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Albert Pike Will Fall

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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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How does this picture make you feel?



More importantly, how do Freemasons feel knowing that it’s only a matter on time before Mr. Mason takes a nasty fall? I'd hate to see it happen, but boy am I curious how that would play out. Would Pike's demise be the straw that breaks the Masons' back?


Despite the fact that the KKK is one of the most rightfully vilified organizations in the world, there is a statue in Washington DC dedicated to Albert Pike. The statue stands on a pedestal near the foot of Capitol Hill, between the Department of Labor building and the Municipal Building, between 3rd and 4th Streets, on D Street, NW.

Pike was also an affluent Freemason, and many Freemasons have vehemently denied that Pike had anything to do with the KKK. However, research published by Walter L. Fleming in 1905 shows definitively that Pike was in fact the original founder of the KKK.

Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Growth and Disbandment

The two pages where Pikes names is mentioned:



The Tragic Era by Claude Bowers


In his book, The Tragic Era, Claude Bowers, who served many years as the U.S. ambassador to Spain and to Chile, described Albert Pike as one of the handful of distinguished, respectable founders of the KKK and the Klan's leader in Arkansas.

References: Link


files.abovetopsecret.com...

Notice the Hidden Hand?


Look familiar?




Born in Prussia on May 5, 1818, Karl Marx began exploring sociopolitical theories at university among the Young Hegelians. He became a journalist, and his socialist writings would get him expelled from Germany and France. In 1848, he published The Communist Manifesto with Friedrich Engels and was exiled to London, where he wrote the first volume of Das Kapital and lived the remainder of his life.

I have not attempted to verify everything in the link below, but it's worth including for research purposes. There are many more "proofs" that I haven't listed.

Proof That Freemasonry Is Lying About Albert Pike And The Ku Klux Klan

References:

The Crown in the Capitol
Essay by John Covici, January 19, 1993
Authentic History, Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan, It's Origins Growth and Disbandment
The Published Works of Illustrious Albert Pike 33
Knights of the Golden Circle Cherokee Indians
History and Evolution of Freemasonry
The Fiery Cross
The Tragic Era
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Deny Ignorance?


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posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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One of the best songs ever! Loved Fear!! From the Repo man soundtrack



posted on Aug, 15 2017 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis
Pictures like this demonstrate that ignorance was alive when it was taken and it is alive now.

They can attempt to tear it down, but it will never fall. In the end, it may be relocated, but it will never fall. If anything the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite would take the statue and locate it on their property.

Here are the facts of the statue:


The statue sits at 11-ft tall, is composed of bronze, and was sculpted by Gaetano Trentaove. Pike is presented in civilian dress as a Masonic leader, not as a General for the Confederate Army; this statue was not intended to commemorate Pike's short military career with the Confederacy, but to honor him for his service to the Scottish Rite and Freemasonry in general. In his left hand is holds a copy of his book, "Morals & Dogma." The statue sits atop a granite platform at the bottom of which sits a Greek goddess holding the banner of the Scottish Rite. Carved around the platform are the words: Author, Poet, Scholar, Soldier, Philanthropist, Philosopher, Jurist, and Orator. On the front of the platform bears the words "Vixit Laborum Ejus Super Stites Sunt Fructus" which means "He has lived. The fruits of his labors live after him."

The statue has drawn calls for its removal because of his position in the Confederate Army (not realizing there are Confederate statues maintained by the US government all over the US) and the asinine theory that Pike was a founder and officer of the Ku Klux Klan. Dr. Walter Lee Brown, an expert on Pike, has stated that there are no primary sources that support the accusations that Pike was ever involved with the Ku Klux Klan. Even from a Congressional investigation no reference to Pike ever came up when looking at the activities of the Ku Klux Klan during the Reconstruction Era. As the statue sits on Federal land, the National Park Service maintains the statue. On September 20, 1978, it was listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

SOURCE

It is no easy thing to get property removed from the National Registry: www.nps.gov...

Albert Pike was never in the KKK: freemasonry.bcy.ca...


Notice the Hidden Hand?

The "hidden hand" gesture is commonly found in portraiture during the 18th and 19th centuries. The pose appeared by the 1750s to indicate leadership in a calm and firm manner as well as the person's pedigree is of high class or status. The pose is commonly seen in photographs of members of the military, with a number of American Civil War photographs. The pose traces back to classical times — Aeschines, founder of a rhetoric school, suggested that speaking with an arm outside one's toga was bad manners.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:35 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Albert Pike holds no authority over my Obedience nor my Lodge.

