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originally posted by: Liquesence
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: RomeByFire
You're right.
We should do nothing.
That's alright, America's number 1 in mass shootings in the world! America! America!
Can you please explain to me how the method of murder/death is at all relevant?
I think the point is that, for instance, one cannot kill 60 people at a concert below from the 32 floor of a hotel with say, a knife, or a sword, or a shotgun, or...
Just to be clear, I am not advocating for the ban of anything.
But in Nice France you can mow down 85 people with a box truck. In NYC you can kill 3000 by hijacking a plane. In fact, in the latter....the resulting laws have not made life any safer for us. They have only eroded liberty, with the majority of folks regretting allowing it to happen in the first place.
At the end of it all, the biggest victim of a bullet are veterans. And the perpetrators are veterans. Their suicides make up 43% of our gun related deaths.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: angeldoll
Ask them what? How theyd rather see their loved ones die? Theyre dead. What does methodology matter?
They want their lives to have some greater meaning and they want to be remembered for something great (and terrible) instead of fading obscurely into history, so they do something horrific.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
They have only eroded liberty, with the majority of folks regretting allowing it to happen in the first place.
originally posted by: SudoNim
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
They have only eroded liberty, with the majority of folks regretting allowing it to happen in the first place.
Do you have a source for this?
More than 80 percent of respondents are “concerned” that the government is “collecting and storing Americans’ personal information,” while 18 percent are not. A similar percentage said they were “concerned” by “the government accessing personal communications, information or records without a judge’s permission” and “using that information for things other than stopping terrorist attacks.”
“The poll results tell us that in order to be more reflective of the public’s views on surveillance and the Patriot Act, members of Congress should more fully support reforms,” says Neema Singh Guliani, legislative counsel at the ACLU. “That’s consistent with whether they are trying to appeal to Democrats, Republicans or Independent voters.”
originally posted by: angeldoll
What does it matter? What does it matter?
Ignore the fact that scores of others died with them. I know you don't think this is okay. But you are making yourself sound like you think it's okay.
Also, why do you suppose they never have mass shootings in Canada?
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: angeldoll
What does it matter? What does it matter?
Ignore the fact that scores of others died with them. I know you don't think this is okay. But you are making yourself sound like you think it's okay.
Dead is dead. If i have my choices, I know I'd rather die quickly from a gunshot, than a bludgeoning. But in the end im dead, and the method to kill me has little impact on that fact. Dead is dead.
So again I ask...what does the method matter? Does it change anything?
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So you can say, with some degree of certainty, that if Paddock had not had access to these weapons he would have driven a truck through this crowd?
Also, why do you suppose they never have mass shootings in Canada?
originally posted by: angeldoll
So this is your response to my questions? He might have gotten a flame thrower if he didn't have his guns? A monster truck? He would not have had the protection of his hotel room and would have died much sooner for starters. Anyway, he didn't use a flame thrower or a monster truck, did he?
Dead is dead, the manner of dying makes no difference? Seriously?
You don't know why Canadians don't have mass murders?
All you have is an unwillingness to be honest about this subject.
originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I don 't think you are even being honest with yourself about this, much less on this board with me.
So never mind. Any fool can see what's going on. It's only a matter of letting the scales fall from one's eyes.
In due time. In due time.