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UN poverty official touring Alabama's Black Belt: 'I haven't seen this' in the First World

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posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Willtell



Were talking about policies that can bring poverty down


I get it...

You want my family to have less so you can give it to someone else.

No thanks.




My complaints IS NOT about taxing the lower and MC, it’s about cutting taxes on the rich

I wonder why you miss that all the time…?


Oh, excuse me, unless you’re of the 1 percent?


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posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
The US economy between the end of WWII and 1980 grew unlike anything in recorded history.

WHY

Because the rich were taxed after they made their few million at a cheap rate, at nearly 90 percent.

The infrastructure was built, roads, bridges, massive highways, a vast economic giant was created in America.

Then all of a sudden came the lie that the rich were overtaxed and Ronald Reagan massively cut taxes on the rich and raised them on the MC!

THE THING CALLED A DEFICIT WAS CREATED THAT EQUALED ALL THE DEFICITS COMBINED BY REAGAN'S TAX CUTS…

Then a vast army of people were brainwashed to worry about the taxes that rich people were paying and a conservative army of zombies created to defend the philosophy of trickle down economics.

Poverty went up again, as before the great society programs reduced poverty like never in American history.

The conservative movement now defends the state of the destruction of the American economic system and the elevation of poverty.

It will get worse under Trump



What changed things is globalism.
Why build the infrastructure and country up when the world is your oyster?
Why have tariffs, which our country has a long history of when when most business were national and have gone global?

The best attack against these globalists would be to attack the global military infrastructure they use to protect their globalists interests off of nationalist tax paying dollars.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: ClovenSky

Unfunded liabilities are hardly unique to Kansas though.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

Good idea but any politician who starts taking that won’t last long, believe me.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
The US economy between the end of WWII and 1980 grew unlike anything in recorded history.

WHY

Because the rich were taxed after they made their few million at a cheap rate, at nearly 90 percent.

The infrastructure was built, roads, bridges, massive highways, a vast economic giant was created in America.

Then all of a sudden came the lie that the rich were overtaxed and Ronald Reagan massively cut taxes on the rich and raised them on the MC!

THE THING CALLED A DEFICIT WAS CREATED THAT EQUALED ALL THE DEFICITS COMBINED BY REAGAN'S TAX CUTS…

Then a vast army of people were brainwashed to worry about the taxes that rich people were paying and a conservative army of zombies created to defend the philosophy of trickle down economics.

Poverty went up again, as before the great society programs reduced poverty like never in American history.

The conservative movement now defends the state of the destruction of the American economic system and the elevation of poverty.

It will get worse under Trump


Basic Bull. Not much of a surprise there, though. Revenues to the Federal Gov't went up following the Reagan cuts.

What you omit, deliberately, I assume, is the spending went up more. Spending is controlled by the legislative Branch and NOT the executive. Duh. The Legislative was controlled by the Democrats all of Reagan's Presidency.

Yawn.....



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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touring Alabama's Black Belt






posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Granted, but it is just one example of all of the state promises for money expenditures that has to come out of the pool of dwindling taxpayer money. The great thing about this is the states can't create money out of thin air like the federal gov can. At some point we will actually see the states being forced to balance their budgets, after they have exhausted all options to sell more bonds to suckers.

There are a few states out there that actually show fiscal responsibility. That are able to balance their budgets without going into more and more debt. I wonder if the majority of citizens in those states live a good life, not a rich life but a sustainable life?

I see a lot of poor people around here, poor if you judge them by material standards. But they take great pride in what they do have. They repair and fix the things they use instead of just buying more junk that will break down within 6 months. They don't pour money into their houses to build equity but care for and appreciate what little they do have. They help out neighbors. They grow and can their own food. They don't rely on government handouts. Its like they don't even know they are poor as I usually see a smile on their face and warm feeling after interacting with them. Maybe I am living on a different planet.

But then again it gets -20F out here. Laziness and the victim mentality are usually weeded out pretty quick.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: avgguy Maybe because the only people we vote in, don't give two craps about the average person. That really shouldn't be hard to see.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

So what’s your point ?

My point was that trickle down doesn’t work.

And that the US economy stagnated after the 80’s

Until Bill Clinton raised taxes again and then there was a real economic boom



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:31 PM
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In the world's most robust economy we have something called, "the working poor".

The best part if 10 right wingers will be along or have come along to support the massive income desparity by telling you that the effort you put into your job is simply just not valuable. Work little slave and make me my tastey food or provide me my services loser.