However, I feel that using monuments, symbols, and white-shame as scapegoats in order to escape one's own responsibility of introspection and improving one's own character and conduct is childish and counterproductive.

John Jay was a Freemason, the first Chief Justice of the United States, and he worked to end slavery. Freemasonry is not using a hidden hand to instigate ethnic inequity.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis

As for Marx he was a vastly important commentator on the inequality's of Victorian Britain, a Britain that today's Tory's are intent upon re-creating as far as they can push it but he was not what he seemed to be.

Marx STOLE most of his ideas from other's such as French thinkers and philosophers and also from the Judeo/Christian faith's materials despite being a proponent of atheism.

Communism the false kingdom, the godless state in which people were automaton's with no soul owned by the state and the party was a direct if even more perverted outcome of his writing's.

But Socialism is actually the outcome of Victorian Christian reformist's and some moderate Marxist's inspired by his words and it was not originally a Godless or soulless doctrine but drew much of it's inspiration from passages made by Christ such as telling the young rich man to go sell all he owned, give it to the poor and to come and follow him - Jesus was in poverty and homeless as in his parable about the son of man having no were to lay his head, communism is about state but Jesus while most absolutely and definitely not a capitalist was about the kingdom of God were ALL are his children - except those that are the devil's children - and receive equally from god, the rain fall's on the just and the unjust, on the poor and the rich.

Albert Pike was not a Christian but rather a Luciferian (They blaspheme Christ regularly even on this site claiming he is Lucifer and trying to use historical Symantec's to justify there claim), he is one of the most influential mason's of all time, definitely not a good man at all but they revere him.

Was there a link, hidden hand, around the world to other's, was there a forerunner of today's NWO, I truly do not know but it is definitely possible, personally I believe Marx was more an outcome of the anarchists whom were themselves an outcome of the rolling back of the French Revolution during the Napoleonic age and afterwards and whom originated mainly in France.
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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: Sahabi
Albert Pike holds no authority over my Obedience nor my Lodge.


Same. The man is only relevant to the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite, who will probably end up taking the statue and placing it on their property.

Also, it has been demonstrated he was not in the Klan.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767

Albert Pike was not a Christian but rather a Luciferian (They blaspheme Christ regularly even on this site claiming he is Lucifer and trying to use historical Symantec's to justify there claim), he is one of the most influential mason's of all time, definitely not a good man at all but they revere him.

Was there a link, hidden hand, around the world to other's, was there a forerunner of today's NWO, I truly do not know but it is definitely possible, personally I believe Marx was more an outcome of the anarchists whom were themselves an outcome of the rolling back of the French Revolution during the Napoleonic age and afterwards and whom originated mainly in France.


Pike would smile at you, with that, aww, pat him on the head because he's "special", kind of look. It's always funny to see folks who don't know much at all, pretend they do.

Pike was making fun of people who believe in a mistranslation and attribute that to the lord of the underworld. Should you feel superior in this instance, I welcome you to exhaust all your resources proving your point.
albertpike.wordpress.com...



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 07:56 AM
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I just encountered this post on a Freemasonic social-media page:



It looks as though this tone of frenzied ignorance is spreading


Unhappy about the current state of affairs in your life? Let's blame antiquated scapegoats!!!!






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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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And this?


The FULL Pike letter, putting the quote below into context.

"I took my obligations to white men, not to negroes. When I have to accept negroes as brothers or leave Masonry, I shall leave it. - Albert Pike


Pg. 214, APPENDIX 12

Views of General ALBERT PIKE, Sovereign Grand Commander A. & A. Scottish Rite.

ALEXANDRIA, Va., 13th September, 1875.

MY DEAR FRIEND AND BROTHER.-I can see as plainly as you that the negro question is going to make trouble. There are plenty of regular negro Masons and negro lodges in South America and the West Indies, and our folks only stave off the question by saying that negro Masons here are clandestine. Prince Hall Lodge was as regular a Lodge as any lodge created by competent authority, and had a perfect right (as other lodge in Europe did) to establish other lodges, making itself a mother Lodge. That's the way the Berlin lodges, Three Globes and Royal York, became Grand Lodges.

