine retired as a computer analyst, moved back home to India, and is living like a KING. (Big House, Maid, etc.) 401K interest + Social Security = Big Bucks in most of the world.

Yup. A lot of folks moving to really cheap foreign countries. India, Costa Rica, thailand, etc. You can live like royalty on what is a meager salary/retirement in the US.

1.97 million employees at a cash compensation cost of $136.3 billion

Equals $69,000 per employee on average.

As a federal employee in Oklahoma I was making about 50k a year for my civil service work, and another 10 or so as a reservist.

Much like the military when you blankly demand cuts you will not get the people with out of control salaries fixed, you will get the grunt level workers that actually get the job done adjusted out of the workforce.

For those of us that like to hear it.



Bonuses, perks. 8 1/2 weeks paid.

And then..

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
1.97 million employees at a cash compensation cost of $136.3 billion

Equals $69,000 per employee on average.

Doesn't include bonuses, benefits, and parties. Taxpayers cover those too you know.

originally posted by: Irishhaf


Much like the military when you blankly demand cuts you will not get the people with out of control salaries fixed, you will get the grunt level workers that actually get the job done adjusted out of the workforce.

Works the same way in the private sector. And you're right, the people who actually do the real work will get the hatchet, or the additional work-burden left by those who were "trimmed" from the company.

That's why I don't understand how Democrats would rather have a tax INCREASE than a tax DECREASE on employers. You'd be screwing the working guy big-time, if you increased taxes on employers.

Evidently the people at the top of government got big increases in pay and many jobs were filled or formed for good Democrats to fill. This does not surprise me, Obama was not for the people, he was put into office to support his donors and the people in the Medical industry. I wonder how much wealth and benefits he gained from the Medical industry?

I find it more than just a wee bit ironic that most of our resident liberals have avoided this thread (like the plague). This subject paralyzes them, they have no words.

On the one hand, their hero government are clearly soaking everyone else in the private sector, bloated with waste and inefficiencies. Yet on the other hand, to call out the colossal over-spending, waste and graft they would have to expose their own hypocrisy arguing for a more socialist system. It's a double edged sword, both sides of which cut only them in this conversation. But rather than stand up and unite, they hide and remain silent.

I would expect no more.

Speaking of govt paydays.

Trey Gowdy Makes Executive Nervous After Gowdy Loses Patience With Him Playing Dumb! Congressman Trey Gowdy loses his patience and gets mad at the CEO of Freddie Mac when he plays dumb about bad business decisions made by the company.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


Hey now I plan on getting me some more of that Federal cheddar, but I look at it as more like I am finally getting what I should of been paid after 20 years in the military.

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

Again.

At 78 federal government agencies, the average employee compensation exceeded $100,000 in 2016; reaction from Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of Open the Books.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

Again.

At 78 federal government agencies, the average employee compensation exceeded $100,000 in 2016; reaction from Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of Open the Books.

How is that nonsense even relevant? If I make $200,000 a year and you make $1 a year, we both make average $100,000.50.

a reply to: ketsuko

I have two friends. Both do entry level IT work (imaging computers, setting new ones up, carting away old ones). One works for a state agency, the other a private corporation.

Guess who makes more?

The one in the private sector. He's also been given opportunities to get his CompTIA and/or CNA classes paid for by his company to increase his skill set and be more valuable to the corporation.

The reason my other friend takes less pay with fewer opportunities is due to job security. He's told me that the job security makes up for the 10-15% less he makes compared to my other friend.

So it's not a black/white thing.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

Again.

At 78 federal government agencies, the average employee compensation exceeded $100,000 in 2016; reaction from Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of Open the Books.

How is that nonsense even relevant? If I make $200,000 a year and you make $1 a year, we both make average $100,000.50.

Who the hell in the govt works for $1 a year?! Oh wait!

So are you saying 50% make over 100K?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

(Not a liberal)

The pay and benefits are an open secret when someone works for the feds.

Seems like the Federal Government is keeping up with inflation while the private sector is passing improvements in productivity to anyone but the hourly workers.

Is there a large number of govt workers on snap-or using bridge cards?

Anyone has the option of working as a mailworker or at the SS office. If you choose to work for the private sector you know what you get.

Just as much as we are told the shut up about CEO's compensation, we should also shut up about how much a mailman makes. In the scheme of things it is small potatoes.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

Again.

At 78 federal government agencies, the average employee compensation exceeded $100,000 in 2016; reaction from Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of Open the Books.

How is that nonsense even relevant? If I make $200,000 a year and you make $1 a year, we both make average $100,000.50.

Who the hell in the govt works for $1 a year?! Oh wait!

So are you saying 50% make over 100K?

No no no. I'm saying that averages simply don't matter. The important part is how it's distributed...you can't ascribe a problem to a large group effectively or fairly based upon averages.

As a WG 10 step 3 I made around 24 and change an hour, I worked alongside new hires that were a WG 5 making around 12-13 an hour (not exact numbers working off memory) so while they were not quite making little enough to qualify for SNAP they were not far off of it.

I am not defending the top of the GS pay scale, but the WG's are not the ones making huge salaries.

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I mean...am I not liberal enough for you? I don't understand what's so shocking about any of these numbers. It's not just bureaucrats that work for the government. Doctors, scientists, specialists all work for the government and request due compensation for their skills, abilities and knowledge.

A small minority of the federal workforce makes more than six figures.

They demand "due compensation," but when they get compensated that much in the private sector they are "greedy" and horrible people who are lording it over the little common working man?

Oh, irony!

If it is wrong for them to make that much, then it's wrong and especially wrong when the sainted government who does no wrong pays them that much.