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Donald Trump's lawyers investigating special counsel Robert Mueller's team

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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 03:41 AM
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Donald Trump’s legal team is looking for conflicts of interest among members of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigative team, people with knowledge of the matter said on Thursday.

The revelations come as Mueller’s investigation appears likely to investigate some of the president’s family’s business ties. Attorney Jay Sekulow, a member of the president’s external legal team, told the Associated Press that the lawyers “will consistently evaluate the issue of conflicts and raise them in the appropriate venue”.

Two people with knowledge of that process say those efforts include exploring the political affiliations of Mueller’s investigators and their work history.

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The president himself has publicly challenged Mueller, declaring this week that the former FBI director would be crossing a line if he investigated the president’s personal business ties.

Late on Thursday, the highest-ranking Democrat on the US Senate intelligence committee said reports that Trump was contemplating a pardon for aides that could be implicated in Mueller’s probe were “extremely disturbing”.

Senator Mark Warner was referring to a Washington Post article saying that Trump was consulting with advisers “about his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself”.


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A part from smelling ike a desperate seige mentality,
it seems that Trump Senior knows this is going to be very bad for Team Trump.

But that's OK, he's Potus, he can dish out 'get out of jail cards', at will, to the eventual guilty parties.
Even *himself supposedly !

*How can that even be possible, is it legal ?
Is the Potus above the law, untouchable ?
He, the Potus, can pardon himself for wrongdoings ?



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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 03:56 AM
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If the Special Counsel has nothing to hide then what is the problem?
All of their team should have their entire lives investigated to find out if they ever did anything wrong.




posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 04:19 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

That would lead to even more accusations
that Trump senior is meddling and obstructing Justice !

Let him do so,
let him continue tarnishing the image of the role of Potus ...

The more salient point is that Trump Senior
is already envisaging giving out pardons,
to people who would have been found guilty,
of whatever crimes and misdemeanors the investigations throw up

Given the context of these investigations,
the potential crimes and misdemeanors are very serious indeed.

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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 04:28 AM
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originally posted by: Damiel
a reply to: UKTruth


let him continue tarnishing the image of the role of Potus ...



It can't be any more tarnished than it was when he got it....


This whole thing is a ridiculous side show, on all sides.


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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 04:52 AM
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a reply to: Damiel

When the special counsel hires lawyers who supported Clinton there is a real concern of conflict of interest. The conflict of interest clause for the DOJ applies to the special counsel. The special counsel is also delving into areas that arent covered by his mandate - namely russia related issues. The business issues, if wrong doing is discovered, is outside te statute of limitations and cant be prosecuted anyways, let alone being outside the mandate.

One has to question the motive behind that.

I also want to know why no special counsel has ben assigned for Clinton, Obama, Lynch, Powell, Holder etc etc etc.
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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:03 AM
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Marc Corallo resigned yesterday,
perhaps he's had enough of trying to cover Trump senior's A$$
Could be that the investigations don't seem to be that ridiculous to him !

Such far-ranging investigations, wow !
Possible collusion with a foreign government to 'fix' the US elections,
lying to federal investigators
maybe even a bit of tax fraud for good measure ...

Or perhaps you Trumpeteers would prefer that Trump Senior
fires Rosentstien as well as Mueller and Sessions, just to wipe the slate clean

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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:23 AM
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a reply to: Damiel

Cite for us the federal statute of collusion please.
Please show us how he colluded to "fix" the election.
Tax fraud is outside the purview of the special counsel.
Who lied to investigators?

If Trump wants to wipe the slate clean he can just issue pardons to everyone and end this bs right then and there.

Turn off MSNBC and use your brain.
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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:34 AM
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This is a rabbit hole some may never come out of .Muller and others of his type has the rope to hang themselves and so they are battling for their lives . I was curious as to what the deal was to begin with .Comey got his special counsel but for what purpose ? He had to of had a motive ...What was the motive ? ... How are they going to get the horse ahead of the cart now ?



