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The lobbying firms the Podesta Group and Mercury Public Affairs are the unnamed companies in the grand jury indictment of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, according to three sources with knowledge of the investigation.
The indictment, unsealed Monday, refers to "Company A" and "Company B" as the firms Manafort and Gates solicited in 2012 to lobby on behalf of the Ukranian government. Company A is Mercury Public Affairs and Company B is the Podesta Group, the sources said.
Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department in April stating that it had done work for the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine that also benefited the same Ukrainian political party that Manafort once advised. Podesta Group said at the time it believed its client was a European think tank untethered to a political party.
November 2012, GATES wrote to Company A and Company that the terms needed to prepare
an assessment of their past and prospective lobbying efforts so the President could be briefed by
Paul on what Ukraine has done well and what it can do better as we move into 2013
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler
Been reading up on this issue, and one things sticks out to me.
In the indictment, the term "president" is in quotes.
I'd have to see a lot more context to know what was being relayed in that message and how the recipients interpreted that.
Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych (born 9 July 1950) is a Ukrainian politician who was elected as the fourth President of Ukraine on February 7, 2010
22. At the direction of MANAFORT and GATES, Company A and Company B engaged in
extensive lobbying. Among other things, they lobbied multiple Members of Congress and their
staffs about Ukraine sanctions, the validity of Ukraine elections, and the propriety of
Yanukovych?s imprisoning his presidential rival, Yulia Tymoshenko (who had served as Ukraine
President prior to Yanukovych). MANAFORT and GATES also lobbied in connection with the
roll out of a report concerning the Tymoshenko trial commissioned by the Government of Ukraine.
MANAFORT and GATES used one of their offshore accounts to funnel $4 million to pay secretly
for the report.
The whole indictment previous to that in that section is talking about yanukovych and the party of regions, and the government of the Ukraine.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler
The whole indictment previous to that in that section is talking about yanukovych and the party of regions, and the government of the Ukraine.
True, but that is not indicative of what was being told to the "companies". It appears only Company A was specifically told they were going to work for the Ukrainian government. The section of talking points given to Company B was also interesting. The only red flag they thought to mention was that their email communications would indicate much more involvement by Manafort and Gates.
They were not concerned that the point of working for a NGO would be an issue... if it was a lie.
Perhaps they truly thought they were working for a non-profit NGO.
That is why I would like to see the entire communication to get better context.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
This morning I saw one where Tony resigned his post over this.
They were told by Gates that there info was going straight to the president (Yanukovych).
Come on now be honest, if this was a trump group working for a russian source, you would say that this is damning.
Muellers indictment of gates and manafort today shows that the Podesta group lied. Mueller has an email showing that Gates told the Podesta group that there work was going straight to the pro russian president of the Ukraine.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler
Muellers indictment of gates and manafort today shows that the Podesta group lied. Mueller has an email showing that Gates told the Podesta group that there work was going straight to the pro russian president of the Ukraine.
That is not what it says.
It only mentions the term president in quotations.
The indictment does not show any more context than that.
What you should be saying is that you are taking what the indictment says and extrapolating what you believe it means, without the entire context or communication at hand.
Unbelievable.
This has to be the most desperate attempt at dismissal that I have ever seen.
The word "Paul" is also in quotes. Does that mean we dont know what "Paul" that is reffering to?
Are you at least willing to admit that there is a better than not chance that the president being referred to is yanukovych?
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: introvert
In the context of the indictment, who are all the people that could possibly be referred to by the term, "president?"