Spontaneous Human Combustion - Is it possible?, page 1
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Topic started on 12-2-2005 @ 12:08 PM by Zabilgy
Spontaneous Human Combustion is a phenomenon where a living person suddenly bursts into flames for no apparent reason. The first reported case was thought to have been in 1763. A Frenchman named Jonas Dupont published a collection of Spontaneous Human Combustion cases. The belief in SHC continued on well into the 1800's, Charles Dickens used SHC in his novel "Bleak House" to kill off a character. It was generally believed in the 1800's that SHC was caused by alcoholism. They believed that the accumulation of alcohol in the body tissues would dramatically increase the combustibility of the body. It was also thought that the body metabolized alcohol to produce hydrogen and other inflammable gases which were then stored in the body tissues. A spark produced by the body's own electricity would then ignite the body. However as more knowledge of the metabolism of the body was discovered this theory was soon dismissed as they discovered that you would die of alcoholic poisoning before you would get to the stage of being saturated with alcohol.The public interest in SHC lost all it's appeal until 1951 when the Reeser case became public knowledge.


On July 2nd 1951 remains were found of a 67 year old widower named Mary Reeser. Her burnt smouldering remains were found by her Neighbor and some house painters. She had been sitting in an easy chair when the incident happened. Her left foot still wearing a slipper remained intact and only the corner of the room and the chair she was sitting in had been burnt. Firemen, police and pathologists examined Mrs. Reeser's remains and also found her liver which was fused to a lump of vertebrae and her skull which had been shrunk to the size of a baseball by the unusually intense heat.

The the walls of the apartment were covered with a greasy substance, plastic switches had melted along with two candles which the wicks had been left unburnt. There was only a small circular burn area which encompassed the remains of Mrs. Reeser and her chair. For such a cremation experts say that a temperature of 2500 degrees is necessary. A cigarette accidently dropped whilst asleep would never of caused such heat. The true cause of the burning death of Mrs. Reeser is still unknown. She is the most famous case of Spontaneous Human Combustion.


The following facts are common to all SHC cases:

- Eighty percent of the victims are female

- Most of the victims were overweight and/or alcoholics

- The body is very badly burned, but the room the body was found in is pretty much intact except for a fine layer of soot

- A yellow, foul smelling oil is usually surrounding the body

- The torso, including the chest, abdomen and hips tend to be totally consumed, sparing portions of the extremities and the head - the clothing can also be intact

- The victim was always on their own - no shouts or screams could ever be heard

- The victim had usually been drinking heavily prior to the death.

Other cases can be found at:
paranormal.about.com...

I know there's been a debate for a long time as to whether there is such a thing as spontaneous human combustion. I believe it is unlikely to be true and these strange incidents can be explained in some other way. I'm curious as to what opinions others have as to what really happened to these victims.


reply posted on 15-2-2005 @ 12:15 PM by Zabilgy
This is from: www.askmen.com...


A decisive experiment was attempted at the California Criminalistic Institute. Dr. John de Haan wrapped a dead pig in a blanket and sprinkled some gasoline over it. After ignition, the animal burned for five hours and its bones were destroyed. Haan chose to use a pig for this experiment because its fat content closely resembles that of humans.

The results? It demonstrated the aforementioned wick-effect, which explains why a person can slowly burn internally without attracting witnesses. It also explained why only the parts of the body that are high in fat content would be set ablaze, while other parts, like feet, remained intact.

After revisiting past alleged cases, researchers discovered that the victims were almost all elderly, and had the bad habit of smoking in bed. Sometimes murder was suspected, but mostly they were accidents in which the victims failed to wake up, having been under the influence of sleeping pills, alcohol or narcotics.



This attempts to explain away all the cases of potential SHC, but seems to forget the issue that these people were not on fire for 5 hours....some firefighters estimated lengths of time of some of the fires at or around only 20 minutes.....and the temperature necessary to burn the bodies as they were burned is estimated at around 3000 degrees fahrenheit (much hotter than used in a cremation)....which caused the bones to turn to dust, which someone mentioned earlier is pretty tough to do......and these potential SHC fires were not intiated with gasoline....
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