The Grand Orient of Hayti is as regular as any other. So is the Grand Orient of the Dominican Republic, which, I dare say, has negroes in it and negro lodges under it.

Again, if the negro lodges are not regular, they can easily get regularized. If our Grand Lodges won't recognize negro lodges, they have the right to go elsewhere. The Grand Lodge can't say to eight or more Masons, black or white, we will not give you a charter because you are negroes, or because you wish to work the Scottish Rite, and you shall not go elsewhere to get one: That latter part is bosh.

Hamburg recognizes the Grand Lodges. Yes, and so the German Grand Lodge Confederation is going to do, and so will the Grand Orient of France before long.

Of course, if negrophily continues to be the religion established by law of your State, there will be before long somewhere a beginning of recognition of negro lodges. Then the Royal [Footnote to pg 214. - This was written before the Grand Orient had dispensed with the requirement of a belief in God.-w. h. u.]

Pg. 215

Arch and Templar bodies of negroes must be taken in, and Masonry go down to their level. Will your plan work? I think not. I think there is no middle ground between rigid exclusion of negroes or recognition and affiliation with the whole mass.

If they are not Masons, how protect them as such or at all? If they are Masons, how deny them affiliation or have two supreme powers in one jurisdiction.

I am not inclined to meddle in the matter. I took my obligations to white men, not to negroes. When I have to accept negroes as brothers or leave Masonry, I shall leave it.

I am interested to keep the Ancient and Accepted Rite uncontaminated, in our country at least, by the leprosy of negro association. Our Supreme Council can defend its jurisdiction, and it is the law-maker. There can not be a lawful body of that Rite in our jurisdiction unless it is created by us.

I am not so sure that, what with immensity of numbers, want of a purpose worth laboring for, general indifference to obligations, pitiful charity and large expenses, fuss, feathers and fandango, big temples and large debts, Masonry is become a great helpless, inert mass that will some day, before long, topple over, and go under. If you wish it should, I think you can hasten the catastrophe by urging a protectorate of the negroes. Better let the thing drift. Apres nous le deluge.

Truly, yours,

ALBERT PIKE

Ill. Comp. Josh D. CALDWELL.

Source: "Negro Masonry Being a Critical Examination of Objections to the Legitimacy of the Masonry Existing Among the Negroes of America". William H. Upton: The MW Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Massachusetts, 1902

Is the letter fake or taken out of context?

Was Daniel Carver a Freemason?

- At 1:50, he claims to be.

Then we have:

The Pyramid Texts, Volume IV, Pg. 27

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Black America was therefore present at its own creation. It was not only present, it was present and acting - it helped to make itself and we must never lose sight of that fact. And while just last week America celebrated it 213th year as a nation, Prince Hall Freemasonry celebrated its 214th year of existence.

And so this separation is reflected in American Masonic history and while we of the Prince Hall Craft are well aware of mainstream Masonic history and your men of mark, you have very little knowledge of their true anti-Masonic nature. Let me explain.

Jerry Marsengill noted is his preface to my book and I quote: “While editing the book, I found myself offended at some of the statements and some of the quotations. I was especially disturbed when Louis Block, one of my Masonic heroes, was quoted as saying, in effect, that Negroes were not mentally or morally qualified to be Freemasons. When I looked up the reference I was even more disturb; at BlockÖ”

Some years ago I wrote an article for the Phylaxis Magazine which was titled “Regular Freemasonry and the Ku Klux Klan” where I traced the history of Klansman Albert Pike and the role of the Supreme Council, Southern Jurisdiction, which wrongly calls itself the Mother Supreme Council of the world, and its involvement with the anti-Black, anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-American Klan.

Many were shocked by my article and I can remember while doing research for it, I found a book on Pike in the library of congress, and in it the author wrote that it could not be true that Pike had any role in the Klan, yet the facts were there for anyone who wanted to take the time to do the necessary research. And so we have Albert Pike not only buried in Washington, D.C., in the house of the Temple and there is also a statue of him on one of the streets in this predominately black city, which whites call “Washington," and blacks call D.C. and the black kids call “Chocolate City.”

Our muse of history would surely drop her head in shame and so should Freemasonry. For history demands the truth! In a word Pike comes with blood on his apron!

American Masons (not all), from a prominent standpoint, were very intolerant when it came to accepting "negros" into their lodges. They were told to go elsewhere if they were looking for Brotherhood (a more "fitting" lodge).

