Albert Pike Will Fall

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: eisegesis
How does this picture make you feel?

... Freemasons have vehemently denied that Pike had anything to do with the KKK.

Forget the statue. That's the past. Ask current Freemasons in, for example, Georgia, why they don't currently accept blacks and other races, like Chinese and Indians. Why not "tear down" the racist "lodges" that are currently operating, and secretly orchestrating all the racist activities in the nation?

That's the final solution.

Once you get rid of that problem, the statues won't matter.

There are still racists in the US and other areas of the world. Sad, but true. And some of them are Freemasons who don't fully grasp the message. Why not ignore the stupid one's and not give them any more of your time than you would the KKK? There are plenty of lodges around the world that DO understand what "on the level" means.

originally posted by: network dude
Why not ignore the stupid one's and not give them any more of your time than you would the KKK?

Because these Freemasons are also the Judges, Policemen, Politicians, and other "leading figures" in their respective environments, so we cannot just "ignore" them. What they practice "in secret" is reflected in what they do "in public" where we live.

a reply to: AMPTAH

but not all police and judges are Freemasons, and not all Freemason police and judges are racist. I guess I just fail to see your point. Not all people are of the same mindset. Some have vastly different ideas of what's acceptable and what's right.
I don't like racist ideals at all, but they exists with or without my consent.

If you look at what Freemasonry stands for, it's totally opposite of oppressive and racist.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AMPTAH

but not all police and judges are Freemasons, and not all Freemason police and judges are racist. I guess I just fail to see your point

The point is very simple.

The dead are gone and buried. They may have done terrible things in the past. But, they are no longer with us.

Tearing down their statues is purely symbolic.

It is more effective to tackle the real problem, in the living institutions, that are here and now, actively working to promote racist ideologies, than to focus on the past.

Of course, we know, that those statues are used by the present living to justify their ideologies, to rally others of similar mind to their cause, and to promote a "continuation" of the doctrines of racism that existed before, and maintain those doctrines in the present day. But, these statues are just "some" of the "symbols" they use to promote their art.

To get to the root of the problem, we must consider the biblical warning;

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- KJV, Ephesians 6:12

See? We are not battling statues. We are not just fighting our "flesh and blood" neighbors. We are fighting "organized institutions" that the bible calls "principalities", consisting of people in "high places", like the Judges, politicians, and police, who rule in "darkness" in "secret lodges", with no windows, so the cowans can't "peek in", performing "spiritual wickedness" they call "rituals" similar to the Church holy rituals but different at the same time, and these "statues" are just the "misdirection."

a reply to: AMPTAH

Ah, so we are back to fear of the unknown. If we don't have windows and let you see what we are doing, it must be evil.
Sorry, I though we were having a rational discussion. Carry on.

originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: eisegesis
Freemasonry is not using a hidden hand to instigate ethnic inequity.

Freemasonry is not using anything. It's just a bunch of principles, rules, constitutions, and "general frameworks."

Freemasonic Lodges, on the other hand, are the active instantiation of those rules, as interpreted by the particular members of the Lodge, and the Lodge does instigate ethnic inequity, using those same principles as "cover", and the evidence of this begins with the very "exclusion" of certain other ethnic groups from the particular Lodge itself.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AMPTAH

Ah, so we are back to fear of the unknown. If we don't have windows and let you see what we are doing, it must be evil.
Sorry, I though we were having a rational discussion. Carry on.

As Jesus said,

"Recognize what is in your sight, and that which is hidden from you will become plain to you . For there is nothing hidden which will not become manifest." -- The Gospel of Thomas #5

We don't need to see what's beyond in the windowless rooms. We can understand what is there, from looking around at the things we can see in our environment.

a reply to: AMPTAH
Do you not understand what Constitutional rights are?

originally posted by: KSigMason

Do you not understand what Constitutional rights are?

Duh. He's God, he understands everything.

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: AMPTAH
Do you not understand what Constitutional rights are?

Constitutional rights are words written in a document called a constitution, that attempt to grant to men particular rights that they were not born with naturally, and thus must be decided upon by men, declared openly by men, interpreted accordingly by men, and implemented by men when they decide to be just, and violated by men when they decide to be unjust, and are thus subject to the whims of men according to the occasion and the times.

a reply to: AMPTAH
This is not according to the Founding Fathers. Maybe do some research.