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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: grey580
That would be a pretty silly move on NK's behalf. I guess it wouldn't be the first time someone had a death wish, though.
Considering even one Ohio class ballistic missile submarine carries ~200 nuclear warheads, any such action by NK would be met with the full weight and power of the United States of America.
NK would cease to exist after that
October 19, 2016
Failed launch of an intermediate-range missile 
February 11, 2017
North Korea test-fired a Pukguksong-2 missile over the Sea of Japan. This was the first launch of the new medium-range ballistic missile .
March 6, 2017
North Korea launches four ballistic missiles from the Tongchang-ri launch site in the northwest. Some flew 620 mi (1,000 km) before falling into the Sea of Japan.
April 4, 2017
North Korea test-fired a medium-range ballistic missile from its eastern port of Sinpo into the Sea of Japan
April 15, 2017
North Korea test-fired an unidentified land-based missile from the naval base in Sinpo but it exploded almost immediately after the takeoff .
April 28, 2017
North Korea test-fired an unidentified missile from Pukchang airfield. Missile, believed to be a medium-range KN-17 ballistic missile, falters and breaks apart minutes after liftoff.
May 13, 2017
North Korea test-fired a Hwasong-12 missile from a test site in the area of Kusong. The missile, later revealed to be an intermediate range ballistic missile, traveled 30 minutes, reached an altitude of more than 2,111.5 km, and flew a horizontal distance of 789 km (489 miles), before falling into the Sea of Japan. Such a missile would have a range of at least 4,000, reaching Guam, to 6,000 km.
May 21, 2017
North Korea test-fired another Pukguksong-2 medium-range ballistic missile from Pukchang airfield, which traveled approximately 300 miles before falling into the Sea of Japan. The missile landed about 217 miles from North Korea's east coast.
May 29, 2017
North Korea fired a Short Range Ballistic Missile into the Sea of Japan. It traveled 450 km.
June 8, 2017
North Korea fired several missiles into the Sea of Japan. They are believed to be anti-ship missiles. The South Korean military said the launches show the reclusive regime's "precise targeting capability."
June 23, 2017
North Korea tested a new rocket engine that could possibly be fitted to an intercontinental ballistic missile.
July 4, 2017
North Korea tested its first intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) named Hwasong-14 on July 4. It launched from the Panghyon Aircraft Factory 8 km southeast of Panghyon Airport. It was aimed straight up at a lofted trajectory and reached more than 2,500 km into space. It landed 37 minutes later, more than 930 km from its launch site, into Japan's exclusive economic zone. Aiming long, the missile would have traveled 7,000-8,000 km or more, reaching Alaska, Hawaii, and maybe Seattle. Its operational range would be farther, bringing a 500 kg payload to targets in most of the contiguous United States 9,700 km away.
July 28, 2017
The 14th missile test carried out by North Korea in 2017 was another ICBM launched at 23:41 North Korea time (15:41 GMT) from Chagang Province in the north of the country on July 28, 2017. Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Boston, and New York appear to be within range. The missile's reentry vehicle (RV) was seen by people in Japan as it entered the atmosphere and landed near the northernmost Japanese island, Hokkaido. Analysis later revealed that the RV broke up on re-entry; further testing would be required. The CIA made an assessment expecting adequate performance of the RV under the different stresses of a shallower trajectory towards the continental US.
August 26, 2017
North Korea test fires three short range ballistic missiles from the Kangwon province on August 26. Two travel approximately 250 kilometers in a northeastern direction and one explodes immediately after launch.
August 29, 2017
On August 29, 2017, at 6 AM local time, North Korea launched a ballistic missile over Northern Japan. The missile's short and low trajectory and its breakup into three pieces is consistent with the failure of a heavy post-boost vehicle.
September 15, 2017
North Korea launched a ballistic missile on September 15 from Sunan airfield. It reached a height of 770 km and flew a distance of 3,700 km for 17 minutes over Hokkaido before landing in the Pacific.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: TheLotLizard
US armed forces have a job to do, and they're going to do it whether they win any popularity contests or not. I know it is hard for some to believe, but most of the country (and especially its armed forces and government services) couldn't give a crap less how people feel/think about them.
They have a duty to protect this country, and NK will find that out in short order if they want to test us. The world should never doubt the resolve of the United States of America.
And FYI, if they used any type of WMD (or if SK was at risk of falling) they would find out precisely what "superpower" means.
No one said it would be simple. But it is far from the Armageddon people like to pretend will happen as well.
Besides, letting a few regiments of NK troops march on SK would be a God send - they'd realize they've been lied to their entire lives, and that their weird system of communism was actually oppressing them and keeping them down. Any military unit that made it across the border would become astutely aware of this fact, after they saw the buildings in their cities were actually real buildings (with electric too!) and that people weren't littered all over the streets like trash. Oh, not to mention the cars and the food.
NK is a menace. Not just to the world, but to its own people. The way they treat their subjects (not citizens, thanks to their dictatorship) is despicable, and the world should not stand by idly while atrocities occur. Where is the human rights outrage over NK?
a safer world and fairer treatment of all it's citizens
originally posted by: Indrasweb
So, when's he adding Saudi Arabia and isreal to that list?
And possibly the US and the UK whilst he's at it...
Guess it's one way to apply further pressure but to what ends? They don't respond to pressure (seemingly, not up to now anyway) and with what objective in mind? What is he hoping will happen as a result of this? That they'll suddenly give up their nuclear ambitions?
I dunno, I fail to see what this is supposed to achieve...
"In addition to threatening the world by nuclear devastation, North Korea has repeatedly supported acts of international terrorism including assassinations on foreign soil,"