Just laying it all out there to be dissected.


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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Get your facts straight boy the shining one was Satan were as Christ was the Great light shining unto the people living in darkness, Lucifer styled himself as God but Jesus IS god the REAL light of the world.

Your Hero pike was actually nothing but scum and I doubt very much he could reach my head, I would also have likely ripped his arm off at the socket had he tried too.

I am not a black guy pal, I just do not like scum and think if anyone here is challenged it is the likes of yourself for thinking he was a hero and a great thinker with his new world order and one world government ideal's, the man was patiently evil AND he was not revered by ALL mason's no matter what some other members may suggest, he was a very strong confederate believer also and a traitor to your own nation, do you not understand all Enemy's foreign and domestic, pike was a domestic enemy, today he would be called a domestic terrorist in all likelihood and the civil war an act of domestic terrorism.

Also remember kindly would you that many of those men on both side's were not born in the US but were immigrant's fighting for the part of the US they had settled, sheep herded to there deaths' by the likes of Pike and sadly his ilk still exist today but here is a fact, his ilk LOSE, why because there master Lucifer has lost and will never be king of heaven and can never be God.

You know a lantern fish with it's bio luminescent snare, that is Lucifer, he snared a third of the angel's of heaven or did he, did god simply know what they really were so let him round them up and be done with them in one go.

I would dearly love to see Albert Pike in a room with Thomas De Torquemada, neither was a good or saintly man but Thomas would be far kinder to him than God will be.


You think because you have had a blind fold on and gone through a mockery of the death and resurrection that it makes you special, poor special boy.

Let's just say I renounced a certain oath I made in error thinking I was serving God by swearing it in his name without realizing the blasphemy involved, My God is the real one not the false light, not Lucifer.

Oh and do try to be a good boy and remember your scripture's you never know when you may need some real direction in life.

Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead.

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posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Pike, his writings, and his views have absolutely nothing to do with my Obedience, and are not representative of Freemasonry throughout the rest of the world. His influence was specifically limited to the Scottish Rite's Southern Jurisdiction of the United States.

To support racial and gender equity, I decided to join a Freemasonic Obedience that has been openly inclusive of all races, ethnicities, as well as women, since their founding in 1893. L.D.H. is a direct offshoot of Continental Grand Orient Freemasonry, which has been in existence just as long as U.G.L.E. and U.S. Grand Lodge Freemasonry.

Racism has no bearing on my Freemasonry.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Sahabi

Your form of Masonry I respect.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
Albert Pike was not a Christian but rather a Luciferian (They blaspheme Christ regularly even on this site claiming he is Lucifer and trying to use historical Symantec's to justify there claim), he is one of the most influential mason's of all time, definitely not a good man at all but they revere him.

1) He was a Christian; an Episcopalian.

2) He was a influential Mason, not the only one. There are many who were just as influential if not more in regards to Freemasonry, not just the Scottish Rite.

a reply to: LABTECH767
I feel sorry for people like you.



posted on Aug, 16 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: KSigMason

No feel sorry for yourself because he was not a christian in any sense of the word, his denomination does not show he was a Christian merely that he was a member of a denomination that is mostly christian like all denomination's of Christianity.
I may have offended your sensibility's but those that worship pike as a messianic figure definitely offend the real messiah.

The Aryan's were a Eurasian group that actually have very little to do with European's and you may also take into account that despite there Hunnic (Probably Mongolian nomad's) ancestry this included both the German's and the Hungarian's as they too are probably not of Aryan ancestry despite belief in this which was prevalent before genetic analysis became available though the Aryan's are probably the ancestors of a lot of Indians, Pakistani's and people's of the Hindu Kush region's (the link with many European languages to the languages of India are actually Pre-Aryan since the Aryan probably invaded India after these groups had diverged and carried there linguistic legacy west.

The Fiery cross despite old Fenleddi was not a christian symbol at all, in fact as well as Pagan it has also strong anti christian origin.
I could go on and on and on and point out his definite link's to the most perverted and corrupted branch of masonry, which most mason's do not accept and rightly so that of the KKK and it's lodges.

You actually think that was a great man, the shame is your's.

How much more of his theory's if dissected would show them to be utterly wrong or wildly off the mark, most likely all of them.