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:38 AM
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Bloomberg News reports that Mueller is scrutinizing some of Trump’s business dealings, including with a Russian oligarch who purchased a Palm Beach mansion from Trump for $95 million in 2008.

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“This is Ken Starr times 1,000,” said one lawyer involved in the case, referring to the independent counsel who oversaw an investigation that eventually led to House impeachment proceedings against President Bill Clinton.

“Of course, it’s going to go into his finances.”

Following Trump’s decision to fire FBI Director James B. Comey — in part because of his displeasure with the FBI’s Russia investigation — Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein appointed Mueller as special counsel in a written order.

That order gave Mueller broad authority to investigate links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign, as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation” and any crimes committed in response to the investigation, such as perjury or obstruction of justice.


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Given nature of the supposed shenanigans of the Trump Team
Mueller can make the investigation as wide
and as encompassing as more things come to like

Such as Jared's late filings a few weeks back,
that seemingly embroiled Trump the Younger

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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:38 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

My guess is Comey figured he was more believable than Trump. I think the plan Comey had has blown up in his face, along with the Democrats faces.



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:39 AM
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a reply to: Damiel

Actually no Mueller cant. Read the mandate before spreading false information would you please.



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

You have a problem with this, really ?


Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein appointed Mueller as special counsel in a written order.

That order gave Mueller broad authority to investigate links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign, as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation” and any crimes committed in response to the investigation, such as perjury or obstruction of justice


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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Damiel

Actually no Mueller cant. Read the mandate before spreading false information would you please.


You should know by now that not reading and instead fantasising and spreading gossip and false information is the standard for those still not able to accept the result in November 2016. That is not going to change.



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Damiel

You have a problem with the actual mandate issued by the AG?

Rod Rosenstein's Letter Appointing Mueller Special Counsel ***PDF LINK***





28 CFR 600.4 - jurisdiction

§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

NOT INCLUDED
(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

NOT INCLUDED
(c)Civil and administrative jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel determines that administrative remedies, civil sanctions or other governmental action outside the criminal justice system might be appropriate, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General with respect to the appropriate component to take any necessary action. A Special Counsel shall not have civil or administrative authority unless specifically granted such jurisdiction by the Attorney General.


Please, explain to us how something financial from 2008 even comes close to what Comey was investigating?

What part is confusing you and others on the left about how this works? Notice how it specified section (a) - ORIGINAL JURISDICTION only.
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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Damiel

Actually no Mueller cant. Read the mandate before spreading false information would you please.


You should know by now that not reading and instead fantasising and spreading gossip and false information is the standard for those still not able to accept the result in November 2016. That is not going to change.


Of course but I refuse to let them spread their crap unchallenged.


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posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: Damiel

Try again and maybe understand what you are reading. It authorizes anything related to what Comey confirmed in his testimony to Congress.

Read the jurisdiction portion i pointed out that you apparently ignored or dont understand.

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since you cant seem to quote from the actual letter,or the complete jurisdiction, here it is... again.

Rod Rosenstein's Letter Appointing Mueller Special Counsel ***PDF LINK***





28 CFR 600.4 - jurisdiction

§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.


Let us know whats tripping you up so we can explain it.
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edit on Fri Jul 21 2017 by DontTreadOnMe because: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

My thinking is that Comey's testimony is a mess to unravel in a coherent way to be able to move forward .That is why I said them trying to get the horse ahead of the cart is the real problem they face . I guess they thought having 15 lawyers all pulling for the same team was the only possible way out of it . I still cant imagine them getting away with a witch hunt at this point .



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Completely possible and most likely true. However I don't remember Comey ever saying anything about Trumps 2008 business dealings in his testimony to Congress. I do remember several people, including members of the Intelligence committee and several former Obama officials saying Trump was not the target of the investigation. Comey even confirmed that he told Trump he was not under investigation.



posted on Jul, 21 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Sounds silly but they wouldn't be stupid enough to bring "the wire tapping" evidence into the investigation would they :>)




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