This is the mentality of right wingers and why there has been a massive shift in the Millennial economy towards socialism because they have been SCREWED royally by college debt low wages and the baby boomers social security and pension scams we will never see. The true ME generation.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: avgguy Maybe because the only people we vote in, don't give two craps about the average person. That really shouldn't be hard to see.



They don't
It is all campaign rheteric
They serve their globalist masters.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I agree with your points but nothing will get done until the Republican Party is exposed

They rule the country now, that’s just how dumb the American people are.

America cold have been great but the rich have hired a group of politicians to deceive the country and their doing a great job of it.

People here, lament “Oh the rich, I feel so sorry for them they pay so much taxes”

How stupid is that?



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:39 PM
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I think we all know what the solution is, right?



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:46 PM
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Why don't un 'officials' tour Detroit and other progressive utopias ?

On that's right I guess that isn't part of the 'black' belt.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:47 PM
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How many commercials are there to help feed and give clean water to those in third world countries? Why can't we focus at home first. The blackbelt, parts of west Virginia and im sure other communities in the US have this problem. We never hear about them. The federal government sends aide over sea's but god forbid they help their own citizens.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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Here some of the OP’s link.

I preface this by saying the American landscape is horrible.

Ride around and see every day the streets shut down because the infrastructure is being destroyed by republican governors coddling the rich.

The American infrastructure is breaking down, even Trump admits to that.

Its not going to be fixed by magic but by the taxes people pay, including the rich.

www.al.com...


A United Nations official who tours the globe investigating extreme poverty said Thursday that areas of Alabama's Black Belt are suffering the most dire sewage disposal crisis of any place he has visited in a developed country. "I think it's very uncommon in the First World. This is not a sight that one normally sees. I'd have to say that I haven't seen this," Philip Alston, the UN's Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, said as he toured a Butler County community where raw sewage flows from homes through exposed PVC pipes and into open trenches and pits. Alston was in Alabama on Thursday to bear personal witness to the poverty, lack of access to basic services and civil rights struggles that have plagued poor, mostly African-American residents of the state's Black Belt region for generation


Other western countries aren't like America, they don't have greedy republican politicians sucking the ass of the rich like America does.


They at least see their populations aren't in dire poverty like in America, supposedly the richest country ever.


The link says, the investigator from the UN that:


HE'S NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE WHAT GOES ON IN AMERICA TODAY



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: neo96

There not progressive utopias in America

The American problem is a national one

The scam that the rich don’t have to pay taxes

The infrastructure is falling apart and that’s because REPUBLICAN Governors and national politicians are negligent and don’t want to tax the rich
Cant you understand that...
Infrastructure is the responsibility of government



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sometimes I forget that bill clinton helped balance our budget and create a surplus.



posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
In the world's most robust economy we have something called, "the working poor".

The best part if 10 right wingers will be along or have come along to support the massive income desparity by telling you that the effort you put into your job is simply just not valuable. Work little slave and make me my tastey food or provide me my services loser.

This is the mentality of right wingers and why there has been a massive shift in the Millennial economy towards socialism because they have been SCREWED royally by college debt low wages and the baby boomers social security and pension scams we will never see. The true ME generation.


I could dig holes all day, and if no one needs them dug, it doesn't matter how hard I work at it. Would you pay me for the effort?

So you do need to work hard at things that are valuable. No matter how hard I currently work, my job isn't that valuable overall. So I am not wealthy at it and never will be.

However, I should be doing better than someone who flips burgers because I do something most burger flippers can't ... but do I do something valuable enough to support a family by itself? No, just something harder to do than what a burger flipper does.
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posted on Dec, 9 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: avgguy

As I recall, Alabama is heavily Republican? With a Republican controlled house and Governorship? Hasn't the Republican Party been the majority in Congress for 7 years now? Who's president at the moment? Oh, Republican.

But liberals. Those darn liberals.


In general yes, but those areas he visited are not heavily republican. Lowndes is almost totally Democrat, and Butler is half and half, with those in poverty being mostly Democrat. Regardless of the letter next to the name, the governments of those counties are largely corrupt and "good ol' boy". I live literally a few miles from Lowndes and maybe 10 from Butler, so I have first hand knowledge of what goes on there.

Nice of the UN guy to think that it's up to the local government to take care of private citizen's property. If it's a health issue, condemn the property and move them out.

Too poor to fix a septic tank, but not too poor to go to parties or the local "casinos"... Maybe families should pool their money and fix their own problems before wasting money elsewhere and screaming "Help me government, I'm entitled to everyone else's money!"



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