Anyway those that so ascribe themselve to this man should be ashamed, he disgraced good mason's and I do believe they do exist, merely by association.

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posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 01:18 AM
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Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but you are not the standard by which one is determined to be a Christian.

We Masons do not worship him in any messianic way. Non-Masons and anti-Masons alike seem to exaggerate his importance. There are many more men who were influential, if not more, than Pike such as Thomas Smith-Webb, William Preston, and Harold Van Buren Voorhis.

The KKK is not Freemasonry in any sense: freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/kkk.html

Here are two quotes from a Scottish Rite Mason that I respect:


As a man, Pike had personal failings (don't we all?), but he was also a man who abandoned his mistaken notions when he came upon better information and matured.

Just because Albert Pike was a brilliant ritualist, an able administrator, and a well-respected Mason doesn't mean all of his opinions are right.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 01:42 AM
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I have his book containing a death threat if you find me ...I remain calm.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: KSigMason

Look I am NOT a professional mason Basher, I vehemently and foaming at the mouth do not agree with the interpretation of Lucifer many of you adhere to but that is a matter of belief and personal freedom so on that you believe as you shall and I shall believe as I do.

I am not going to argue anymore as I have made my opinion of this now long dead man perfectly clear and I have to concur on this point "I do not set the standards for what is Christian" only Christ does that and hey I may get my eye wiped and meet my lord in one of those horrid frock's you all wear but I very much doubt it.

Now you have not burst my bubble at all and the web site you linked has a number of opposite numbers offering equally valid evidence in the other direction which I would not link and yes most of those are vehemently anti masonic so maybe just a tad bit biased on that point and as for the KKK even if they are not accepted and maybe NEVER were as a form of masonry, a twisted and perverted form they are still based upon it and have many members whom are members of both the KKK and the mainstream mason's, of course they have a grad dragon and you have a grand master'(S), indeed many KKK event's most probably happened inside masonic lodges in the US when the bulk of there members were also KKK which I am certain has been the case on some small town's in certain area's in the past.

AND Well pointed out, we all have failing's, the judge of judges - you know Christ once said remove the plank from your own eye first but do any of us really follow that in our day to day lives and if we did could we even survive in this world full of lunatic's were every action is an act of judgment.

So I disagree with your brotherhood'(S) on a number of point's (BUT do agree on some point's which are universal truth's if not always there definition's and I do not believe Masonry is as old as many of you do, mason's guild's such as the cathedral builders of Germany which may have given rise to the Mason's in Europe after gaining royal patronage during medieval time's yes 900ad to 1100ad and up to today) but like I say I am most definitely not a MASON hunter, in fact there have been a very great number of decent men whom were Mason's and probably are a great number of decent men whom are today but by my religious belief's and I think you will find this is a universally accepted point, if it is not of God it is in vain.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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I know a guy whom is a member of the others and once gave a certain group a nasty fright when they made the mistake of crossing him, let's say that ended pretty quickly with them backing off, turned out his seal was more powerful, his group are from Spain.
But let's not get off subject, I am finished with this thread anyway.



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

OK PAL, all you need to do is bring some verified historical backup and you won't look like you just won the Tool of the year award. If you can't, then congrats, your statue is waiting and your acceptance speech is highly anticipated.

Having been a mason for a while, and having been involved with the masonic conspiracy for a longer while, I was and am able to see all the information that has been presented in this case, and while you sound like you have conviction, stupidity masked as conviction is what you really have here. Again, I encourage you to bring some facts to back up your fear of the devil and Pike.

While I happen to be a member of the Scottish Rite in the Southern Jurisdiction, I don't consider Pike my hero, or some form of deity, he was a man who devoted much of his time and knowledge to a group he loved. I am defending his memory against extreme stupidity and lies.

You have hate, I have facts, in the real world, both are not equal. Again, congrats on the award.

www.masonicinfo.com...

www.masonicworld.com...

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 17 2017 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
How does this picture make you feel?

... Freemasons have vehemently denied that Pike had anything to do with the KKK.


Forget the statue. That's the past. Ask current Freemasons in, for example, Georgia, why they don't currently accept blacks and other races, like Chinese and Indians. Why not "tear down" the racist "lodges" that are currently operating, and secretly orchestrating all the racist activities in the nation?

That's the final solution.

Once you get rid of that problem, the statues won't matter.




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